Games Mafia Game 57 - Tokyo Ghoul: Rebirth - END GAME

[Spirit]

Ending Credits

Thank You for Playing Mafia Game 57!


Player Actions Report

Spoiler: Day One

Politician - Farfalla > Force MonkeyD-Dragon to vote Demonspeed >> Success

Spoiler: Night One

Priority 1

Barkeeper - Kato756 > Invite TSPanda, Farfalla, Brandish > Brandish is redirected to Erinyes

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block SonOfDaws >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block GrySun >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate Farfalla >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate TSPanda >> Guilty
Paranoid Det - Qixus > Investigate GrySun > Guilty

Sane Doctor - SonOfDaws > Protect Farfalla > Blocked
Bodyguard - GrySun > Protect TSPanda >> Blocked


Priority 3

Recruiting Mason - gnut > Recruit Farfalla >> Success

Insane Doctor (killing) - Organizized > Kill TSPanda >> Coin flip failed >>> Dies before he can kill
Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill Organizized >> Organizized dies

Spoiler: Day Two

Mafia Gambler - Brandish > Force desin24 to vote Purity of Magi >> Coin flip failed >>> desin24 can't be killed by the mafia on Night Two

Spoiler: Night Two

Priority 1

Barkeeper - Kato756 > Invite TSPanda , Farfalla, Arjuna >> Farfalla reveals her role

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Farfalla >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block Zasz >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate GrySun >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate GrySun >> Guilty
Paranoid Det - Qixus > Investigate SonOfDaws >> Guilty

Sane Doctor - SonOfDaws > Save TSPanda >> Success
Bodyguard - GrySun > Protect TSPanda >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Pirate - Arjuna > Steal from GrySun >> Success

Recruiting Mason - gnut > Recruit TSPanda >> gnut dies

Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill SonOfDaws > SonOfDaws dies


Extra:

TSPanda passes the Non-Voter Disease to Erinyes

Spoiler: Night Three

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Lambu >> Coin flip won >>> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block MonkeyD-Dragon >> Fails


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate TSPanda >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate Arjuna >> Innocent
Naive Det - Qixus > Investigate Arjuna >> Innocent

Bodyguard - Arjuna > Protect Purity of Magi >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill Monkey D-Dragon >> Blocked


Extra:

Erinyes passes the Non-Voter Disease to Lambu

Spoiler: Night Four

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Lambu >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate MonkeyD-Dragon >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate Lambu >> Innocent
Naive Det - Qixus > Investigate Farfalla >> Innocent


Priority 3

Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Kill Farfalla >> Farfalla dies


Extra:

Lambu passes the Non-Voter Disease to TSPanda

Spoiler: Day Five

Traitor - Holt > Duel Purity of Magi >> Coin flip won >>> Purity of Magi dies

Spoiler: Night Five

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Holt >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block Holt >> Recruited


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate desin24 >> Innocent

Santa Claus (temporary) - desin24 > Protect MonkeyD-Dragon >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Boss - TSPanda >> GrySun >>> GrySun dies


Extra:

MonkeyD-Dragon protects himself with his Bulletproof Protection

TSPanda passes the Non-Voter Disease to Zasz

Player Roles

1. @goodboy_lawlett - Tsukiyama Mafia Escort
2. @Purity of Magi - Kanou Insane Detective
3. @SonOfDaws - Arima Sane Doctor
4. @Mazino - Yamori Restless Spirit
5. @Organizized - Owl Insane Doctor
6. @Brandish - Kaneki Mafia Gambler
7. @Kato756 - Ayato Bar Keeper
8. @Farfalla - Eto Politician > Mason >> Miller >>> Martyr
9. @Demonspeed - Touka Death Miller
10. @desin24 - Hinami Witch
11. @Lambu - Amon Mafia Janitor
12. @MonkeyD-Dragon - Nishiki Prostitute
13. @gnut - Furuta Recruiting Mason
14. @Zasz - Rize Bomb
15. @Holt - Yomo Traitor > Mafia Member
16. @TSPanda - Mutsuki Mafia Boss
17. @Erinyes - Akira Sane Detective
18. @Qixus - Saiko Paranoid Detective > Naive Detective
19. @Arjuna - Tatara Mafia Pirate > Bodyguard
20. @GrySun - Shirazu Bodyguard > Regular Townie >> Martyr

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Tarot Card Triggers

Spoiler

1. Sane Detective

The Tower​

- 3+ dead players have their role hidden by the Janitor: gets a single use of the Investigator's ability.
- 3+ townies are lynched: won't be able to vote on the next day.

