Discussion Your Own Hatsu!

[Uriel]

For me I see it as too lenient. BUT to be honest all the Manipulation abilities seem to work as easy as that, so I wouldn't say you need to make a change.

Still, I've yet to see how a manipulation user as Shalnark or Illumi deals with other Nen users which is my main concern about your ability.

 

[Tame]

For me I see it as too lenient. BUT to be honest all the Manipulation abilities seem to work as easy as that, so I wouldn't say you need to make a change.

Still, I've yet to see how a manipulation user as Shalnark or Illumi deals with other Nen users which is my main concern about your ability.

You mean that their abilities aren't useful in direct combat? Well I suppose Shalnark only has avoid taking serious damage for long enough to get close and stick his antenna in, as he said when he fought that Chimera Ant. As for Illumi's pins can he do the same? I can't remember if his ability works on other nen users. But I agree; they're not as combat-oriented as other abilities.

As for this ability, it's even less combat-oriented; no opponent's gonna shake your hand before or during a battle. The only way it could potentially be useful in battle is if you have an Agent nearby whom you can activate and have fight alongside you. And that's not likely to happen often.

EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot to mention, but if I was in the Hunter x Hunter 'verse and I turned out to be a Manipulator and I chose this as my Hatsu, I'd put a restriction on it that it can't be used on women.

 

[Uriel]

Not exactly that...You see, the direct control of someone is kinda weird even in HxH world. It's not about the limitation on the objectives (Which is unneeded as I said, the technique woul work in the HxHverse without problems) but what it causes in the others.

Rephrasing:
Shalnark manipulates movement, not consciousness. Illumi manipulates everything, but the damage on the brain done can't be undone. The person affected loses his free will for ever.

In your case it's weird that their free will is paused and then back to normal as nothing. And some brain damage must be done or at least to not cause it a different trigger a bit more complicate. Am I being clear?

 

[Tame]

Ah, I see what you mean. Hmm, I'd cite Veze's ability then. Her ability makes the target her willing slave; that is, they obey her every command but retain consciousness and a degree of lucidity. Once the manipulation ends there is no permanent damage. This ability would be similar to that.

 

[heehoo10]

hello, first post here! I only read through the first like 5 pages and wanted to share my ideas!

i would really want to be transmutation but if i was materialization that would be cool too, i mean having any sort of nen would be kickass, lol
if transformation then i would make my aura like that of water/a fluid, then this would be my first technique

Hatsu: Transformation
Name: Mizukou
explanation: Can make "boxes of water" out of my aura and can use In to hide them from sight (but not gyo). Say a person was chasing you and you made one of these, when the person ran into it they would be slowed down considerably. They would not drown (but you will **see conditions), since it would just be aura, not actually water (NOT materialization), there would just be some confusion and slowness. Can also be used to block projectiles (physical and nen, since its made of nen) because of the increased drag coefficient, for example, if killua's yoyo were coming at me, i would create a water box, and it would "splash" (splash can be seen with gyo!) into the box and slow down and ultimately stop, depending on how viscous the water box i made was (viscosity is proportional to the amount of aura put in).
If gyo is used, i think it would look like in some of the levels in Kirby games there is floating water boxes.
Can also be used to swim in. If stuck at the bottom of a pit or something I would create very tall but slim box and swim upwards to get back up

Conditions: (since its not directly a combat ability, they arent that strict)
the box is immovable
will get less viscous the further away for you it is
You are the only one capable of drowning in it, therefore you gotta hold your breath like you would while normally swimming (this is to prevent creating a giant box around oneself and being like f*** you im in a box forever, and using another ability to keep them out)
must be in a box shape (technically rectangular prism)
Only lasts certain amount of time, or until cancelled

Hatsu: Tranformation & manipulation
Name: ryuudou
explanation: using manipulation nen, I can create flow in the water boxes (and if its manipulation nen id think normal water too, but to a lesser extent)
Mainly used to assist in repelling things or people or nen projectiles. If the flow is calculated right, when a projectile enters the box, it could follow the fluid flow and shoot out, so it can be semi offensive
Conditions:
not really a condition but a little knowledge of fluid mechanics would be good to know here, sometimes fluids dont act the you think
using this decreases the water box's time, so the more powerful the flow the less time the box will stay

If i was materialization, then...

