Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[afromarco005]

different context. That poster was a gag scene about sanji having too much ego to accept his poster image.

But sanji clearly hates the germa thing. Sanji wearing raid suit is like him giving up his policy to kick women,or using his hands to fight.

Also, using raid suit made it seemed like he didnt have enough CoA and CoO to compensate

I was talking about the okama part of him

 

[hokageji]

Zoro surrendered his pride and begged Mihawk to train him for luffy.

Sanji could swallow his pride and don the dumb suit

I think you just made the only scenario other than perversion which would coax Sanji to don on the suit.

Of course, he'll wear it to save his nakama... but to take down an opponent just for that is unlikely.

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Sanji is never going to eat a DF ever.... His dream is "all blue", not to be the strongest kicker in the world...

He can go as strong as he wants, but his dream will never be achieved with a devil fruit. I really hope he doesnt use the raid suit though. Raid suits built using evil technology right? Perhaps Franky can find a way to weaponize it or make it useful for Usopp...

 

[Pirate Queen]

I think you just made the only scenario other than perversion which would coax Sanji to don on the suit.

Of course, he'll wear it to save his nakama... but to take down an opponent just for that is unlikely.

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Sanji is never going to eat a DF ever.... His dream is "all blue", not to be the strongest kicker in the world...

He can go as strong as he wants, but his dream will never be achieved with a devil fruit. I really hope he doesnt use the raid suit though. Raid suits built using evil technology right? Perhaps Franky can find a way to weaponize it or make it useful for Usopp...

People throw the "never" word around far too much in these forums.

It's obvious the suit will come into play. either for Sanji to shun it and exceed his limits on his own or to use it in despiration.

 

[XXGenesis]

People throw the "never" word around far too much in these forums.

It's obvious the suit will come into play. either for Sanji to shun it and exceed his limits on his own or to use it in despiration.

I agree. It's probably more than likely he'll won't. Don't know about never, Sanji wanted the invisible man DF, that was recently stolen from Absalom. So never just is the correct language to use In such a case

 

[nik87]

What if Sanji's raid suit has camouflage ability and mimics invisibility?
He could finally peep on the ladies bathing!

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro surrendered his pride and begged Mihawk to train him for luffy.

Sanji could swallow his pride and don the dumb suit

well sanji sure didnt try to poison the wedding cake or hit kalifa in enies lobby.
he seemed like to have bigger ego than zoro and refuse to give up his pride

 

[Pirate Queen]

@Grandmaster Woro Sure Sanji's pride might be stronger than Zoro's but everyone has a breaking point...

 

[M3J]

Why would Sanji poison the cake? Hasn't anyone read the Baratie Arc? Anything regarding Sanji? His flashback? Jeez. If Sanji did poison the cake, it'd have hurt his character in best case scenario, given he's NEVER been about that. Also pretty sure Luffy would not have forgiven Sanji for poisoning Big Mom either, especially given how Luffy's all about man-to-man fights.

holy shit

 

[Pirate Queen]

Why would Sanji poison the cake? Hasn't anyone read the Baratie Arc? Anything regarding Sanji? His flashback? Jeez. If Sanji did poison the cake, it'd have hurt his character in best case scenario, given he's NEVER been about that. Also pretty sure Luffy would not have forgiven Sanji for poisoning Big Mom either, especially given how Luffy's all about man-to-man fights.

holy shit

Agreed. It literally goes against the soul of his character

 

[M3J]

And on top of that, you have people blaming him for Germa, Jinbei, and the Sun Pirates' predicament at the end of Whole Cake Island, completely ignoring the fact that he saved the Germa and Jinbei's lives. Like, let's just ignore everything about Sanji so we can portray him in a bad light!!

 

[Pirate Queen]

And on top of that, you have people blaming him for Germa, Jinbei, and the Sun Pirates' predicament at the end of Whole Cake Island, completely ignoring the fact that he saved the Germa and Jinbei's lives. Like, let's just ignore everything about Sanji so we can portray him in a bad light!!

Yeah, Luffy and Company literally fucked with a Yonko inside their own territory... There was no way that was ending without sacrifices.

 

[M3J]

And you gotta remember, the crew was in that position because they had to wait for Luffy, who chose to go back and fight Katakuri just to advance a skill that wouldn't help him beat a Yonkou. Sanji on top of saving the crew also managed to help save Luffy after he came out of the Mirror World.

 

[Pirate Queen]

And you gotta remember, the crew was in that position because they had to wait for Luffy, who chose to go back and fight Katakuri just to advance a skill that wouldn't help him beat a Yonkou. Sanji on top of saving the crew also managed to help save Luffy after he came out of the Mirror World.

Is that how you see it? That's interesting. I never saw it from that angle @M3J

This is how I took it.

Katakuri HAD to be defeated if they had any chance to escape BM's territory. He was far more dangerous than an emaciated Big Mom because he would have foreseen every attempt to evade the full forces of Big Mom.

This option presented itself... Luffy could have thrown Katakuri in the Mirror world and just knocked out Brulee to ensure Katakuri was trapped.

Now here's the problem with that, what if at any time Brulee woke up and faked still being passed out? Katakuri could have found a way to escape through another mirror? Nothing guaranteed Luffy would have had enough focus to KEEP Brulee passed with trying to stop Big Mom from attacking them and they were being chased for HOURS. Brulee could have woken up at any time.

