Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[King Moe]

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That would be a terrible strategy. They are in the middle of the enemy forces, with Apoo and an All-Star in front them. Besides more enemies like Apoo could have jumped in.


I don't see how this count as not being "serious". Maybe he wasn't ready to fight someone like Apoo all of sudden.

Apoo proved to be dangerous, he wouldn't go down easily. Fighting him would only give time for the enemies to call reinforcements.

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Enma can still buy time by swing it around, not saying defeat everyone by himself.

Plus, Zoro stated himself he can't predict his DF abilities. Fighting him even if Zoro somehow wins would be High-Extreme Fight Difficulty. If one slash got him to his knees, then imagine non-stop musical barrage? He be seriously injured after the fight. Apoo is no joke at all to face with.

 

[M3J]

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Which is why Zoro did the smart thing by retreating, even if they did do the dumb thing by attacking in the first place. Besides, it's not like they knew Apoo's abilities.

 

[Fox666]

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And? In this chapter even luffy with advanced CoO could not sense the attack. This chapter didn't really mean anything much in terms of CoO proficiency, whether u like it or not

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Luffy couldn't use CoO properly because of his emotions. Zoro appeared to be more calm.

However, I don't think anything but future sight could be used to dodge an attack that moves instantly.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

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Luffy couldn't use CoO properly because of his emotions. Zoro appeared to be more calm.

However, I don't think anything but future sight could be used to dodge an attack that moves instantly.

Future sight should be able to detect the future, literally its definition, but whether luffy could avoid it or not depends on what he could do

 

[Fox666]

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Future sight should be able to detect the future, literally its definition, but whether luffy could avoid it or not depends on what he could do

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I presume Luffy could dodge the "musical" punch or explosions, I don't see why not

 

[nik87]

There is no point in trying to paint this to look better, Luffy's FS isnt as good as people expected, period.
All those who complain that FS is useless in this situation are just refusing to admit that Luffy failed at something...
He could have easily seen himself in the future getting blasted and he didnt even do that.

No, he wasnt even mad, as Zoro himself said "If you got it out of your system, let's get out of here."
Luffy gets punched - "Why was I hit?"
Zoro gets sliced - "No! Zoro!"
Zoro tells him to watch out because Apoo is up to something.
Luffy concurs.

Result = no FS was used that day.

 

[Fox666]

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There is no point in trying to paint this to look better, Luffy's FS isnt as good as people expected, period.
All those who complain that FS is useless in this situation are just refusing to admit that Luffy failed at something...
He could have easily seen himself in the future getting blasted and he didnt even do that.

No, he wasnt even mad, as Zoro himself said "If you got it out of your system, let's get out of here."
Luffy gets punched - "Why was I hit?"
Zoro gets sliced - "No! Zoro!"
Zoro tells him to watch out because Apoo is up to something.
Luffy concurs.

Result = no FS was used that day.

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During his fight with Katakuri, Luffy needed to calm down and close his eyes to use future sight.

He did not seemed to be in that mood when Apoo attacked him.

It's also possible it wouldn't have helped if he has no idea what hit him and from where...

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

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During his fight with Katakuri, Luffy needed to calm down and close his eyes to use future sight.

He did not seemed to be in that mood when Apoo attacked him.

It's also possible it wouldn't have helped if he has no idea what hit him and from where...

FS should be able to predict what will happen regardless of invisibility. Katakuri could see pudding crying even though he didn't know what caused that. It's a power to see a bit into the future afterall, as described in its introduction.
Luffy should not be that agitated such that he could not utilize the FS. There is nothing to suggest that one hit from Apoo disturb his emotion that terribly

 

[Brandish μ]

We're kinda getting off topic. This thread is for Zoro's character, hyping Zoro in many shape or forms, and discussing the legend of Roronoa Zoro-senpai - unless we digress to other topics, as below:

• To continue discussing Future Sight, I suggest the Haki Thread.
• To continue discussing Zoro's power level or to compare Zoro's strength, please use the Power Level Discussion thread.

I may move some posts from this thread to their preferred locations later. Thanks.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

who will zoro fight: Kaido or King?

