Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Ctkk]

I think we'll see two cancellations in the very near future and the other flops will end along Neverland around New Year.

 

[Leoat12]

I think the Beast Tokio Taisei trio is certain to be gone, which would open up for a 4 round serialization. Kamio Yui is a possibility seeing the recent developments, but not sure.

Well, I still think Beast Children will be in the magazine until the end of the Rugby World Cup, which is not far from happening, it would be 4 issues. They can even hold the round until there, by what I'm seeing in the three series they are not going to end smoothly in less than 2~3 weeks.
I will read Yui Kamio today and then I can judge whether the ending is close.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I'm guessing Taisei-Beast-Shinobi now, then Yui ends with Neverland a few months later.

 

[Ryuusei]

Just wait until people jump on the KNY hate-bandwagon and say it's the worst thing since Hitler. Anytime anything gets popular it automatically gets a hater base.

And so the circle of life (or of manga/anime fandom) continues.

TPN Color Spread

Posuka's art is just *chef kiss*. What a stunning spread.

Who are likely to become the winners?

MHA and KNY is the obvious answer with how bigger they are in the west right now.

For references, Kimetsu already beat My Hero Academia 2018 sales (remember that MHA got 2nd place last year: 6,718,185)

My prediction for 2020 is that Kimetsu will slow down a little, and with Haikyuu anime coming back in Winter plus MHA getting anime aired + movie, I'm betting on Haikyuu getting the silver medal next year, and MHA or Kimetsu the bronze medal, with Neverland getting out of the race.

I don't think HQ will overtake MHA next year. HQ is already selling 100k less within a month (though we still don't know if it will continue this trend, have to keep an eye on the upcoming volume) and I don't think the anime coming back will give it a significant boost. KNY's boost will surely slow down as we probably won't see any animated content until 2020, but it will remain one of the biggest sellers. My bet is OP > MHA > KNY > HQ in terms of overall sales. I'm not including TPN since I think it will be done by the middle of the year, but the volumes will most likely keep selling more than HQ's.

Wonder what Jujutsu's boost will look like after it gets its anime?

Hopefully, it's a good boost. I want the series to explode in popularity.

 

[Jovan]

Issue 46. In other words...just over a week.

Yep, to match Mitama and Yozakura ID numberings with the rest. Those two will have it's 4th IDs this week, the rest will be at 5th ones, then all will reset for the next ID batch.

 

[Ctkk]

In the most hilarious timeline, Yuuna decides to end and Kamio Yui escapes the axe once again.

 

[Leoat12]

There is no "hate-bandwagon", there is a series getting popular and more people realizing it exists. The probability of finding people who don't like it is greater. It is just Statistics. Anybody has the right to like or dislike anything and comment about it, people that get offended by that and want to shut down people's opinions is what should review their concepts. We are talking about manga series, not their families. XD

 

[animeexpert]

Illustrations by Oda Eiichiro, Horikoshi Kohei, Tabata Yuki & Miura Tadahiro Commemorating the Conclusion of Shokugeki no Soma

Aah, was such a good manga till that distaster of the last arc had to happen. They really had to go with the brother arc idea..

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Another JJK CP. Great!, gives more hope for an anime announcement soon and finally will gets it lead covers after

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I mean,

-Hero Academia cover next issue
-Hero Academia 2nd spinoff special chapter
-Potentially Hero Academia cover in December again for the movie
-4th popularity poll results soon
-Anime S4
-Movie 2
-3 manga spinoffs (one of them has already 60 chapters, and other one ended with like +100 chapters).
-2 databooks
-4 light novels

Do you guys think Hero Academia has became the main 2010s Jump franchise? I mean, is the manga of this decade with the most manga spinoffs and movies, and in Jump collab covers you see how without counting Luffy, Deku is the most important character in these covers (with Hinata).

I mean, it already proof itself right. So why not

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people can like or hate a series for their own personal reasons or for no reason at all, some can come to dislike a series after some time, or to follow it forever.

I myself don't let other people or other external affect my enjoyment of a series, nor dictate other on why and how the should enjoy/hate a series.

I sometimes would give suggestions for series I enjoy and have other people or other external factors direct me to new series that I could potentially enjoy.

if people enjoyed a series I don't like, i can understand it, and if a person hated a series i like i can understand it.

no series is perfect because nothing is.

I would correct people on the factual objectives aspect, but anything subjective is ultimately up to their own, I can give my opinion on it but that's it. I can't & won't force my opinion to others so they would agree with me.

ultimately I don't care about others and let me myself and others be themselves. I would still change over time since I'm still human & my opinion on some series/aspects of a series can change in the future.

but hey, that is just my opinion at the moment

You right, like with sao. Funny enough it was the most populair thing to hate on it after its end on season 1, but it was exactly the show that broke the industry and opened the door for its successors of its genre (isekai) and inspired on what we have today. Now every of its genre does the exact thing or just make it a gag/comedy. Sorry I did go off topic, but what mangAniMy said it really something that Everyone should get a grip.