No, I'm sure Katakuri had to be stopped before they could escape.

Just imagine a crazed Big Mom chasing them with a future seeing Sweet Commander walking beside her... Chances of escape 0%

That why the story had to go that way.

Excuse my off topic-ness, I just thought your thought process was interesting.

 

[Shasha23]

And on top of that, you have people blaming him for Germa, Jinbei, and the Sun Pirates' predicament at the end of Whole Cake Island, completely ignoring the fact that he saved the Germa and Jinbei's lives. Like, let's just ignore everything about Sanji so we can portray him in a bad light!!

HELLO all those events are his fault, if he trusted more and believed in his crew none of that would have happened!!!

 

[Pirate Queen]

HELLO all those events are his fault, if he trusted more and believed in his crew none of that would have happened!!!

Sanji was being threatened by a Yonko. Get real. What did you want him to do? Ignore her and trust his crew? To what? Fight off a Yonko head on? lol Ask Luffy how Sanji putting faith in him would have made any difference against the might of a Yonko....

 

[Shasha23]

Sanji was being threatened by a Yonko. Get real. What did you want him to do? Ignore her and trust his crew? To what? Fight off a Yonko head on? lol Ask Luffy how Sanji putting faith in him would have made any difference against the might of a Yonko....

So he is not anymore, whats the difference from her threads then from now? if he waited for Luffy like the others said none of this would have happened and that's a fact, OMG even he says this to Luffy..........you in denial of facts or something?
So when Sanji came back he didnt put his faith in Luffy then?

I guess you didn't understand the conversation Luffy had with Sanji after eating his food!

 

[Pirate Queen]

So he is not anymore, whats the difference from her threads then from now? if he waited for Luffy like the others said none of this would have happened and that's a fact, OMG even he says this to Luffy..........you in denial of facts or something?
So when Sanji came back he didnt put his faith in Luffy then?

I guess you didn't understand the conversation Luffy had with Sanji after eating his food!

He did have time to wait for Luffy, tf? Luffy didnt get there til days later.

He was getting threatened by Bege presently. He wasn't given the choice to wait around for his captain to have a group dicussion. The shock values alone was enough for Sanji to make a rapid decision to leave to protect his family and crew.

Big Mom's threat was for Sanji to attend the Tea Party or else she would send Sanji Zeff's head.

The Baratie was continued to be threatend by Germa 6 after tamago told Judge about Zeff and the others that Sanji considered family... To keep Sanji in line. Judge vowed to not threaten the Baratie as a thank you to Sanji after he saved them.

Outside of the Tea Party attendance, Big Mom didnt care about threatening Zeff and now her focus is entirely on Luffy.


You fundamentally don't understand One Piece and it becoming evident with each passing discussion with you.

 

[Shasha23]

He did have time to wait for Luffy, tf? Luffy didnt get there til days later.

He was getting threatened by Bege presently. He wasn't given the choice to wait around for his captain to have a group dicussion. The shock values alone was enough for Sanji to make a rapid decision to leave to protect his family and crew.

Big Mom's threat was for Sanji to attend the Tea Party or else she would send Sanji Zeff's head.

The Baratie was continued to be threatend by Germa 6 after tamago told Judge about Zeff and the others that Sanji considered family... To keep Sanji in line. Judge vowed to not threaten the Baratie as a thank you to Sanji after he saved them.

Outside of the Tea Party attendance, Big Mom didnt care about threatening Zeff and now her focus is entirely on Luffy.


You fundamentally don't understand One Piece and it becoming evident with each passing discussion with you.

Luffy made 2 days before the tea party, by the time Sanji left Luffy was a day or 2 away!

He had a choice to escape and didnt, he choose to go with them because he didnt trust his nakama enough because he became scared of a yonko

Had he trusted Luffy from beginning he would have handled it, but he didnt and choose to betray his captain.

Had he trusted Luffy enough at that time, Luffy would have probably gone to the tea party to tell off Linlin since he is that type of person, you think Luffy would have taken it from anyone threatening close people to his nakama?

The reason Sanji came back was because he trusted in Luffy to handle everything and Luffy did, had he done this from beginning none of this would have happened, the reason Oda still hasnt got the crew all in same place is because the issue is not over yet, since he hasn't been punished for his betrayal!

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

since sanji doesn't use his black pants or black shoes in Wano, it seemed like this would be a good chance to see if sanji also can use hardened haki

 

[afromarco005]

Why would Sanji poison the cake? Hasn't anyone read the Baratie Arc? Anything regarding Sanji? His flashback? Jeez. If Sanji did poison the cake, it'd have hurt his character in best case scenario, given he's NEVER been about that. Also pretty sure Luffy would not have forgiven Sanji for poisoning Big Mom either, especially given how Luffy's all about man-to-man fights.

holy shit

Bege should have poisoned it without telling Sanji this way:

• respects sanji's character, he would never kill someone who starves evenless so with food
• respect Bege's character cunning and ready to use all means possible to achieve his goals
• Kills or at leasts incapacitates Big mom for way longer than the taste alone = Jimbe, Alladin and germa able to get away from whole cake