Seinen xxxHolic by CLAMP

Who is your favorite xxxHOLIC character?

  • Kimihiro Watanuki

    Votes: 13 28.9%
  • Yūko Ichihara

    Votes: 19 42.2%
  • Shizuka Dōmeki

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • Himawari Kunogi

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mokona Modoki

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Kohane Tsuyuri

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Maru and Moro

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Haruka Dōmeki (Shizuka's grandfather)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Mugetsu (Kudakitsune)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Zashiki-warashi

    Votes: 2 4.4%
  • Reed Clow

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.2%

  • Total voters
    45

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Re: xxxHolic 134 Discussion / Prediction Thread

I know it's been a while since 134 came out, but I have been re-reading the last few chapters while waiting for 135. A few things occurred to me while I read these again, and I had to put it out somewhere, so I am very glad I found the discussion thread! They could be very far-off, but here are my speculations:

I think someone made the observation that the butterfly is Yuuko? That is true, I think, but then what about the boy Haruka is talking about--or is it really just an example? I got the feeling, however, that Haruka is saying something more meaningful than a metaphor. I was thinking, perhaps Watanuki is that boy and he is (or is in) Yuuko's dream.

Watanuki would be, then, like Sakura: in the dream world as a soul with no body. This could have something to do with why he sees "youkai" as well as his wish. Perhaps he can see them because he is, or is like, one of them. Then the fulfillment of his wish would to get a "body," or becoming human, would it not? In this sense, Doumeki would play a key part in that; Watanuki receives part of his eye, his blood, etc, and as Kohane said, they are "merging." But in what way, I wonder? And to what end?

These speculations may have also been influenced by the "bell-client," a girl who didn't know she was a ghost--could Watanuki be like her? More than that, though, and more than Haruka's cryptic words in chapter 133, is chapter 132 that makes me particularly anxious. The world just sort of stops for Watanuki, and Doumeki and Himawari go on without him--absolutely without him. It is as if Watanuki had never been there at all; they aren't wearing the gloves he gave them, and Tanpopo isn't there.

From that point on, there is a strange seamlessness in the following chapters, with one moment scene flowing into the next without rhyme or reason--like a dream. Of course, the scene in 132 might have been some strange overlapping of "worlds," but then Yuuko reaches out to Watanuki, as he stands there. Yuuko says he fainted, but I find that somewhat hard to believe; one moment Watanuki is standing, and the next lying in bed. He is in bed a lot at Yuuko's shop, don't you think? I don't think I have seen his house once (I could be wrong, perhaps it is showed in earlier chapters).

In retrospect, xxxHolic has had the strange transitions between scenes quite often, in my opinion, but I tried not to let it bother me too much. It's really getting to me now, though, especially with the last two chapters. In 133 they are partying, and suddenly he is in a dream? I found that particularly strange.

In a sense, this reminds me of Kingdom Hearts II (spoilers for those who haven't played it, intend to play it, or haven't played it through!) and the parallel Twilight Town. Watanuki would be like Roxas, an incomplete being. Yuuko would be like Ansem, in a sense, creating a parallel "world" (the dream world) to kind of cultivate him in until he becomes whole. I am not the first one who made this observation, but in many ways xxxHolic and Tsubasa are like the KH-verse, what with all the multiple worlds and weird dreams and such.

This all could be, and quite likely is wild speculation all caused by the anxieties that hit me in chapter 132; the idea that Watanuki isn't really a part of Doumeki and Himawari's lives, that he is removable, frightens me. He is annoying as fuck, but I love him to bits! I will probably come to be entirely wrong with all this, but I can see how it might fit into xxxHolic's story.

Hurrah for crazy theories? This has turned out to be absolutely too long, but perhaps someone will read this and give me feedback :darn I don't want to think I am entirely crazy!
 
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xxxHolic 136 Discussion / Prediction Thread

The new chapter of xxxHOLIC is now available. You can find everything here.


Looks like a chapter looking to explain things to all who don't read Tsubasa Chronicles, a conversation between Sakura and Watanuki (thanks to Ashura_sama's translation for the spoilers). But we do get to know more about Watanuki plus it's a cute chapter so I guess that means no room for complaining.
 
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Re: xxxHolic 134 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Good speculation there amogme. It's very possible that your theory is correct.

Excuse me for this short response, but it's 4 am and I can't seem seem to think right so in short: I don't think that Watanuki is an incomplete being or just a soul. When he's in a dream world, I think it's because his soul alone goes into there leaving his body behind.

The reason I think that fainted had something to do with the decisions taken by the guys from TRC and Fei Wong. I think he has something to do with the horrible future Sakura is afraid of and by changing the future she is making him disappear along with it.

Then again this a wild speculation too, and you never know what Clamp might be thinking. And why do you say Watanuki is annoying, he's just not honest about his feelings :D
 

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Re: xxxHolic 134 Discussion / Prediction Thread

I like your theory better, because I don't want Watanuki to be incomplete, even if it means he and Doumeki are like, one. That and I like your theory better because it likely makes more sense--I wouldn't know, I Haven't read TRC since the first book! Which is really very silly of me, since I love CLAMP. So I honestly have no idea about the current TRC storyline, though I am certain it affects xxxHolic. Yours is not too wild, I think. I tend to look too much into things.

As for Watanuki, I didn't find him particularly annoying until I saw the xxxHolic movie, like seeing that in action. I'm not saying that he is annoying as a whole, but just his reactions. They are funny, sure, but think about actually having a friend like that. I mean, if I were Doumeki, I might slap him. Then love him to bits! Mu ha ha! It is his, er, lack of honesty that I find rather endearing, actually :tem
 
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Re: xxxHolic 136 Discussion / Prediction Thread

For those of us who do read TRC, the birthday thing is making my mind go in circles. Because after I read that, I remembered that Sakura gave Clone Syaoron her birthday when they were children because he didn't have one, so I said "Oh yeah... I forgot about that."

