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Not necessarily his upbringing, but by the time they leave Volantis and land in the stormlands, they pretty much run roughshod over everyone. He already has taken Storm's End, Doran Martell sends Arianne to meet him because he plans to ally Dorne with him, and is going to meet the forces of Mace Tyrell early on in TWOW.Ah, right, aegon is allegedly rhaegar's son. I keep confusing cousins siblings and aunts in that family. From what I have found around not even targaryan is able to become a dragonrider and even dany's fire resistance is situational at best. I am not sure if his plot line is easy so far. He traveled half of essos only to be told dany likely won't give two shits about him. And is now on his way back hoping lords rally behind him because of his possibly heritage. realistically speaking its an all around bad plan that has a non zero chance of working. but if it does it has some interesting implications.
Maybe fused in the sense that he's a secret Targaryen, but not much else I guess. Dany isn't going to learn of Jon's heritage before hearing about Aegon's exploits. The moment she comes back to civilization from the Dothraki Sea, she's probably going to hear about what he's done.Agreed, I don't think jon will be aegon in the books either. Its way too much of a dick move and it serves no real purpose. My first idea on this was that in the tv show they kinda fused jon and would be aegon but I am not sure if that makes sense at this point. Fusion would imply that tv show jon serves the purpose of two different aegons but it doesn't seem like tv show jon has done stuff which would fit with aegon. I suppose this makes more sense as a nod than anything else. If in the show rhaegar's kids weren't named then its not actually weird that jon's original name was aegon at least.
I totally agree. Everything in this season was amazing such as acting, choreography, cinematography, music etc but the writing was horrible. Which is tragic because the writing is the most important part imo.I'd say the majority of the aspects of the show are pretty good to great. That's what makes it so disappointing that D&D failed so miserably at writing it. And it's probably part of the reason why so many fans didn't really notice the writing going down the shitter until this season. because it was that bad and the other aspects of the show could cover for the less blatantly obviously writing fails.
There's still things I would nitpick with acting and choreography though, but that wasn't limited to just the latter seasons. Like, I don't understand why all examples of spear/staff fighting in the show had to employ a wushu or asian style. Oberyn Martell and Arya this season are examples of that. It's like the fight choreographers and stunt doubles had no experience with anything else, or just thought it looked cool. Given that Westeros is an analogue for medieval Europe, it always felt really out of place in the show. I also didn't like Arthur Dayne fighting with two swords in the Tower of Joy flashback either. Examples of dual-wielding are shown almost exclusively in asian martial arts and dueling/fencing. Someone in plate armor isn't going to be using another sword in their offhand, it's almost certainly going to be a shield if he's fighting against multiple enemies. That fight looked awkward and pretty anachronistic to me. If you wanted to show off Dayne's legendary prowess as a fighter, having him do all that with a longsword and choreographing it well would have been 10x more impressive to me.I totally agree. Everything in this season was amazing such as acting, choreography, cinematography, music etc but the writing was horrible. Which is tragic because the writing is the most important part imo.
Not really, it was written poorly and Dany clearly thought she was doing the right thing and wouldn't listen to otherwise. If you look at her behavior and think of her like a nutjob, their actions make perfect sense. The problem is it was rushed as hell and came from nowhere.but it also made it everything look weird because neither Jon nor Tyrion tried to understand why Dany did what she did. It was just "oh she's mad and razed a city to the ground, let's kill her!"
He had a history with public drunkenness before this, not really surprisingOh and it's been revealed that Kit Harington checked himself into a luxury rehab center to deal with his depression (?) and alcoholism because of GoT ending.
But often Dany was more receptive and listened better. The exception I can remember is when she had the Tarlys burned. "Rushed as hell" is an understatement as well, everything felt way too quick.Not really, it was written poorly and Dany clearly thought she was doing the right thing and wouldn't listen to otherwise. If you look at her behavior and think of her like a nutjob, their actions make perfect sense. The problem is it was rushed as hell and came from nowhere.