2. Insane Detective

The Sun​

- A player he investigates is killed on the same night: immediately gets to know the actions that were used on that player like a Mortician.
- 3+ townies are lynched: needs to win a coin flip every time he tries to investigate someone or his target will be randomized.

3. Paranoid Detective

The Wheel of Fortune​

- The Sane Detective and the Insane Detective are both dead: turns into a Sane Detective, with a retroactive effect on his previous investigations.
- A player he investigates is killed on the same night: unknowingly turns into a Naive Detective.

4. Sane Doctor

The Moon​

- Successfully saves a townie from death: his protection won't work on mafia members anymore.
- Successfully saves a mafia member from death: won't be able to save anyone else until that same mafia member is dead.

5. Insane Doctor

The Chariot​

- Kills a townie: 50% fail chance to protect or kill someone at night (turns into "Unskilled" Insane Doc).
- Kills a mafia: loses the ability to protect and can only kill at night (turns into a "Townie" Serial Killer).

6. Bodyguard

The Stars​

- 3+ townie targets: he will be confirmed as a townie on the second next Day Phase (like an Innocent Child).
- 2+ mafia targets: unknowingly turns into a Hider.

7. Prostitute

Justice​

- 1+ mafia action blocked: gets a temporary Bulletproof protection to use on herself for one night.
- 3+ townie townie actions blocked: she gets automatically redirected to a random target whenever she tries to block a player.

8. Barkeeper

The Magician​

- Every time a drunk mafia reveals his role: also reveals the activation conditions and effects of that player's Tarot abilities.
- Every time a drunk townie's ability which would have produced a meaningful result gets blocked or redirected to a useless or harmful target: he won't be able to use his ability on the next night.

9. Politician

The Emperor​

- 3+ force someone to vote for a mafia member: becomes a Prosecutor.
- 3+ force someone to vote for a townie: 50% fail chance to corrupt a vote (like a Mafia Gambler).

10. Bomb

The Lovers​

- Still alive at the start of Day 5: will blow up the next mafia who targets him with any night action (that isn't a defusing).
- 2+ successfully targeted with a night action before the end of Night 4: will blow up the next mafia or townie who targets him with any night action (that isn't a defusing).

11. Witch

The Empress​

- Still alive at the start of Day 5: she will obtain a temporary Santa Claus present she can only give on the next night, containing a single-use Bulletproof protection for the same night (could have just said she gets a single-use Sane Doctor's ability...).
- Less than 50% of the votes that lead to the Witch getting lynched come from mafia members: her ability will take place one night earlier if her target is a townie or one night later if her victim is a mafia member.

12. Restless Spirit

The Devil​

- Killed by a townie or lynched: his ability will count for two votes instead of one.
- Dies and votes for a mafia member who gets lynched on the same day: he will come back to life as a Regular Townie at the start of the next Day Phase.

13. Recruiting Mason

Death​

- 3+ Regular Masons alive at the same time: becomes a Kamikaze Bomb with the timer set to zero.
- 1+ Mason dies: 50% fail chance to recruit another player (turns into "Unskilled" Recruiting Mason).

14. Death Miller

The Hanged Man​

- Investigated by a Detective: 50% chance to kill anyone who targets him with any night action until he kills someone (like an "Unskilled" Paranoid Gun Owner).
- Kill a townie with the unlocked ability: won't be able to vote on the next day.

15. Traitor

The Hierophant​

- Not recruited by the start of Day 4: can duel a player like a Badass Cowboy once with a 50% chance to kill or be killed. The duel is secret and only the dead duelist is revealed. Loses the chance to use the ability is he gets recruited.
- Recruited 3 or less other mafia members alive: gets a single use of the role of one of the dead mafia members. If he chooses the Pirate, he can only choose the role he died with (so either Pirate if he hadn't stolen anything, or the role the Pirate had stolen).


16. Mafia Boss

Temperance​

- Investigated by a Detective: can infect someone with a Non-Voter Disease which will be passed around for the rest of the game, but can only do it on the following night.
- Survived a Day phase with 4+ non-penalty votes on him: the only targets available to be mafia-killed for the following night will be those who voted for him.

