Games Top Ten Game - Interim Round 105: Top 10 Hottest video games female characters

Faust · Oct 9, 2018

Schedule

Current :

Interim Round 105
Hottest Female Video Game Characters
Host: @Erinyes

On Hold :
Worst Tropes in Anime/Manga/Light Novel
Host: zimbardo

Note: The schedule could still be changed/re-arranged depending on the hosts' availability.

Host:
@Erinyes

Artist Characters

Badass Video Game Characters

Slice of Life Anime/Manga/LN

Host:
@Purity of Magi

Magi Characters

Whey They Cry Characters

Chainsaw Man Characters
Host: @Gajeel

Haikyuu Characters
Host: @Holt

Video Game Characters [Remake]
Host: @Sky

Dads/Father Figures
Host: @z.5

'Big 3' Music Rounds
Host: @Xadyu

Anime Pandas
Host: @Copy Panda

Tokyo Revengers Characters
Host: @Hermit

Interim Rounds
#01: Animated Shows Host: @Faust
#02: Animes Host: @Faust
#03: Music Bands/Groups Host: @Faust
#04: Music Duos Host: @Faust
#05: Music Artists Host: @Faust
#06: Anime OPs Host: @Faust
#07: Anime EDs Host: @Faust
#08: Anime OSTs Host: @Faust
#09: Anime Fights Host: @Faust
#10: Anime Groups Host: @Faust
#11: Anime Moves Host: @Faust
#12: Anime Duos Host: @Faust
#13: Anime Movies Host: @Faust
#14: Manga Series Host: @Faust
#15: Music Videos Host: @Faust
#16: Animated Movies Host: @Faust
#17: Video Games Host: @Faust
#18: Mangakas Host: @Faust
#19: Manga Characters Who Lived Up to the Hype Host: @Faust
#20: Most Sad Anime Moments Host: @Faust
#21: Anime Senseis Host: @Faust
#22: Video Game Duos Host: @Faust
#23: Anime Leaders Host: @Faust
#24: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Swordwielders Host: @Faust
#25: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Marks(wo)men Host: @Faust
#26: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Athletes Host: @Faust
#27: Video Game Villains Host: @Faust
#28: Animated (Non-Anime) Villains Host: @Faust
#29: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Villains Host: @Faust
#30: Underappreciated Anime Series Host: @Faust
#31: Underappreciated Animated Films Host: @Faust
#32: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Rivals/Archnemeses Host: @Faust
#33: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Romantic Pairings Host: @Faust
#34: Anime/Manga/Light Novel featuring Physical/Mental Disablities/Illness Host: @Faust
#35: Anime Full Soundtrack Host: @Faust
#36: Super Smash Bros. Fighter Suggestions Host: @Faust
#37: Animals Host: zimbardo
#38: Sci-Fi Movies Host: @Faust
#39: Type-Moon Characters Host: @Faust
#40: Countries with Best Cuisine Host: zimbardo
#41: Anime/Manga/Light Novel Characters That You Want To See Go All Out Host: @Faust
#42: Animal Crossing New Horizons Villagers Host: @Ustegius
#43: Dragon Ball Characters Host: @Faust
#44: One Piece Characters Host: @Faust
#45: Naruto Characters Host: @syx
#46: Bleach Characters Host: zimbardo
#47: Female Lead Characters [Anime/Manga/LN/VN] Host: @Brandish μ
#48: Parents/Guardians [Anime/Manga/LN/VN] Host: @Faust
#49: Fullmetal Alchemist Characters Host: @Purity of Magi
#50: Boku no Hero Academia Characters Host: @Hermit
#51: JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Characters Host @GrySun
#52: Secondary Characters [Anime/Manga/LN/VN] Host: @revo
#53: Best Story Arcs [Anime/Manga/LN/VN] Host: @Faust
#54: Kimetsu no Yaiba Characters Host: @revo
#55: Anime Hair Host: @Evil3ye
#56: Gintama Characters Host: @Gryffindor
#57: Black Clover Characters Host: @Juviii
#58: Tensais Host: @Erinyes
#59: Waifus Host: @SirSamuel016
#60: Manga Artworks Host: @revo
#61: Hunter x Hunter Characters Host: @Nii
#62: Yū Yū Hakusho Characters Host: @Faust
#63: Pokémon Host: @Evil3ye
#64: Inspiring Characters Host: @desin24
#65: Shokugeki no Sōma Characters Host: @Tatsumaki
#66: Shingeki no Kyojin Characters Host: @Farfalla
#67: Stylish Characters Host: @Erinyes
#68: Husbandos Host: @revo
#69: Fairy Tail Characters Host: @Brandish μ
#70: Dr. Stone Characters Host: @Hermit
#71: Jujutsu Kaisen Characters Host: @Nii
#72: Romantic Scenes in Manga(wha) Host: @Erinyes
#73: Brawlers Host: @Faust
#74: Anime OST Composers Hosts: @Farfalla and @MArGi
#75: Video Game+Visual Novel OST Composers Hosts: @Farfalla and @MArGi
#76: Badass Male Characters - Host: @Erinyes
#77: Badass Female Characters - Host: @Erinyes
#78: Nanatsu no Taizai Characters - Host: @Hermit
#79: Manga/LN/VN That Need An Anime - Host: @Brandish μ
#80: Eurovision 2022 - Host: @Riku
#81: Female Mangaka - Host: @Erinyes
#82: Fate Characters - Host: @Nii
#83: Best Character Designs (Male) - Host: @Erinyes
#84: Best Character Designs (Female) - Host: @Erinyes
#85: Annoying Characters - Host: @Evil3ye
#86: Voice Actors (Seiyū) - Host: @Farfalla
#87: Video Game Character Designs (Male) - Host @Erinyes
#88: Video Game Character Designs (Female) - Host @Erinyes
#89: Eurovision 2023 - Host: @Riku
#90: Feel Good Slices of Life Anime/Manga/Light Novel - Host: @Erinyes
#91: Kingdom Characters - Host: @MArGi
#92: Anime OPs (Remake) - Host; @Erinyes