But then the more I thought about it, how does Sakura even remember that? She's supposed to have forgotten everything about the clone from that time of her life. So I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Dream World. Very curious...
 

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Re: xxxHolic 136 Discussion / Prediction Thread

But then the more I thought about it, how does Sakura even remember that? She's supposed to have forgotten everything about the clone from that time of her life. So I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Dream World. Very curious...
In an earlier volume of TRC, Sakura regained a memory of one of her birthdays. It was really sad since clone!Syaoran was missing from the memory!

Anyway...back on topic... I would just like to take a moment to say that I really liked this chapter because it shows how much Watanuki has grown since the beginning of the series. I love Watanuki! He's one of my top five favorite anime/manga characters of all time!
 
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Re: xxxHolic 136 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Just wondering when do we get the next chapter:huh
 

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Re: xxxHolic 136 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Thx didn't know it had been updated:p
 

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xxxHolic 137 Discussion / Prediction Thread

The latest chapter (137) is out!! Get it HERE!!!



After reading, go ahead and discuss the chapter here :amuse Oh, you can make predictions for the chapter 138 in here too :amuse


Happy discussing/predicting :)
 

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Re: xxxHolic 137 Discussion / Prediction Thread

ah finally! an xxxHolic chapter! have been waiting for this for a while! the gaps between chapter releases for this series is getting a bit ridiculous.. I sometimes don't remember what happened in the previous chapter and have to read back..

but this chapter didn't really give me any impact.. the plot at the moment seems to be revolving around Kohane-chan in the material world, and I'm not sure about the importance of Kohane-chan to the whole situation when I'm DYING to find out about Watanuki's connection to Tsubasa's plotline..

however, it did kinda made me wanna find out what happened to Kohane-chan, all wrapped up in bandages like that..
 

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Re: xxxHolic 137 Discussion / Prediction Thread

I agree. But we did get a clue on that all of Sakura, Syaoran and Watanuki's birthdays are on the 1st of april, which makes them somehow related.

poor Kohane, with that mother of hers, she can't stop going to televisions and people are starting to hate her. I wonder what the price the mother'll have to pay is O_O
 

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I agree. But we did get a clue on that all of Sakura, Syaoran and Watanuki's birthdays are on the 1st of april, which makes them somehow related.

poor Kohane, with that mother of hers, she can't stop going to televisions and people are starting to hate her. I wonder what the price the mother'll have to pay is O_O
Omg what you said reminded me of what Yuuko said in the first chapter of xxxHolic, about how even a chunk of soul could be posed as a price to pay.. Seeing that Kohane-chan's mother is making Kohane-chan go through so many sufferings (she's in bandages, for heaven's sake!) and not letting her do much of what she wants, I'd say a big piece of her soul would definitely fit as a price..

And the April 1st discovery wasn't so much of a big thing to me, because I've been keeping up with Tsubasa and xxxHolic and I noticed that Watanuki, Syaoran and Sakura must be somehow related ever since it was mentioned that Watanuki actually spells out April 1st.

However, it's Clamp, so I don't think I'll ever be disappointed. The only thing of Clamp that has put me off was the fact that they paired Subaru with Seishirou.. Not such a fan of yaoi.. And I like the TRC Seishirou! :(
 
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I just HOPE that clamp wont play a prank like April fool (he hehe) but may b Watanuki might related to Saoran somehow coz Shoran even make a payment for Watanuki as well.
Yeah poor Kohane chan T-T and hope the nxt chapter will be more details - -"
 

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xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

The latest chapter (138) is out!! Get it HERE!!!


After reading, go ahead and discuss the chapter here :amuse Oh, you can make predictions for the chapter 138 in here too :amuse


Happy discussing/predicting :)
 

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Re: xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Not much happened. We just get to see how poor Kohane lives nowadays with threat calls every day and how gloomy her life with her mom is. And the mother still doesn't understand anything at all, like she is one of the normal people >.<

I think next chapter her mother will be put to stop, at least I hope so. Watanuki will probably try telling her that Kohane is right, but she won't believe him and after that I can't think of anything really.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

her mom shocked :pwned,
 

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Re: xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Doumeki's interesting in this chapter. Very understated as usual. He gets tea from Kohane and pats her head--I think that's to prove that she's not a ghost. Then he gives Kohane's mom a look...


z.
 

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Re: xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

I don't really think it proves kohane-chan not being a ghost... doumeki can sense, see and feel ghosts quite good by now in my opinion... (don't know if you can pat a ghost on her head though...)
 

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Re: xxxHolic 138 Discussion / Prediction Thread

Hah.. I never thought of Kohane-chan being a ghost.. Always just as a medium..

Anyways, another short chapter! And yay for Doumeki! You just stay as the cool, I-don't-talk-much guy that you are! *much love~*

Evil mum, that woman!! She doesn't deserve to be called a mother!! I wonder what happened to the dad.. And it doesn't help that she gets the last panel as a close-up.. Made me hate her even more, the expression she was giving.. Poor Kohane-chan!!

Overall, this chapter gave me more impact than the previous one.. Maybe it was because I was a ta~d bit upset that Clamp wasn't gonna give anymore clues to the xxxHolic-Tsubasa relationship.. ><

Anyways, predictions: Well, can't really predict anything of Clamp.. They specialise in surprising their fans.. But! I do hope Kohane-chan's problem gets fixed.. And those threat calls! I think there's more to them than empty threats.. I hope they get to the bottom of that.. Why would anyone want Kohane-chan dead? They're entitled to hate her or think she's a lousy medium, but to want her dead? Why?

Ja~ ^^
 
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