17. Mafia Escort

Judgement​

- 3+ townie actions blocked: all her next blocks will also reveal the target of the player she blocks (like a Spy).
- 2+ blocks on townies who didn't use any action: 50% fail chance to block someone again turns into "Unskilled" Mafia Escort).

18. Mafia Janitor

The Hermit​

- 3+ townies killed by the Janitor: gets a single use of a Strongman's ability.
- Gets lynched: also reveals all the targets of his teammates' actions, but neither the actions themselves nor the night or day phase when they were performed.

19. Mafia Gambler

The High Priestess​

- 3+ successful gambles: automatically win the coin flip to use his ability (like a Politician).
- Every time a mafia member is lynched: won't be able to gamble on the next day.

20. Mafia Pirate

Strength​

- Steal a passive role: gets a single use of a Bomb Defuser's ability.
- Remains as the last member of his mafia: gets a single use of an Assassin's ability.


21. Regular Townie

The World​

- 1+ mafia gets lynched after the player became a Regular Townie: gains the role of Martyr.
- 2+ townies get lynched after the player became a Regular Townie: unknowingly becomes a Miller.


0. Regular Mason

The Fool​

- 2+ mafia members get lynched after the player became a Regular Mason: becomes a Martyr.
- Loses an active role by being recruited: unknowingly becomes a Miller.

Thanks to Vandred for Cohosting and contributing largely to the soon to be infamous Tarot Card System.
Thanks to Farfalla for designing our Avatars.
Thanks to everybody for playing the game and making things interesting

MVP: Panda who came up with literal code talk. BAMF.

​

 

[Copy Panda]

Just hopped on the computer and wow, there's a lot of material to review.
Anyone wanna summarize for me?

tarot cards are confusing

By looking like it I will say there are 5 Mafia's in this game.

By the way I need a little info.Is it compulsory for us to cast one vote per day phase.Or can we refrain from lynching anyone in a day phase.

by looking like mafia?

Dont know TG, so need to google who is Akira....
googling in process

my google result got me disturbing results..

I would say Demon is a safe bet as he basically 99%mafia but i usually tend to random vote on day 1 as it's hard to get some consistent info that early.

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also i tend to avoid a lot bandwagon unless theres some solid proof.

ah yeah

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed

In this avi Shirazu looks like he‘s seen a lot of things in his life. I like the expression though on other pics he looks kinda weird, like a comic relief. Though maybe that‘s the fine artstyle of TG?

Will suspect Farf from the start too this game, since she usually manages to go by without anyone ever suspecting her.

Panda begs to disagree.

LOL

when i read gry’s post i was 200% thinking ‘lol i beg to disagree’ and then i saw your post lmfao

Panda is an actual sugoi player so he doesn‘t count. Hoping he‘s town but he hasn‘t been here much and said things yet.

some stuff came up

@Farfalla Dont listen to them, Eto is best female character in the series, period.

What are the odds of Demon being mafia again? That should be taken into account, I mean, its incredibly unlikely if you think it in terms of probability.
As of now I think there's very few leads yet, just dont kill poor Zasz.

@Qixus @TSPanda @Brandish @Mazino the game's already started.

well, every mafia game technically is an independent chance experiment, meaning that drawing results have no bearing whatsoever on the drawing of the next game, but the problem is that when demon is mafia u get fucked bc ur like ‘well theres no way hes mafia again’

last game he was given the most satanic role and he relished in it!

Who's Kaneki btw?

minor character

Not sure how far your plannings will get you. If you're townie chances to win are already pretty much nonexistant, and if you're mafia your team will have to live without you. They'd probably still win though.
Doubt you're getting lynched, you always find some way out. But just in case start thinking of whatever role you're gonna claim to be. Will be fun seeing what you can come up with.

oh come on

So is it ok to share the card ?

no i don’t think so

On the contrary I'm afraid that Mafia may have or will at a later stage obtain more information (it says so vaguely in the rules) about the cards, and what we may at this stage think is harmless sharing could give them an advantage. One person suggested to share our cards and people just jumped on it assuming the actual card doesn't have anything to do with the effects. Hell, even if the Scum additional intel thing is just something I misunderstood, if we find out the cards do have effects directly related to them, you'll have revealed a big part of your potential abilities and usefulness as a player.