ON HOLD
#??: Worst Tropes in Anime/Manga/Light Novel - Host: @z.5
#??: Massively Multiplayer Online Games (MMOs)
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Video games in terms of story
Villains you wish had won [Anime/Manga/LN/VN]

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syx · Jun 15, 2020

Copy Panda said:
Playerlist contains like half of everyone on here I know lol

Organizized said:
Jfc 45 participants?

GrySun said:
Syx's milkshake brings all the boys to the Top10 game I guess

Let us take a moment to thank @desin24, @Farfalla, and @Purity of Magi for pumping up the number to 48.

By the way. I'm doing okay. Thanks for asking.

Brandish μ · Jun 15, 2020

Purity of Magi's list - Sakura, Hinata, Sasuke, Obito, Kaguya, Kabuto, Sasuke x Sakura, Hashirama's DNA, Sage of the Six Paths, and Boruto?

Purity of Magi · Jun 15, 2020

Hi @Raven @Asako @MarmaladeSky @Lambu @Vandred

Professor Purity of Magi speaking here. This is not a reminder of the survey, in fact this is about something else that I would like to share with you guys that the acadamy has organized together with our dear contributive @main host. I will keep it a bit informal.

According to one of our extern partner data that is currently publicaly available, it seems you guys have not joined this 10 top list round of Naruto, which is hosted by our extern partner itself, yet. Therefore, I want to inform you, if you were not aware about this event, that the deadline is today in case if you are still interested to join this wonderful and interesting event. Our extern partner will assure you that you will not be disappointed, and what to give you a chance to still join this top 10 Naruto list event with us. Therefore, on our extern partner behave, he hopes that you will participate so that his data of the participations and the list itself, will occure a bit more of a ''surprise effect'' then he already has.

Hopefully, with your participation the round will be even more enjoyable then it already is. In case you are not interested to join this top 10 round of Naruto, there is always the top 10 round of Bleach which will be next. Also, in case you know other members that would love to participate to join in this round, then please, do not hestistate to tag them. Our extern partner welcomes a lot of members and enjoys to proceed the result procces of everyones list. For more information about this event, please do not hestitate to contact our extern partner.

I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Our extern partner certainly look forward to your participation, hopefully.

''Remember that respect, communication and equality are key. Effectiveness and efficiency are needed for the process. Reliability and to be in compliance are a must for keeping balance.''

Yours truly,

Purity of Magi
Professor of The University of Purity | CEO of the foundation P.o.M.
Witch of Purifaction and Miracles on Planet Purity of Magi
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M3J · Jun 15, 2020

Organizized said:
The fillers are skippable though.