He had a history with public drunkenness before this, not really surprising
Even if the reason for dany burning down kings landing wasn't her being batshit crazy for coco puffs.... why would anyone bother trying to understand what they were? What could dany possibly say to justify what happened at kings landing? Dany burned kings landing after it had already surrendered. Dany burned a city that already belonged to her. Heck, the fighting between armies actually restarted because she started burning her city.I thought it was clear that they didn't really care and just wanted to rush while trying to keep what shock value they could. Though at least they made a decent decision in killing off Jorah along with Missandei to make Dany want revenge, but it also made it everything look weird because neither Jon nor Tyrion tried to understand why Dany did what she did. It was just "oh she's mad and razed a city to the ground, let's kill her!"
Oh and it's been revealed that Kit Harington checked himself into a luxury rehab center to deal with his depression (?) and alcoholism because of GoT ending.
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Because of their love for Dany and understanding of who she was (someone who wanted to break the wheel and bring peace to the land)? Not to mention, the losses she faced.Even if the reason for dany burning down kings landing wasn't her being batshit crazy for coco puffs.... why would anyone bother trying to understand what they were? What could dany possibly say to justify what happened at kings landing? Dany burned kings landing after it had already surrendered. Dany burned a city that already belonged to her. Heck, the fighting between armies actually restarted because she started burning her city.
Hasn't the guy been a violent drunkard for years now?
Same until he became One-Eyed Raven and became quite... apathetic. The last scene with Meera made me think he would not be a good ruler.If you remember, Bran is the first chapter in A Game of Thrones. His father also talks to him about how to be a good ruler, etc. So as much as it wasn't obvious to most beforehand, I could buy Bran becoming King somehow.
Before that I wasn't really convinced that Bran would ever leave the Weirwood cave though. Perhaps he has someone else's body... like Jon's.
I think Dany going evil will be in the books, and didn't Gary list the factors that would start her downward spiral? Didn't D&D or articles say that they know a plot that'll be in the books and will include that in the show?TBH I don't specifically object to bran being king. Or dany going insane. Both things are within the scope of what martin could do in the books IMO. The problem is how the tv show executed this. Anyways, when I read the series I honestly don't care about who ends up in the throne. I don't even find that to be so important in general. I mean, it is an important plot point but from reading the books I don't get that this whole thing is about who sits in the damn chair.
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Something which I'd note hasn't been all that much discussed is that the GOT finale basically shows the end of the stark line. As in, starks are pretty much extinct. If sansa is crowned queen then her kids will not be starks, they will belong to whichever other line. Specially considering that john, the last potential legitimate stark, went of to live as a wildling for a whole bunch of indefensibly stupid reasons. So.... there's that.
If Sansa is queen she could do whatever she wanted. Marry Harry the Heir and name their kids Starks, who knows. She could legitimize Jon too. It was passed over in the show, but that was Robb's intention when he was at war, just in case anything happened to him. It was at a point where Bran and Rickon were thought dead, and no one knew what became of Arya. He sent Maege Mormont and Galbart Glover with letters up The Neck with after mentioning this. It's one of those unresolved things still in the books, not sure what will come of it.Something which I'd note hasn't been all that much discussed is that the GOT finale basically shows the end of the stark line. As in, starks are pretty much extinct. If sansa is crowned queen then her kids will not be starks, they will belong to whichever other line. Specially considering that john, the last potential legitimate stark, went of to live as a wildling for a whole bunch of indefensibly stupid reasons. So.... there's that.
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That's just shit writing honestly IMOSame until he became One-Eyed Raven and became quite... apathetic. The last scene with Meera made me think he would not be a good ruler.
A king or queen could do whatever they wanted. Robb wanted to make Jon a Stark way back in Clash of Kings.Jon can't be a legitimate Stark as his mom married a Targaryen. Perhaps Arya on her adventure might find a way to make Bran's dick work again.