Obviously you guys could be right and it's totally harmless, but I'm just saying we haven't actually confirmed anything about this tarot system yet.

yeah all things considered i dont think we should reveal the tarot cardo

see the hosts have been trying to make it clear that there are hints and things we should look out for that provide us with information on our chikara. if this info is in plain sight we’re actually giving up info to the mafia about what seems to be a potentially powerful extra ability.

my suggestion is to at least try to figure out if there are duplicates or not by having some phases pass by

The rules say:
"you don't actually know the conditions for gaining these Effects, even after you have received them"
"the Scum have their own ways of finding this information and learn what they received from a Card Effect and why, but only after having unlocked it"

Here comes my spicy logic again, but it seems that they are able to learn about the effects they got after it happens. They learn about their own effects, not about the other ones. They also don't know how to unlock it since they also only learn the "why" after it happens.
That means that the mafia will have true information about it, and will have to lie about those as well, for selfprotection and 'cause the townies won't know about theirs (we might end up knowing but I guess it's due to gathering pieces and correctly assuming stuff, unlike them).

That being said, I don't see it as risky. They can't have access to ours. I doesn't seem to be easy even for us to even guess what our cards means or provide.

That being said, if they activate and they still get told how to activate the power, doesn’t that imply there’s more to that knowledge other than just info about yourself?

are u mafia detective? ^>^

lol

I´d say at least one or two people should say their effects (if they don´t think this will compromise them) when they get it ( I plan to do that), since it is the only way for us to know what relation our cards have to the powers that we get.

Sure, it could be a double edge sword because the mafia will also know, but the earlier we understand these cards the earlier we can use them against the mafia

i dont see how a split town could use this info better than organized mafia :>

Yeah, I also thought the Cards could be related to the chars we got instead, randomized along with them. But then I'd expect to be The Empress, instead of The Emperor (unless Eto is a trap, who knows nowadays).

i dont think the ava has anything to do with it, since it’s a hint available to all. like lets say the mafia figures out what your card can do and how easy or hard the activation sequence is (or, for all intents and purposes, a card could give u the ability to find out about other cards, or at least the mafia could), if you got a powerful card, it’s unlikely you got a powerful role as well. it could be possible but since they carefully thought this out im saying for now its unlikely. the more powerful roles probably have weaker cards.

as the game goes on, we’ll probably figure out some relationship between role and card

My card fits me to a T .

the mafia

I doubt either of our hosts is much of a tarot card believer and that they'd study all the 20 positive and 20 negative effects and assign things that way... No way man.

lol have u met withyouinspirit

So, for anyone who is detective first time: That is basically the strongest town role. Don't screw it up.

(((no pressure)))

Best time to reveal your results are day 3(if you have 1 guilty and 1 innocent result) or day 4(again if you have both guilty and innocent results). That's when we get mafias and confirmed townies, try to protect you with roles and hopefully get more out of you. So, no pressure but don't be as bad as our detectives in the past few games.

The dude has over 200 posts to read, tho.

tru

I think it's safe to reveal it. It might be a hint for our potential secondary roles but that's all. We don't even know the activation conditions.

lol yeah thats what ud want isnt it

Yes,you know that bastard too

I tend to trust you lammy...i can say i think i know how you play...alittle.
You are quite open and talkative......townie finally lol xD

What you think about gry?

Yes and no, its kinda like a double edge weapon, if I understood it correctly the mafia has an advantage when it comes to getting how the card "triggers" showing our cards too soon might lead them to how to deal with each one of us (depending of the relevance and connection between the card and the players role, for example)

Still, if everyone decides its the best I'll say mine with no regrets, as the advantage would be reduced considerably if we know their cards too.

Ikr

I can finally roam free and type witout thinking 5 times what Im going to type lmao

As for Gry, its a mystery to me, like he's playing similar to the last game and he was also townie with "boring role" as he claimed, but him focusing in demon at the beggining was a little strange (not for meme but for sheer probability). I'll trust him for now though, I should be awake in the final moments of the day.

lol guys?