Hatsu: Materialization
Name: Tin Can Cellphone
Explanation: Its literally a tin can telephone, lol. The cans are more like iron can-shaped weights, and where the open hole is, there is a mouth (the mouth is the thing that speaks to the person), and the string is some kind of strong/sharp metal string.
You say "Call [person's name]" and pay with a few drops of blood into the mouth or can say "Collect Call [person's name]" and to accept the other person will have to pay the blood, either way the other end will jump (im thinking through space, but im not sure if thats too powerful for only a few drops of blood) to the person and will appear in front of them and they will pick it up and if it was collect, the mouth will say what phones normally say when theres a collect call. Then you can talk like a call phone (im wondering if you should also be able to put stuff in the mouth and it be barfed out of the other end, might require a bigger condition even though it will only be small stuff, like id say the biggest thing would be a softball)
When in the middle of a call, the wire will be going through a different space like knov's ability but only the string can go through (so it cant be cut).
Like deme-chan, it can be used as a weapon, the cans will be relatively heavy and the string is strong enough so that it can be thrown around like a sickle and chain.
The string will be sharp enough so that it can cut people, like in Mortal Kombat (new one) sonya's fatality where she decapitates the enemy.
*If the person does not pick up, i think you should get the blood back (just like a pay phone)

Conditions:
The person you are calling has to have been bitten by the phone (doesnt have to be a hard bite, just to give the phone a taste of the nen so it can find the person)
Blood payment
maybe there should be another requirement on this, idk

I think the phone should get a name, like deme-chan has a name, but idk what it should be

thoughts?

 

[Uriel]

Welcome!
The transmutation one is good, although the property of the aura is viscosity and the shape of box is already a limitation. How to say it...You're over-thinking it.

The other one works well, although it has many counters.

 

[heehoo10]

I wanted it to be more about the water, but it ended up being more about the viscosity, but i wanted water, cuz i would be carrying a taser and would zap the water box that the opponent was currently in. I dont think the box shape is a limitation at all, the main limitation is that its immobile, but the drowning condition just goes to make it stronger .

The other one works well, although it has many counters.

Which one are you talking about, ryuudou or tin can cellphone? and what do you mean by counters?

And another ability would be based off the first ability being water...
hatsu: transformation & emission
Name: toketsu
details: "Freezes" a water box, making the black take on the charicteristics of ice and when touched with emmision aura on a certain side it will move in the opposite sides direction (push from the back it goes forward, push on the left side, it goes right), and it will move however fast it was pushed/how much aura was put in. The amount of aura needed to push is proportional to the volume of the box, and the speed of the box is inversly proportional to the volume of the box
So firing a bunch of little ones will have very fast "bullets" but a bigger one will move slower and take more aura, and a box that is reall big will not move much all and will take up most of your aura. If they hit something so hard that they shatter, then they will release a burst of cold aproximately 1.5x the volume but in spherical form. The bullets should shatter all the time cause of their speed, bigger blocks can either be set as traps or will need a lot of aura to get that high speed, but they will create a big burst of cold

conditions: May only move in 6 directions (on for each side of the box, remember that these boxes dont move so they cant change their orientation)
if a person is in a block it cannot be moved, but if an object/nen is in the block it is fine

heres one if i were reinforcment:
hatsu: reinforcement
name: ganjoutsume
details: reinforces fingernails, kinda like killua did without nen, but this will be with nen so itll probably be sharper than that. the strength of the nail will be proportional to its length. Even with ryu, it would still be very strong, but with ko, it would be insane
condition:
must have decent nail size
if a nail is broken then the hatsu isnt usable until the nail is brough back to normal condition

 

[Tame]

Hiya, welcome!

I like Mizoku, though you wouldn't be able to use it at very long distances, but as long as you know that that's cool. Also it might take a fair amount of nen to Transmute it, compared to say Bungee Gum or Killua's electricity, since the sizes of the substances they transmute (and therefore the amount of transmuting their doing) are much smaller. Nevertheless, a cool ability that I think would work.

I don't know much about water flow and such but I don't think manipulating the flow of the water would do that much more than the water's doing already. Plus with only 40% Manipulation I don't think there's not a whole lot you could do with it.

I really like Tin can Cellphone!

I think a few drops of blood is fine as a condition, but I don't think there's much point in getting it back if the other person doesn't answer (what you gonna do with a few drops of blood anyway? :P). My only query is, what differentiates it from a normal cell phone apart from its ability to be summoned at will out of thin air?


Another ability I've come up with.

Name: Haven't thought of one yet. :P
Type: Emission
Details: The user places a marking made of nen (like a tatoo) on an object or person (if a person, then that person must consent).
The user then puts an identical or corresponding marking on their own body.
By passing nen through the marking on their body, the user can teleport the object or person with the corresponding marking to their location.

The user must build up nen (through Gyo/Ko) in the marking until there is enough to teleport the object. Once enough has built up, the object will teleport to them and the nen used will be spent. The markings also fade (so the user has to create another one if he wishes to teleport the object again).

The larger the object, the more nen is needed to teleport it.

People with markings can also summon the user. To do so they must pass nen through their marking. The user's corresponding marking will then flash, indicating that they are being called. They can then build up nen through a flashing marking to teleport themself to the location of the person who is summoning them.