But tbh there are a couple of enjoyable filler arcs (G-8 for example is pretty universally loved) and some episodes here and there which is stuff Oda cut from the manga. Plus the parts that tie in with the movies and stuff if you're gonna watch those. For better or worse I'm going to just watch everything if I rewatch the anime.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 15, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 15, 2020 ---

One Piece Filler List | The Ultimate Anime Filler Guide

One Piece is the story of Monkey D. Luffy who became a rubber man after accidently eating a Devil Fruit. In his quest, Luffy builds his crew and continues on his adventure to find the mysterious treasure One Piece.

www.animefillerlist.com

A list of what is and isn't canon in the anime if you wanna skip the other stuff.

Ah thanks!

Naruto's still popular even after all these years :')

syx · Jun 15, 2020

Purity of Magi said:
Hi @Raven @Asako @MarmaladeSky @Lambu @Vandred

Professor Purity of Magi speaking here. This is not a reminder of the survey, in fact this is about something else that I would like to share with you guys that the acadamy has organized together with our dear contributive @main host. I will keep it a bit informal.

According to one of our extern partner data that is currently publicaly available, it seems you guys have not joined this 10 top list round of Naruto, which is hosted by our extern partner itself, yet. Therefore, I want to inform you, if you were not aware about this event, that the deadline is today in case if you are still interested to join this wonderful and interesting event. Our extern partner will assure you that you will not be disappointed, and what to give you a chance to still join this top 10 Naruto list event with us. Therefore, on our extern partner behave, he hopes that you will participate so that his data of the participations and the list itself, will occure a bit more of a ''surprise effect'' then he already has.

Hopefully, with your participation the round will be even more enjoyable then it already is. In case you are not interested to join this top 10 round of Naruto, there is always the top 10 round of Bleach which will be next. Also, in case you know other members that would love to participate to join in this round, then please, do not hestistate to tag them. Our extern partner welcomes a lot of members and enjoys to proceed the result procces of everyones list. For more information about this event, please do not hestitate to contact our extern partner.

I hope to have informed you sufficiently. Our extern partner certainly look forward to your participation, hopefully.

''Remember that respect, communication and equality are key. Effectiveness and efficiency are needed for the process. Reliability and to be in compliance are a must for keeping balance.''

Yours truly,

Purity of Magi
Professor of The University of Purity | CEO of the foundation P.o.M.
Witch of Purifaction and Miracles on Planet Purity of Magi
Self portrait:

Dilid dis shid, @zimbard or @Brandish μ

TYVM!

Aurelius · Jun 15, 2020

zimbard said:
(were all the elite people out of Konoha at the time of the 9 tails attack)?

Danzo made sure it wasn't 100% :teehee

zimbard said:
Also, I see no reason why the Raikage can't use those tools, if Minato is allowed to use his tools (his special kunai) or Gamabunta summon - it isn't like he [the Raikage] didn't have access to them, when needed
Facts are that:
The Raikage managed multiple times to 'beat' the 8 tails - and one time, it appears from the manga that he did it by himself
The 8 tailed beast could never hurt the 3rd Raikage and we have no direct evidence (other than pure speculation at how much the 9 tails appeared more powerful in the war arc) that the 9 tails could either

We also have no idea, so it's not really a very solid foundation for a point, that Kumogakure didn't have other methods for sealing the 8 tails. The So6Ps tools were just incredibly useful/powerful, so of course they'd use them normally. I reckon most villages have access to high level sealing abilities (in the same way I feel most have access to high level genjutsu abilities) due to how useful they are.

All (heh) the Raikage has to do is be able to subdue the 9 tails to the point it can be sealed - like he did with the 8 tails - he doesn't have to destroy it

I think my point about his sealing was misunderstood, as now we're comparing sealing methods by the villages and use of tools. Now I have no problem of them using these methods as you said bc it's pragmatic. Though there's quite a distinction So6P tools to Minatos kunai.

Anyways, it was more towards the statement of the 3rd soloing the 9 tails. Yes, he sealed the 8 tails multiple times, but I'm not heavily considering this with regards to the hypothetical because it's not an individual feat and was using an op tool. His best feat is stalemating the 8 tails on his own and that story about his death facing all those shinobi. I see that you mentioned Minato as well, that's fair. He had support too and most likely wouldn't be able to last on his own against the 9 tails.

zimbard said:
We saw from the war arc that the 9 tails' power could fluctuate to a high level - I don't see the flashback 9 tails beating all the other 8 beasts

I'm considering both at their peaks here

zimbard said:
Why not? Because he got hurt (by himself) vs the 8 tails?
Perhaps all the other tailed beasts are super weak, rather than the 9 tails being so strong (no, I don't believe this - I think that this was just the usual inconsistent writing, used to introduce a few cool scenes into his dying story)

The fact that we don't for sure if kurama can't hurt the 3rd is fine. But, if we take the 3rd vs the 8 tails as a reference, Kurama would outlast the 3rd, healing and chakra reserves would be too much. As for sealing, the 3rd didn't do it on his own, he had support. Though we don't know if he can on his own, but we'll be going in circles.

zimbard said:
I'm not sure that I'd enjoy turning this hallowed thread into a battle thread

As much as I like battle discussion, you're right, let's agree to disagree.