Votekill Daws.
Won't lie, this is mostly a placeholder. I think I'll be back a couple of hours before the end but, in case I dont wake up, won't get a pênalty.
It's not fully a placeholder cause I felt that Daws followed a bit of the game and "stayed away from it", commenting about previous things or providing nothing relevant (or just nothing at all) about the setup. Felt like activity for the sake of being active online. And I got spoiled by the past insightful Daws.
Another day with a lot of barely active or fully inactive people tho, yay o/

never change winning strat

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am i reading right once u have the card u actually dont get to find out shit? like rules dont actually mention informing the player on karma progress?

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Are you asking if Tarots get revealed alongside roles upon a player's death? In that case, yes.

do we also see in what karma position they were..?

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if these cards are getting revealed, it means that theres some kind of information behind this revelation that tells us something about our own conditions :thinking

 

[Vandred]

am i reading right once u have the card u actually dont get to find out shit? like rules dont actually mention informing the player on karma progress?

You always find out if an Effect has been activated, but only some roles get to learn what the Effect does. No townie can learn the activation conditions of their Tarot's Effects, neither before or after they unlock them.

Mafia members, instead, always learn what the Effect they unlocked does AND they get informed of what led to it being activated, but only after it has happened.

do we also see in what karma position they were..?

No.

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Spoiler: Vote Count 12/20

VOTEKILL GNUT

!votekill Demonspeed

votekill/stakeandskinandroast Mutsuki

Votekill Yamori

votekill demon

Votekill Farfalla

Votekill gry

Votekill SonofDaws

Votekill desin

VOTE KILL BRANDISH

Votekill Daws.

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed

Demonspeed 3x (GrySun, goodboy_lawlett, TSPanda)

SonOfDaws 2x (Holt, Farfalla)

gnut 1x (Purity of Magi)

TSPanda 1x (desin24)

Mazino 1x (SonOfDaws)

Farfalla 1x (MonkeyD-Dragon)

GrySun 1x (gnut)

desin24 1x (Zasz)

Brandish 1x (Kato756)

 

[Arjuna]

tarot cards are confusing



by looking like mafia?



my google result got me disturbing results..



ah yeah

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed





LOL

when i read gry’s post i was 200% thinking ‘lol i beg to disagree’ and then i saw your post lmfao





some stuff came up



well, every mafia game technically is an independent chance experiment, meaning that drawing results have no bearing whatsoever on the drawing of the next game, but the problem is that when demon is mafia u get fucked bc ur like ‘well theres no way hes mafia again’

last game he was given the most satanic role and he relished in it!



minor character



oh come on



no i don’t think so



yeah all things considered i dont think we should reveal the tarot cardo

see the hosts have been trying to make it clear that there are hints and things we should look out for that provide us with information on our chikara. if this info is in plain sight we’re actually giving up info to the mafia about what seems to be a potentially powerful extra ability.

my suggestion is to at least try to figure out if there are duplicates or not by having some phases pass by



That being said, if they activate and they still get told how to activate the power, doesn’t that imply there’s more to that knowledge other than just info about yourself?



lol



i dont see how a split town could use this info better than organized mafia :>



i dont think the ava has anything to do with it, since it’s a hint available to all. like lets say the mafia figures out what your card can do and how easy or hard the activation sequence is (or, for all intents and purposes, a card could give u the ability to find out about other cards, or at least the mafia could), if you got a powerful card, it’s unlikely you got a powerful role as well. it could be possible but since they carefully thought this out im saying for now its unlikely. the more powerful roles probably have weaker cards.

as the game goes on, we’ll probably figure out some relationship between role and card



the mafia




lol have u met withyouinspirit



(((no pressure)))





tru



lol yeah thats what ud want isnt it





lol guys?



never change winning strat

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am i reading right once u have the card u actually dont get to find out shit? like rules dont actually mention informing the player on karma progress?

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 14, 2017 ---

do we also see in what karma position they were..?

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if these cards are getting revealed, it means that theres some kind of information behind this revelation that tells us something about our own conditions :thinking

No silly I read the rules.


Vote Kill Kato756


This is just a random vote.Nothing else.So it doesn't matter much.

 

[Demonspeed]

lol yeah thats what ud want isnt it

I revealed my card you know.

 

[Spirit]

Spoiler: Vote Count 13/20

VOTEKILL GNUT

!votekill Demonspeed

votekill/stakeandskinandroast Mutsuki

Votekill Yamori

votekill demon

Votekill Farfalla

Votekill gry

Votekill SonofDaws

Votekill desin

VOTE KILL BRANDISH

Votekill Daws.