 

[nik87]

who will zoro fight: Kaido or King?

I thought both at first but seems like he wants Kaido directly and it's expected since Zoro is part of the main force.
If weaker characters than him will be put against Kaido from the start, no reason why Zoro wouldnt be either.
On the other hand, I would hate to see someone else taking King who does have the vibe of a Zoro opponent.

 

[Pirate Queen]

who will zoro fight: Kaido or King?

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Both. Defeats King but slashes Kaido when given an opening.

Of 1 small slash from Apoo is already limiting his movement he is gunna need time to recover for a fight that big so it won't be soon. I'm curious to see if he will need help.

Its not that he was hit, as anyone would have gotten hit, but the he was effected by it. He should be able to brush off attacks to that degree.

Still think he is on pace tho.... he hasn't even shown Enma or new stuff.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

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Both. Defeats King but slashes Kaido when given an opening.

Of 1 small slash from Apoo is already limiting his movement he is gunna need time to recover for a fight that big so it won't be soon. I'm curious to see if he will need help.

Its not that he was hit, as anyone would have gotten hit, but the he was effected by it. He should be able to brush off attacks to that degree.

Still think he is on pace tho.... he hasn't even shown Enma or new stuff.

I agree with this match up and also what i think might happen. Zoro might go for extra round after his big fight against king to help luffy's fight, but only as an ally because zoro at that time should be fatigued from his big fight

 

[Brandish μ]

Power levels aside, I wonder if there are non-feat related requirements for Zoro to be Sword God. Something to do with the swords (e.g. Enma a God of hell) or Zoro using spirits like Asura (not ruling out both those being related).

 

[nik87]

Power levels aside, I wonder if there are non-feat related requirements for Zoro to be Sword God. Something to do with the swords (e.g. Enma a God of hell) or Zoro using spirits like Asura (not ruling out both those being related).

I think it's not literally becoming a god, it is post mortem title given to Ryuma due to his strength so it isnt ability related or to a specific sword.

Its not that he was hit, as anyone would have gotten hit, but the he was effected by it. He should be able to brush off attacks to that degree.

Not sure what else did you expect. Since when is flesh brushing off cutting based attacks? The same attack literally split Admiral into pieces, it would have split Zoro too if all cutting based damage wasnt nerfed on actual bodies since forever.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Power levels aside, I wonder if there are non-feat related requirements for Zoro to be Sword God. Something to do with the swords (e.g. Enma a God of hell) or Zoro using spirits like Asura (not ruling out both those being related).

He probably needs to be well known. This actually connects to what zoro said for his dream : his name will even reach the sky (the place usually associated for where gods live)

 

[Pirate Queen]

Not sure what else did you expect. Since when is flesh brushing off cutting based attacks? The same attack literally split Admiral into pieces, it would have split Zoro too if all cutting based damage wasnt nerfed on actual bodies since forever.

And not once did I say Zoro couldn't defeat King or Slash Kaido because of the injury. But he's going to be fighting a much higher tier of (hopefully) swordsman. If he is saying a slash from Apoo is effecting him what would a slash from King do.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

i think this chapter just implied that the current zoro and luffy were still fine, but they might have few more wounds from beating apoo. Those few wounds might be crucial when they have to fight the big boss in this arc (Kaido, King). This is similar to how sanji got his body beaten up from explosion in PH but still could fight vergo in healthy condition.

 

[Pirate Queen]

i think this chapter just implied that the current zoro and luffy were still fine, but they might have few more wounds from beating apoo. Those few wounds might be crucial when they have to fight the big boss in this arc (Kaido, King). This is similar to how sanji got his body beaten up from explosion in PH but still could fight vergo in healthy condition.

Well said I don't think what happened here will resonate thru to the end of the arc.

 

[Deleted member 169696]

I used to think Zoro will fight King but now I'm not sure seeing how he is heading towards Kaido himself.

May take on some small fry... Or tobiroppo... along the way. But King seems as someone who wouldn't go down quickly.

Instead they (Luffy, Zoro, Kid, Killer?) better off teaming up to defeat Kaido while at 100% health... as Zoro stated himself.