Nii · Jun 15, 2020

A shame that this came in a little too late:

lakhan220 · Jun 15, 2020

Valhalla777 said:
I see
Kakashi Hiden?

Yeah ive been lacking in the novel department with Naruto.
Will probably check out several good ones, that have the vote of the people of course.

Yep, kakashi hiden. She is from there.
Moreover, itachi's are one of the best done. Have yet to read akatsuki one.

Jammin said:
So your talking anime then? Not manga. That sort of explains where this disconnect is. Because in the manga there is no trace of that as far as I can remember. As I recall she was main family right up until the end. Because even if Hanabi was the successor as long as Hinata's in that family, she is a member of the main branch right up until Hanabi became the head and a new split between main and branch begins.

None of this is Hinata's fault, to be clear. It's all unintended subtext. Like with Kakashi right? I doubt it was Kishi's intent for him to seem like a total asshole. But when he treats his masters orphaned child like an annoying nuisance that isn't worth his time. That's a big problem. The point of Neji's initial arc is that fate isn't fixed right? So there is literally one thing you can't do with him and that is have that fate actually occur and he must forgotten that he couldn't do it. I bet he was looking for somebody to do a heroic sacrifice in his war arc. Wanted someway for Hinata to at least appear once. And BAM Neji's dead with the worst subtext imaginable.

This all falls under the same category of shoddy writing.

Was combining both. Just like how hiashi lived in their house until he grew up and later wa branded with seal the moment, his bro became head, same is fate of hinata. Just because hiashi was living in main house does not mean he was part of it. Destined to be branch. Same with hinata. Tht was my point + death for same person, but not for same disposition.

:lmao

Kishi had saved neji to be used as a sacrifice later on. Always wondered, why didn't he throw paper bomb kunais or shurikens at those 3 branches.

BD_Beno said:
Hmmm, Danzo then . From the shadows, hack their accounts and remove the virus.

Wonder if anyone ranked him

U and ur obsession with danzo. Ffs, i meant using combo of minato,hashirama and madara.....like tht instead of just pain or naruto.

zimbard said:
Yes, it was perhaps a tad over the top to suggest that the 3rd Raikage could beat the 9 tails

However, the 9 tails power has been pretty inconsistent, in the manga.
Ranging from appearing more powerful than all the other tailed beasts, all the way to being able to be pinned by a giant frog, or by a ninjitsu ability

Now, we know that 9 tails jinchurichi have been made before and it has not been stated (as far as I recall) to be more difficult than for another tailed beast

Also, although I agree the 3rd Raikage might not be able to beat the 9 tails, I feel you guys might be underestimating him a bit

He showed he could chop off all of the 8 tailed beasts arms with his fingering technique (during a 'battle' where he wasn't trying to kill/destroy the 8 tails) [do I think he was holding back? No, probably not. But it's easier to fight to kill, then to incapacitate]

He also demonstrated that the 8 tails could not physically damage him

He also could fight the 8 tails to the point where they both collapsed from exhaustion

And he showed that he could recapture the 8 tails multiple times - I don't believe it was ever stated he wanted the 8 tails destroyed (it was a valuable asset, after all)

I'm afraid that nothing has shown him incapable of doing the same to the 9 tails - fighting it to the point where it could be sealed

so yes, even if the 3rd couldn't 'win', later showings in the manga do still reduce how impressive the 4th's showing vs the 9 tails was (and, by association, reducing how impressive [I feel] the 9 tails should be)

zimbard said:
Well, all tailed beasts are susceptible to Mangekyou hax/Hashirama's wood - though I don't believe it was ever mentioned that Uzumaki sealing techniques were especially good vs tailed beasts (I think it just looks that way because all of the jinchuriki for the 9 tails have been Uzumaki), even if they were a clan renowned for their sealing abilities

So the Raikage managed with fewer people (were all the elite people out of Konoha at the time of the 9 tails attack)?