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed

Demonspeed 3x (GrySun, goodboy_lawlett, TSPanda)

SonOfDaws 2x (Holt, Farfalla)

gnut 1x (Purity of Magi)

TSPanda 1x (desin24)

Mazino 1x (SonOfDaws)

Farfalla 1x (MonkeyD-Dragon)

GrySun 1x (gnut)

desin24 1x (Zasz)

Brandish 1x (Kato756)

Kato756 1x (Arjuna)

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[Organizized]

Slept like two hours total. And three hours the night before.

Honestly I don't have strong enough suspicions on anyone for a true justified vote. Gry would be the closest, but that's still mostly gut feeling. And for some reason Farfs always gives me untrustworthy vibes (sorry Falla, I know I'm usually wrong).

Anyway, votekill Gry for now.

 

[Spirit]

Spoiler: Vote Count 14/20

VOTEKILL GNUT

!votekill Demonspeed

votekill/stakeandskinandroast Mutsuki

Votekill Yamori

votekill demon

Votekill Farfalla

Votekill gry

Votekill SonofDaws

Votekill desin

VOTE KILL BRANDISH

Votekill Daws.

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed

votekill Gry

Demonspeed 3x (GrySun, goodboy_lawlett, TSPanda)

SonOfDaws 2x (Holt, Farfalla)

GrySun 2x (gnut, Organizized)

gnut 1x (Purity of Magi)

TSPanda 1x (desin24)

Mazino 1x (SonOfDaws)

Farfalla 1x (MonkeyD-Dragon)

desin24 1x (Zasz)

Brandish 1x (Kato756)

Kato756 1x (Arjuna)

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[Erinyes]

I never said I trust gnut
Though Im pretty sure Im townie

Oh just remembered " i swear on my waifu I'm a townie"

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Here's the recap, please tell me if i missed something, I'll fix it Asap

Recap

1. goodboy_lawlett - Tsukiyama
2. Purity of Magi - Kanou
3. SonOfDaws - Arima
4. Mazino - Yamori
5. Organizized - Owl
6. Brandish - Kaneki
7. Kato756 - Ayato
8. Farfalla - Eto
9. Demonspeed - Touka -> passive role / townie ?
10. desin24 - Hinami
11. Lambu - Amon -> Townie ?
12. MonkeyD-Dragon - Nishiki
13. gnut - Furuta -> An old role, 1st time get it.
14. Zasz - Rize
15. Holt - Yomo
16. TSPanda - Mutsuki
17. Erinyes - Akira
18. Qixus - Saiko
19. Arjuna - Tatara
20. GrySun - Shirazu -> has a role that‘s not used often and I consider it to be rather weak and not fun

Tarots

Farfalla -> Emperor
Demonspeed-> Hanged man
Gry -> Star
Monkey D Dragon -> Justice
Kato -> Magician

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 14, 2017 ---

Votekill Holt


no reason, just a random vote as i have to cast a vote before the end of the day.

 

[Brandish μ]

votekill Demonspeed

 

[Organizized]

votekill Demonspeed

Random vote or any particular reason?

 

[Qixus]

Okokokokok.

I'm gonna.... vote kill SonOfDaws.
Sorry boo~

 

[Demonspeed]

Three persons voted me because they are (apparently) salty. Brandish votes for me just like that .

 

[Spirit]

Spoiler: Vote Count 17/20

VOTEKILL GNUT

!votekill Demonspeed

votekill/stakeandskinandroast Mutsuki

Votekill Yamori

votekill demon

Votekill Farfalla

Votekill gry

Votekill SonofDaws

Votekill desin

VOTE KILL BRANDISH

Votekill Daws.

duck femon

Votekill DemonSpeed

votekill Gry

Votekill Holt

votekill Demonspeed

vote kill SonOfDaws.

Demonspeed 4x (GrySun, goodboy_lawlett, TSPanda, Brandish)

SonOfDaws 3x (Holt, Farfalla, Qixus)

GrySun 2x (gnut, Organizized)

gnut 1x (Purity of Magi)

TSPanda 1x (desin24)

Mazino 1x (SonOfDaws)

Farfalla 1x (MonkeyD-Dragon)

desin24 1x (Zasz)

Brandish 1x (Kato756)

Kato756 1x (Arjuna)

Holt 1x (Erinyes)

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[Copy Panda]

Three persons voted me because they are (apparently) salty. Brandish votes for me just like that .

caution*

You always find out if an Effect has been activated, but only some roles get to learn what the Effect does. No townie can learn the activation conditions of their Tarot's Effects, neither before or after they unlock them.

