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Wahl lol stomp for now..way stronger than him..My boy has to be a monster if he wants to stand a chance or beat him
 

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It's like Mashima intentionally doesn't disclose the potential of Gray. Natsu, Ersa, even Laxus... Their power is already visible but Gray is still hidden from us.
While I give my voice Wahl only because Gray is discloused. And I repeat It's too early for battle with Gray. Soon, but not now
 

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It's like Mashima intentionally doesn't disclose the potential of Gray. Natsu, Ersa, even Laxus... Their power is already visible but Gray is still hidden from us.
While I give my voice Wahl only because Gray is discloused. And I repeat It's too early for battle with Gray. Soon, but not now
Yes i agree mashima seems to not show the true potential of gray's power i think we have to wait for gray vs invel for that
 

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My gut says Gary but we haven't seen much from him at all. For now Wahl wins, that should change though.
 

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Gray will eventually win anyway.
 

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Gray will eventually win anyway.
gray couldn't do any thing against Ajeel how can He win against Wahl who is definetly much above Ajeel.He fought with laxus on equal terms.
 

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gray couldn't do any thing against Ajeel how can He win against Wahl who is definetly much above Ajeel.He fought with laxus on equal terms.
We don't know gray true's power and i don't think he was that serious against ajeel..
 

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gray couldn't do any thing against Ajeel how can He win against Wahl who is definetly much above Ajeel.He fought with laxus on equal terms.
Neither can Natsu. He didn't do shit against Ajeel, what's your point?

Gray wasn't going all out, and was holding back because they were trying to escape from him.
 

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Neither can Natsu. He didn't do shit against Ajeel, what's your point?

Gray wasn't going all out, and was holding back because they were trying to escape from him.
He Frooze His Sand but It broke free.And Where did You take Natsu it is not Natsu Thread.Until We see More power from Gray I believe Wahl Wins Easily.Especially He is much above Ajeel and Managed to Fight laxus on equal terms.
 

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He Frooze His Sand but It broke free.And Where did You take Natsu it is not Natsu Thread.Until We see More power from Gray I believe Wahl Wins Easily.Especially He is much above Ajeel and Managed to Fight laxus on equal terms.
Yes wahl wins for now but not easily gray was holding back as hell against ajeel..ice make silver was pretty casual..and he was not surprised when ajeel broke his ice..
 

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He Frooze His Sand but It broke free.And Where did You take Natsu it is not Natsu Thread.Until We see More power from Gray I believe Wahl Wins Easily.Especially He is much above Ajeel and Managed to Fight laxus on equal terms.
Gray was going casual mode on Ajeel, he didn't break a sweat. Doesn't matter, I'm using the fact that Natsu didn't do shit against Ajeel either.
Based on spoilers, Wahl is getting his ass kicked by Laxus and the only way he fought evenly with Laxus is because the latter is poisoned up and hurting.

You can believe you want, but Gray will end up being stronger than Wahl anyway.
 

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Gray was going casual mode on Ajeel, he didn't break a sweat. Doesn't matter, I'm using the fact that Natsu didn't do shit against Ajeel either.
Based on spoilers, Wahl is getting his ass kicked by Laxus and the only way he fought evenly with Laxus is because the latter is poisoned up and hurting.

You can believe you want, but Gray will end up being stronger than Wahl anyway.
May be In The End Gray will be stronger than He is now.Ajeel was no match for Natsu.Natsu had casually burnt his Ant pit.You are being contradictory here.One hand You are saying Gray being unable to freeze his Sand(Sure it was his part energy) to being stronger than Wahl and on The Other Natsu burnt that Ant pit easily to claim that Ajeel is stronger than Natsu.Whereas It is clear that from last chapter Wahl is much stronger than Ajeel.
 

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May be In The End Gray will be stronger than He is now.Ajeel was no match for Natsu.Natsu had casually burnt his Ant pit.You are being contradictory here.One hand You are saying Gray being unable to freeze his Sand(Sure it was his part energy) to being str
onger than Wahl and on The Other Natsu burnt that Ant pit easily to claim that Ajeel is stronger than Natsu.Whereas It is clear that from last chapter Wahl is much stronger than Ajeel.
Are you fucking serious. Maybe lol no. Most likely yes. unlike what you want to believe every character will improve in the manga in the end not just your natsu. esp when gray hasnt shown his power and said he has a trick up his sleeve. Gray didnt use any noncasual ice move so how am i being contradictory

Natsu got a cheapshot on Ajeel which did nothing to Ajeel. theres no proof that wahl is stronger than ajeel as all he did was exploit Laxus weakness. Ajeel was lolstomping Erza who is stronger than Natsu. Ajeel will easily beat Natsu
 

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Wahl wins Medium-High difficulty.... his Firepower and close quarter skills is too powertul for Gray..
 

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Wall mid diff. High diff if Gray's darkness unlocks like Invel talks about in 498, Wall simply overpowers Gray with his Weakness and Assault Mode
 

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Don't know what you guys are talking about.

Wahl has no time to charge his weapons and aim.

Any missiles or bullets fired will be insta-frozen in mid air, it won't even touch Gray.

As for close-quarter combat, Gray is one of the best in Fairy Tail.

His speed and strength with Ice Devil Zeroth Long Sword would match Wahl evenly at the very least.

If Gray hits Wahl with one Ice Devil Zeroth Destructive Bow, that arrow will pierce Wahl's body and freeze his core inside out.

If Laxus could defeat Wahl while being at a disadvantage, I'm pretty sure Gray can do the same in neutral conditions.


EDIT: I'll give Gray the win mid-high diff. This is being lenient on Wahl considering Gray's intelligence >>>>>>> Wahl's intelligence
 

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After ch498, I'd say Gray with black marks is around Erza level. Enough to fight a S12 like Invel/Ajeel/Wahl, but not enough to solo.

So I'd say somewhere in between medium and high difficulty.
 

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After ch498, I'd say Gray with black marks is around Erza level. Enough to fight a S12 like Invel/Ajeel/Wahl, but not enough to solo.

So I'd say somewhere in between medium and high difficulty.

No offense here, but how is Gray with black marks around Erza level?

Gray was no less than on par with Invel and that is being extremely lenient.

Erza almost died to Ajeel.

And Invel >>> Ajeel.

Gray never came close to dying against Invel, if anything, he was winning until Invel used a cowardly move like Ice Lock.


Anyway, to not get off topic, Gray definitely has shown feats on the level to outclass Wahl.

Again, if Laxus could beat Wahl while being had 2 major disadvantages, I'm pretty sure Gray can do the same on neutral grounds.

Especially with his black marks and Ice Demon Slaying Magic.
 
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