But also this. as consumer you mostly want something seeing evolve to keep enjoying what u love, it depends of its genre and how repetitive something can be. Or controversial things as harems, but that's something for another time. Back to jump,

 

[101nemesis]

Interview with Kubo? I'm most excited for that. Wanna know what he's been upto and if he has plans to return.

There is no "hate-bandwagon", there is a series getting popular and more people realizing it exists. The probability of finding people who don't like it is greater. It is just Statistics. Anybody has the right to like or dislike anything and comment about it, people that get offended by that and want to shut down people's opinions is what should review their concepts. We are talking about manga series, not their families. XD

Band-wagoning is definitely something that exists tho. If its "cool" to like some stuff, it's cool to hate other stuff. Happens all the time.

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The movie industry is a lot different from the manga industry though.

But he means records can be broken. Take the music industry and how the highest debut for an album was not broken for almost 20 years and then came Adele's 25 and shattered that record. Or how in tennis people said Pete Sampras's record of 14 Grand slams cannot be broken by any other man and then came Roger Federer and broke it in less than 10 years. And now we have three players who are still playing who sit multiple slams above that number with no intention of slowing down.
If records can be made, they can most definitely be broken.

 

[Xzone]

Aah, was such a good manga till that distaster of the last arc had to happen. They really had to go with the brother arc idea..

Aizen's wanabee arc was also a disaster.
The Food detective arc was the only decent thing after the father appear.

 

[Ebrietas-]

But he means records can be broken. Take the music industry and how the highest debut for an album was not broken for almost 20 years and then came Adele's 25 and shattered that record. Or how in tennis people said Pete Sampras's record of 14 Grand slams cannot be broken by any other man and then came Roger Federer and broke it in less than 10 years. And now we have three players who are still playing who sit multiple slams above that number with no intention of slowing down.
If records can be made, they can most definitely be broken.

I think the main problem with a potential future series surpassing One Piece's total sales is that not only it would need to sell 2-3 million copies per volume, it would also have to go on for more than 100 volumes just like OP.

 

[101nemesis]

I think the main problem with a potential future series surpassing One Piece's total sales is that not only it would need to sell 2-3 million copies per volume, it would also have to go on for more than 100 volumes just like OP.

Sure. It has to meet certain conditions to help it achieve that number. Its going to be extremely hard to accomplish but, it's not impossible. Usually the achievements of today's generation will often be the inspiration for future generations to beat them.

 

[Leoat12]

I read Tokyo Shinobi Squad, Yui Kamio and We Never Learn on my way to work and I stand with my opinion about the former two that I don't think they will end in the coming weeks, I think they even can survive the next round easily by the way things are going.
We Never Learn looks like it is going to end before those two.

 

[Kolbe]

So, next week we will have Yokazura's first ranking. As we won't have a poll about it (probably) as we will be occupied with the Samurai 8 stuff, how well you think it will go? Personally, I think it will be in the midtier

 

[Brizzi]

So, next week we will have Yokazura's first ranking. As we won't have a poll about it (probably) as we will be occupied with the Samurai 8 stuff, how well you think it will go? Personally, I think it will be in the midtier

I'm betting on the midtier, too.

I'm really liking Yozakura and I see no reason why the series would be a failure right now.
It's my second favourite series from the lot that debuted in 2019 (the number 1 was Sayuki, even with its problems) and I really think the mangaka is checking and accomplishing all the necessary points for a series to estabilish itself.

 

[Jovan]

So, next week we will have Yokazura's first ranking. As we won't have a poll about it (probably) as we will be occupied with the Samurai 8 stuff, how well you think it will go? Personally, I think it will be in the midtier

Middle at the beginning then drops to just above Yui, and TSS Taisei Beast trio.

 

[Leoat12]

There isn't much space at the top so midtier and I don't think it will go below that anytime soon.

 

[Stivie]

Amazon rankings for upcoming JUMP releases.

HINOMARU ZUMOU #27 rank
#655

S8 # 1 rank
#1608

S8 #2 rank
#1726

Spy x Family #2 rank
#74

OP #94 rank
#3

JJK #7 rank
#134

CSM #4 rank
#204

KNY #17 rank
#5

TPN # 16 rank
#45

Boruto #7 rank
#174

BC #22 rank
#183

SOMA #36 rank
#122

Yuuna #18 rank
#335

 

[MangAniMY]

I won't vote in the s8 poll since i don't care what any series would or should do, but I say change it to what is yozakura position after the scans drop the earliest since that would still be before any day 1 stats drop,

and the fact that 46 will be a Saturday issue so toc leaks should be earlier.

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Amazon rankings for upcoming JUMP releases.

HINOMARU ZUMOU #27 rank
#655

S8 # 1 rank
#1608

S8 #2 rank
#1726

Spy x Family #2 rank
#74

OP #94 rank
#3

JJK #7 rank
#134

CSM #4 rank
#204

KNY #17 rank
#5

TPN # 16 rank
#45

Boruto #7 rank
#174

BC #22 rank
#183

SOMA #36 rank
#122

Yuuna #18 rank
#335

lol, manual...

Also, i would assume physical and in the graphic novels and comic books section since not specified

 

[Leoat12]

Well, it is not conclusive enough, let's wait the official numbers to conclude that we were right.