Discussion Where in Impel Down would you throw them?

[SharpKnives]

I don't see ussop being level 4 material at all.... Sanji would be fine there and zoro due to his bounty would probably fit level 5 better (he also probably has the strength to justify being there). I don't think ussop has the sheer physical capacity to justify anything past level 1....

Zoro is not anywhere near level 5 material stop the wanking plz. Usopp is the son of Yasopp and sogeking the guy that sniped people from so far away at enis Lobby. Obvious level 4.

Zoro is nothing more than the swordsman of a rookie ship. Unless you count defeating 100 bounty hunters as legendary status.

 

[Poneglyph420]

Usopp, sanji and Zoro level 4. Luffy level 5. nami level 2 and robin level 3. Arlong level 4. kreig level 2. Crocus level 6. Enel depending on what he does level 6. Lucci level 5.

I totally can see Zoro and Sanji on Level 4, but Usopp.. Level 1 IF he wasn't just sent to a less prominent prison.. Like the G3 prison or something... Nami also IMO could be on Level 1 or 2, depending how much she lets on... But Robin would be Level 6 material for being the last of Ohara.

I'd rather execute prisoners ASAP. Prisoners aren't a threat when they're dead and executing them would serve as a warning to other pirates, which is similar to how how pirates in real-life are routinely dealt with.

I tend to agree on a rational level, but if it that was the case...
Everytime my nephew read OP.. he'd be bawling his eyes out..
Just doesn't fit the "tone" of OP... but I've thought this a thousand times through the manga......

Zoro is not anywhere near level 5 material stop the wanking plz. Usopp is the son of Yasopp and sogeking the guy that sniped people from so far away at enis Lobby. Obvious level 4.

Zoro is nothing more than the swordsman of a rookie ship. Unless you count defeating 100 bounty hunters as legendary status.

What's wanking??? Is that when you speak about a relatively powerless character like he's the strongest character...

 

[kkck]

Zoro is not anywhere near level 5 material stop the wanking plz. Usopp is the son of Yasopp and sogeking the guy that sniped people from so far away at enis Lobby. Obvious level 4.

Zoro is nothing more than the swordsman of a rookie ship. Unless you count defeating 100 bounty hunters as legendary status.

Zoro is one of the supernova and does have the bounty to be sent to level 5 though. I agree in that he might not be the strongest prisoner there but I don't see how anything less than that would work. Also, look at how well daz was handling level 4. He was abrely faced by the whole place, he barely seemed tortured. Zoro has grown significantly stronger since his fight with daz considering his newfound metal cutting ability since the fight and azura (which would put him quite a bit above daz IMO). IMHO zoro is clearly level 5 material, even if not the strongest dude there.

Being the son of yassop is not enough to make ussop level 4 material. Just being there for a while would probably kill him. Take kabuto away and ussop is probably barely level 1 material. Even with his bounty ussop is in no way more than level 2 material.

 

[Franckie]

I tend to agree on a rational level, but if it that was the case...
Everytime my nephew read OP.. he'd be bawling his eyes out..
Just doesn't fit the "tone" of OP... but I've thought this a thousand times through the manga......

We've seen people being blown up, people getting skewered, people turned into "mummies", people being bathed in acid, people getting their insides crisped and entire islands being wiped out. One Piece doesn't have gore in every single chapter, but the manga is surprisingly violent.

 

[GomuGomu_Getsuga]

Smoker - level 6
Alvida - level 2
Vivi - level 6
Coby - level 3
Kuro - level 4
Bellamy - level 2
God - level 6
Wiper - level 5

 

[SharpKnives]

Zoro is one of the supernova and does have the bounty to be sent to level 5 though. I agree in that he might not be the strongest prisoner there but I don't see how anything less than that would work. Also, look at how well daz was handling level 4. He was abrely faced by the whole place, he barely seemed tortured. Zoro has grown significantly stronger since his fight with daz considering his newfound metal cutting ability since the fight and azura (which would put him quite a bit above daz IMO). IMHO zoro is clearly level 5 material, even if not the strongest dude there.

Being the son of yassop is not enough to make ussop level 4 material. Just being there for a while would probably kill him. Take kabuto away and ussop is probably barely level 1 material. Even with his bounty ussop is in no way more than level 2 material.

Taking away kabuto is way better than taking away zoro's swords. Taking away Usopp's weapon can't take away the lineage of his blood. In one piece logic whoever your parents are is how far you are expected to rise. Why do you think Luffy and ace are hidden. Just like Robin and Luffy usopp is a danger to the world simply by being born... well at least to the goverment.