Mafia members, instead, always learn what the Effect they unlocked does AND they get informed of what led to it being activated, but only after it has happened.


No.

i see, thanks for clarifying o/

No silly I read the rules.


Vote Kill Kato756


This is just a random vote.Nothing else.So it doesn't matter much.

what rule fam, why so sure its 5

I revealed my card you know.

true but if youre mafia its not even close to risky for u

Slept like two hours total. And three hours the night before.

Honestly I don't have strong enough suspicions on anyone for a true justified vote. Gry would be the closest, but that's still mostly gut feeling. And for some reason Farfs always gives me untrustworthy vibes (sorry Falla, I know I'm usually wrong).

Anyway, votekill Gry for now.

yeah grytan has been on edge a bit but ive been blaming that on last game proceedings still not sitting well. if he turns out to be mafia thatd be unfortunate

 

[Arjuna]

caution*



i see, thanks for clarifying o/



what rule fam, why so sure its 5



true but if youre mafia its not even close to risky for u



yeah grytan has been on edge a bit but ive been blaming that on last game proceedings still not sitting well. if he turns out to be mafia thatd be unfortunate

See the rule thread.There it is mentioned that 18-20 people game will have 5 Mafias.

 

[Demonspeed]

Van said that no Townie can know the action conditions but he didn't say that Mafia are aware of the card's powers. They must know that activation conditions but that's all. Plus there are two effects possible. Fulfilling the conditions isn't necessarily good. 3rd parties could also be in the game.

 

[Copy Panda]

huh no shit i thought the range indicator was 4-5 people based on 18-21 players

nvm i guess

 

[Farfalla]

That being said, if they activate and they still get told how to activate the power, doesn’t that imply there’s more to that knowledge other than just info about yourself?

No, imo, cause the triggers might differ from a person to another, kinda like the seals in the FE MG. That's what it looks like from what Vandred said right after as well:

No townie can learn the activation conditions of their Tarot's Effects, neither before or after they unlock them.

i dont think the ava has anything to do with it, since it’s a hint available to all. like lets say the mafia figures out what your card can do and how easy or hard the activation sequence is (or, for all intents and purposes, a card could give u the ability to find out about other cards, or at least the mafia could), if you got a powerful card, it’s unlikely you got a powerful role as well. it could be possible but since they carefully thought this out im saying for now its unlikely. the more powerful roles probably have weaker cards.
as the game goes on, we’ll probably figure out some relationship between role and card

Yeah, meant more like "considered as well", when trying to think about stuff regarding the cards.

And for some reason Farfs always gives me untrustworthy vibes (sorry Falla, I know I'm usually wrong).

Well, that's what this game is about, no? \o/

Really wish I felt vibes from people, or had some gut feeling I felt like trusting, at this point of the day...

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See the rule thread.There it is mentioned that 18-20 people game will have 5 Mafias.

The rule serves as an indication tho. Considering you could have 3rd parties, this composition can change.

Van said that no Townie can know the action conditions but he didn't say that Mafia are aware of the card's powers. They must know that activation conditions but that's all. Plus there are two effects possible. Fulfilling the conditions isn't necessarily good. 3rd parties could also be in the game.

He did say they aren't, more than once. Like us, they don't know about it until they unlock something. THEN they CAN LEARN what they unlocked and why.

 

[Arjuna]

No, imo, cause the triggers might differ from a person to another, kinda like the seals in the FE MG. That's what it looks like from what Vandred said right after as well:



Yeah, meant more like "considered as well", when trying to think about stuff regarding the cards.


Well, that's what this game is about, no? \o/

Really wish I felt vibes from people, or had some gut feeling I felt like trusting, at this point of the day...

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The rule serves as an indication tho. Considering you could have 3rd parties, this composition can change.

He did say they aren't, more than once. Like us, they don't know about it until they unlock something. THEN they CAN LEARN what they unlocked and why.

Well that can be the case also.If then the Mafia will decrease around 3 members.

 

[Demonspeed]

Three members is too low IMO. They should be at least four. And there are potential third parties.