As I envision it, the user doesn't have a limit to the number of markings he can make, or if he does, its quite high.

My major concern for this is the question of over what distance the teleporting could be done? Metres, miles, what do you guys think?

 

[heehoo10]

Benefits of tin can cellphone vs normal cellphone, no dropped calls! (Fuck you AT&T!!!! lol) you can put a small object in one mouth and it gets barfed out the other end, and its untapable/untraceable, and in the dark continent theres probably no signal. Also every drop of blood counts in a fight, that could be life or death lol. Also that was the biggest issue with mizukou, the aura efficiency. A giant block of aura would be use a lot of aura, but thats why i wanted the drowning condition, so it would be balanced that it can be done with less aura

I like the teleportation idea, but i feel like the tattoo should be done in blood and nen, like its a space jumping nen, so its pretty powerful, so a little blood condition would balance it out

Hatsu: transformation & reinforcment
Name:
details: first one shapes the water aura into a thick disk on one's palm then spins it around pretty fast (not sure if this can be done, but i imagine it would be like doing the aura numbers which is transmutation training, but faster), then simply do a palm strike with the disk, i think one would have to reinforce one's hand to be safe, and if its possible, reinforce the disc for extra strength. Now that i think about it its kinda like rasengan but its flat. But depending on how big the disc you made was and how hard you struck the person will go spinning away

 

[Tame]

You're obssesed with blood! :P I don't think every drop of blood does count in a fight. But whatever, no harm in using blood to form the marking as well as nen.

I really like the teleportation aspect of the Tin Can Phone, but would it be feasible? Teleportation involves Emission, which is only at 40% if you're a Conjurer.

 

[heehoo10]

isnt knov materialization? and he can move things through space, id be using the same thing, but the entrance and exit from this nen space are in the mouths and its definately weaker than his cuz it would only be small objects that can go through not people.
every thing counts, remember when youpi was fighting shoot, shoot had taken away one eye out of the many he had on his body but it prevented him from going all out, so even a little blood loss could prevent someone from going all out, especially if theyve lost blood from wounds and stuff, also its not just a few drops its the about the same amount as palm when she uses her merman

I though of a Specialization nen idea that wuld be fun to have in present day modern society:

Hatsu: Specialization
Name: I heard it through the grapevine
details: Allows you to find out any secret/information/anything really, someone is hiding from you
let me say the conditions first:
1) You must ask the person who's secret it is to tell you and they must refuse (verbal, textual, written (passing notes in school lol), or body language)
2) The person has to have shared their secret with at least one person
3) That person must also have shared it with at least one person
4) You must write down the original person, the person the original told and the person that the 2nd person told like so:
John---->Jim----->Jack------[Insert your name here] (ayou gotta find out who these people are through snooping or intuition)

Then similar to lovely ghostwriter a cool ghosty thing will lead your hand to write down what the secret was, you will be in a trance while writing, like neon, and then you can read it once your done. Limit of 2 times a day
Then, you can laugh at the person for doing the embarassing thing that he/she did! LOL
This would just be fun to have also it could be like an information gathering tool
Say a person of power had a secret, first you dress up like a paparazzi, then ask him the question, when he refuses, you then write him, then his advisor, and then you could try the advisors family or friend, or lots of combinations, but only 2 guess a day so it may take a while

 

[Tame]

isnt knov materialization? and he can move things through space, id be using the same thing, but the entrance and exit from this nen space are in the mouths and its definately weaker than his cuz it would only be small objects that can go through not people.
every thing counts, remember when youpi was fighting shoot, shoot had taken away one eye out of the many he had on his body but it prevented him from going all out, so even a little blood loss could prevent someone from going all out, especially if theyve lost blood from wounds and stuff, also its not just a few drops its the about the same amount as palm when she uses her merman

In Youpi's case it was psychological, but whatever, there's no sense in arguing over it. But you're right, Knov is a Conjurer, so yeah, I guess it would work. Cool ability. The fact that it would have plenty of counters in battle doesn't matter because a) all techniques do and b) it wouldn't primarily be a combat ability anyway.

Say a person of power had a secret, first you dress up like a paparazzi, then ask him the question, when he refuses, you then write him, then his advisor, and then you could try the advisors family or friend, or lots of combinations, but only 2 guess a day so it may take a while

Lol, I just gotta go get a paparazzi costume from the costume shop. Still, fun ability. Unethical, but fun. :P

Name: Drop the Hammer
Type(s): Conjuration
Details: The user summons an over-sized mallet. When the hammer descends, it increases in mass (but stays the same size). The further and longer it descends, the more it increases in mass.

So swing it downwards and its attack becomes a bit more destructive. Jump up in the air and then come soaring downwards with it and it's attack is going to be pretty devastating to whatver it hits.