Also im pretty sure a bounty limit is all just rumor. Your bounty doesn't make you worthy of level 5. The only reason I said Luffy would make it is because he's dragons son and processes kings haki. Im not saying that Zoro couldn't maybe take a few of the level 5 prisoners just that theirs no reason for him to be there. Your point with Daz is mute too because firstly he's made of steel no pun attended, secondly he's pretty fucking hardcore anyways. With out a weapon Usopp is still pretty dangerous. He still has his intuity or intuition. This all depends on how great Yassop is and if they could even figure this out. All im saying is that Usopp, Sanji and Zoro all have the chance to stand at the top but unlike sanji and Zoro... Usopp has the lineage to prove it. and to say he's hardly level1 material

 

[kkck]

I don't think smoker would be level 6. All he has going for him is that he is a logia. While that is a big deal among regular pirates and rookies, in the grand scheme of things smoker is kinda on the lacking side still. Give him sea stone cuffs and throw him into level 4 or 5 IMO.

Alvida is nothing even with her fruit. IMO she'd be level 1 at most. Kuro had a 17 mill bounty even when he was kinda famous.... I don't think he'd be more than level 2 material. Not sure about wiper... he is strong but I doubt he'd make it to level 5....

 

[SharpKnives]

My guess is you have to be strong to be level 6 or the torture would just kill you.

 

[El-Thor]

I don't think smoker would be level 6. All he has going for him is that he is a logia. While that is a big deal among regular pirates and rookies, in the grand scheme of things smoker is kinda on the lacking side still. Give him sea stone cuffs and throw him into level 4 or 5 IMO.

Smoker might be on level 6 just because of his knowledge of the Marines. He might know some secrets that they wouldn't want getting out . That's why Jimbei and Croc were there (apart from being strong).

I would put Hancock in Sadi Chans personal quarters.... for interrogation

 

[kkck]

What knowledge of the marines could smoker have? He is barely a mid ranked officer isn't he? I don't think he is aware of anything so vital he'd be sent all the way to level 6 just for that. Once he reaches rear admiral or vice admiral he'd probably be more in the loop....

 

[El-Thor]

What knowledge of the marines could smoker have? He is barely a mid ranked officer isn't he? I don't think he is aware of anything so vital he'd be sent all the way to level 6 just for that. Once he reaches rear admiral or vice admiral he'd probably be more in the loop....

For one, Smoker knows that the govn't covered up the events in Alabasta. If word were to get out about Croc's actions and the SHs saving the kingdom, trouble would start a brewin'.

Despite Smoker's rank, he is very smart and I'm sure he is knowledgeable about SOME of the secrets within the Ranks. In chapter 212 he also eludes that some Marines ranked "much higher than him" have as much power as him. So if knowing some Marine secrets isn't enough, he's also plenty strong

 

[Bugzee]

I would put Hancock in Sadi Chans personal quarters.... for interrogation

I agree. Great suggestion, El-Thor.

There's only two people worthy, badass and powerful enough of having their own prison "level" in Impel Down; those two individuals are 1) Monkey D. Dragon and 2) Enel.

Then again, it would've been amusing to see Enel & Croco-boy share one of those cage cells together lol. hahaha.

 

[Fox666]

I don't think that is entirely the case with level 6. IMO bounties and strength have a big part in the decision of putting them there, not just whether they want to keep the prisoners a secret or the prisoners have vital information of things. Take jimbei.... He had no special knowledge of anything, he was thrown into level 6 because he was a shichibukai and he was strong. I think people who are infamous enough are by default sent to level six while ordinary criminals or rookies would end up in levels 1-5. I don't think WB would be kept in level 5 at all, that'd be stupid IMO. WB is brutally strong, freezing temperatures probably won't face him and altogether probably can't even be contained in level 5.

Yes, I forget Crocodile Jinbei. Whitebears surely would be in Level 6.

My guess is you have to be strong to be level 6 or the torture would just kill you.

I think they do not torture to kill, but just to leave the prisoner inapt to escape.

Let's say, if Coby and Garp were in Level 6, their torture would not be the same. Garp torture would be 100x worse.

 

[ShiroPhoenix]

I would put that bastard in level 6 for what he done...
Shichibukai level 6
Dragon... Well, i would create a whole new level just for him Level 7 XD
Enel Level 5 or 6
Lucci level 5
Spandam Level 1 ( No... Even in level 1 he would die XD )

I have to agree with all of these except maybe lucci but the dragon thing is so true. Also people are really underestimating the characters in one piece, anyone from the shichibukai are an instant level 6 regardless of weapons or anything else, these are some of the strongest pirates in the world (of course nothing to yonkou but still). On the subject of roger you can't say that just because crocus was a doctor on his ship he wouldn't go to level 6, don't forget that the WG killed a bunch of babies just in case they were rogers. This is my opinion:

Yonkou: Dig deeper and make a level 7
Rayleigh: Level 6
Marco: Level 6 (Fought on par with all 3 admirals)
Ace: Level 6
Jozu: Level 6 ( Was fighting on equal ground with aokiji until distracted)
Vista: Level 6 (this is for all commanders up to 6 then the rest mabye level 5)
Ivankov: Level 6 (Impel down made a mistake with putting him in level 5, he literally turned it into a paradise)
Captain Kuro: Level 1
Mr.5: Level 1
Ussop: Level 3 (regardless of weapons has a high bounty and an incredible amount of endurance)
Wapol: Level 1 (can't eat kairoseki)

 

[kkck]

based on buggy, mr 3 and bon clay though, I don't think lower level prisoners are given kairoseki cuffs. I get the impression the levels themselves are made so that prisoners cannot escape even if they use their abilities. For instance, there is no way buggy could have escaped from the bulgori. Mr 3 would have been murdered by animals in his level even with his abilities apparently. Mr 2 did not have than an easy time in his level. I agree in that ivankov was underestimated though.

I don't think ussop will make it to level 3 though. Without his weapon his only skill is to take remarkable amounts of punishment. I think he'd get level 1 but he's got a chance in hell of getting up to level 2.

 

[beastboy]

You're doing it wrong, lvl6 is not a matter of power, is a matter of knowledge...
Its the eternel hell, the place meant for persons to waste there the rest of their lives, so that they can't say a thing to the outside world...
So a really strong person, stronger than WB himself, but that wasn't reknown and did not have any knowledge of the world, would be put in lvl 5...
The same as Robin would be insta lvl6 without any knowledge...
Ouka Shichibukais have knowledges about battle tech's that can't be sent back to the world, so they will be locked in eternel hell!

What I'm trying to say is that only until lvl 5 is a matter of power, after that is a matter of influence and knowledge...

So Luffy who is a STRONG ROOKIE that beat Crocodile, got sent to lvl5 while Crocodile himself was at lvl6!

 

[Renaan]

Lets be honest.... Luffy would never be left in Impel Down.

He'd be executed as soon as possible to show what happens to those who oppose the WG, specially him being Dragon's Son.... insta dead from the Admiral /whoever who caught him, rather than risk him escaping or being freed by his friends.

but I guess...

Luffy - Level 6, he'd be made to disappear
Zorro - Level 5
Robin - Level 6 - the conditions don't seem that harsh in 6, you pretty much seem to just sit there unless that guard comes in and beats you
Franky - Level 5 Minimum, after destroying VegaPunks Lab and all those world treasures, he's screwed :P
Sanji - Level 5 .... Heat Hell would be nothing to him, he would be good at avoiding blades, he's starved before. I guess the freezing hell would be where he goes as fitting.

 

[Turtle Pirate]

You're doing it wrong, lvl6 is not a matter of power, is a matter of knowledge...
Its the eternel hell, the place meant for persons to waste there the rest of their lives, so that they can't say a thing to the outside world...
So a really strong person, stronger than WB himself, but that wasn't reknown and did not have any knowledge of the world, would be put in lvl 5...
The same as Robin would be insta lvl6 without any knowledge...
Ouka Shichibukais have knowledges about battle tech's that can't be sent back to the world, so they will be locked in eternel hell!

What I'm trying to say is that only until lvl 5 is a matter of power, after that is a matter of influence and knowledge...

So Luffy who is a STRONG ROOKIE that beat Crocodile, got sent to lvl5 while Crocodile himself was at lvl6!

i think knowledge does play a role to what level they go to, but i think it's a part for all of the levels.

knowledge + power = strength

I'd say most people on level 6 are strong, that giant looks really dumb... i doubt he is that knowledgeable, can't really speak for the rest of the people blackbeard got out of the floor.

But there's a reason that he went to level 6 instead of 5.
He even made them fight each other to see who he'd set free to join his crew instead of giving them some test to see how much they knew.
He went to level six to find strong people for his crew, because level six is where the strongest people are, it's not a complicated system.
Luffy went to level 5 cause he's weak, level 6 people are beasts. Crocodile could be an insane beast if it wasn't so easy to hit him.
I think logia = automatically level 6

 

[Captain golddigger]

hmm my list
Luffy- level 6
zoro-level 5
sanji- level 5
black beard-level 6
robin-level 3
ussop-level 3
franky-level 4
whitebeard- level...you know what ...i don't even want this guy in my prison..shit!
nami/chopper- level 2
brook- level 1
kidd-level 6
killer- level 5
hawkin- hmm....there's something about this guy...i don't trust him one bit (builds a level 7) -level 7
shanks....-level 7
garp-....oh hell no....(builds a whole new prison for him) seriously...i think garp is a major powerhouse...

 

[Bowser]

Robin would automatically go Level 6, theres like no question about that. Shes deemed far too dangerous for WG anyway - but she'd probably get executed straightaway instead...

Sanji...4 or 5 I'd say. Zoro I'd say 5.

Does seastone limit ones power or just devil fruit power? I don't even know whether Garp would be able to be kept within haha