Commentary: Just thought of it on the spot 'cause I wanted to contribute something. :P Probably not the most practical ability around, but kinda cool I think.

 

[heehoo10]

haha, Dont paparazzi have signature hats or something, oh wait maybe im thinking of newsreporters, well you mainly just need a camera

Tin can cellphone would not be a combat ability, but it can be used in combat, in case you get caught while calling someone, you hang up and start swinging

I like the Hammer ability, I think it would be cooler if it was reinforcement on a real hammer
And the more downward distance traveled the more aura it gathers, like phinks's ripper cyclotron, but this is downwards distance traveled not arm spins.

 

[Uriel]

Novu is a materialization user because what He materializes is a manor who has the special quality that its entrances are the ones that Novu places in the real world.

It's not NEARLY the same as teleporting something. A more close case is Goreinu who teleported the Gorillas around or Razor who was the one in charge of the Emission system in which most moving cards were based on. So it would be Emission rather than conjuration.

 

[Tame]

I like the Hammer ability, I think it would be cooler if it was reinforcement on a real hammer
And the more downward distance traveled the more aura it gathers, like phinks's ripper cyclotron, but this is downwards distance traveled not arm spins.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense - thanks!

Novu is a materialization user because what He materializes is a manor who has the special quality that its entrances are the ones that Novu places in the real world.

It's not NEARLY the same as teleporting something. A more close case is Goreinu who teleported the Gorillas around or Razor who was the one in charge of the Emission system in which most moving cards were based on. So it would be Emission rather than conjuration.

Novu's mansion does have a pseudo-teleportation application built in, though; rather than immediately transporting one thing directly from one location to another, it uses a nen space as an intermediate path. There's no reason why the Tin Can Phone shouldn't be able to do something similar. If there's any controversy you could bring up I think it would be a question of how, having been placed inside the space, an object travels through the space and out the other side. In Novu's mansion one has to physically lift and carry any object from door to door.

 

[heehoo10]

Hatsu: Materialization
Name: you are what you eat
deatails: If you consume a food, you can materialize body parts that have abilities that the animal that was cooked to make the dish had, or non-meat, i guess veggies could give u photosynthetic appendages for extra energy. You can only materialize these things on you as long as the food is in your system (once u poop, its gone, lol)
The tastier/more extravegant/rare the dish, the more powerful the materialized appendage.
Example: eating boiled lobster, you can material a big lobster claw over your arm and it is semi strong, or you can do a carapace and it will be pretty good
however, eating a fancy lobster dish with spices and other fancy shit, you can material a claw and it will be super powerful, or its carapace and it will be really strong

I imagine the character being a gourmet hunter, and would eat a lot
i hope this isnt rinne hors doeurve's power.... shes old and weird looking, lolol

 

[Uriel]

Novu's mansion does have a pseudo-teleportation application built in, though; rather than immediately transporting one thing directly from one location to another, it uses a nen space as an intermediate path. There's no reason why the Tin Can Phone shouldn't be able to do something similar. If there's any controversy you could bring up I think it would be a question of how, having been placed inside the space, an object travels through the space and out the other side. In Novu's mansion one has to physically lift and carry any object from door to door.

You said it: Pseudo, teleportation. Thing is that Novu must visit both places (Entrance and exit, not the mansion) before he can use it.
The reason is simple: He can't if He doesn't visits the place before it being a materialization type. Emission is more suitable for that task, and I think there is a limit in the reach you have with it.

 

[heehoo10]

That's what the biting is for, its akin to visiting the place
And its a pseudo teleportation, one end will enter the materialized nen space (the nen space is shaped like a cylinder, with the 2 sides being the "doors"), and will exit through the other door which will be connected with the person being called
So basically i created a cylindrical nen space of two doors, the entrance door is always at your location, the exit door changes depending on who your calling, and it knows where to go cuz it bit the person, so it kinda like got a taste of the nen and tracks it down, and sure we can give it a limit for its reach

 

[Crude]

I really want to come up with my own hatsu, just a little scared that I can't come up with something that isn't too overpowered or Mary Sue-ish. C'mon brain, think of a cool Emission ability!

 

[heehoo10]

Just post what you want, it only matters that u think its balanced or not
and stick with simplcity, and things you know/like

example:

Hatsu: emmision
Name: shoop da whoop
details: Basically shoot a short hyper beam of aura from your mouth. To fire you had to shout "imma firin mah lazer, Blarg!!!" (all in one breath) and the a beam will shoot out for as long as you are blarging. It's about the size of a large handspan and it's aimed with your heads direction.

emmision attacks dont usually have conditions, but this shout condition will make it stronger, like with franklins nen how he cut his finger to make his nen stronger