Also, I see no reason why the Raikage can't use those tools, if Minato is allowed to use his tools (his special kunai) or Gamabunta summon - it isn't like he [the Raikage] didn't have access to them, when needed
Facts are that:
The Raikage managed multiple times to 'beat' the 8 tails - and one time, it appears from the manga that he did it by himself
The 8 tailed beast could never hurt the 3rd Raikage and we have no direct evidence (other than pure speculation at how much the 9 tails appeared more powerful in the war arc) that the 9 tails could either

We also have no idea, so it's not really a very solid foundation for a point, that Kumogakure didn't have other methods for sealing the 8 tails. The So6Ps tools were just incredibly useful/powerful, so of course they'd use them normally. I reckon most villages have access to high level sealing abilities (in the same way I feel most have access to high level genjutsu abilities) due to how useful they are.

All (heh) the Raikage has to do is be able to subdue the 9 tails to the point it can be sealed - like he did with the 8 tails - he doesn't have to destroy it

We saw from the war arc that the 9 tails' power could fluctuate to a high level - I don't see the flashback 9 tails beating all the other 8 beasts

Why not? Because he got hurt (by himself) vs the 8 tails?
Perhaps all the other tailed beasts are super weak, rather than the 9 tails being so strong (no, I don't believe this - I think that this was just the usual inconsistent writing, used to introduce a few cool scenes into his dying story)

I could easily say that I don't see Minato, on his own, being able to fight the 8 tails to the point where he can seal him

I hope that the listing starts soon - I reckon that, at this point, the convo might be getting a little too off topic...
From discussing how interesting characters are, to how powerful they are - and it seems pretty clear from Naruto that the more powerful a character is, the more interesting they certainly aren't

I'm not sure that I'd enjoy turning this hallowed thread into a battle thread

Same here, not really in mood for PL debates, but would like to address few points this once.
1-Was said during kushina and naruto interaction. Even among uzumakis, she had special chakra, for which she was chosen. Same was for MITO. So, they were always a tad special than other jins.
2-Hashirama had captured other tailed beasts, and had distributed them, but never went for kyuubi since it is so powerful, tht despite having multiple beasts, the village tht has kyuubi possess the greatest power. Things only changed post maddy used it.
3-The gedou mazou would not be able to handle the kyuubi's chakra and mazou would break, if he is sealed before other 8. U have to seal all other 8 first and then kyuubi to balance out the power. Certainly difference from other bijuus
4-Gmabunta's size was barely equal to kyuubi's mouth forming Bijuudama and he himself said, he can't hold him up much longer, just buying enough time for minato to teleport him.
5-Uzumaki village was destroyed because their sealing techs were feared and since the bijuus are at top, surely not far fetched to think their techs would have been developed with bijuus in mind. And the above kushina point. So, their sealing techs were effective on bijuus.
6-hachibi is like an octopus with not his tentacles being his strong attribute. Sasuke cut it pre sussano with a lightning sword. Obito cut multiples with fumma shuriken, all the while those every same shurikens were shattered to pieces by one tail cloaks of kyuubi tht other shinobi had.And kyuubi has blocked 2 sussano swords without even a dent in its tail. Definitely i don't consider raikage's 1 finger tech greater than the complete sussano's sword attacks.

Oh, btw, kyuubi himself cut the tail of hachibi with a single waving of its tail. Moroever, i don't think hachibi even uses tail as actively as kyuubi.
And complete kyuubi being multiple times bigger + double chakra reserves has already been mentioned, so don't see a point mentioning exactly how far at best raikage would be able to push him.
8-Sealing techs. Kinkaku and ginkaku too tried capturing kyuubi with multiple people and were unsuccessful.
Now, the sealing of bijuus took the akatsuki 8 shinobis 3 days to seal into mazou. And i m also counting the ones like sanbi who were captured readily, without having to extract.
Compare tht to minato. He took away half the power of kyuubi, sealed it in himself and in mere moments sealed the beast , which would rather have taken multiple days & delicate handling of chakra . It was same with hachibi''s sealing.

u can argue why minato didn't use ones like the ones on kushina or others without needing to sacrifice his life. Bee mentions it as strongest seal and also to keep mechanism where regularly kyuubi chakra leaks and naruto gets used to it slowly. Also the urgency of the situation at the time too.

And don't see why minato couldn't fight off hachibi when he can very easily redirect his strongest attacks, like with full kyuubi until obito got in the way + making a barrier strong enough not even to let bijuudama blast escape..

9- Btw, don't think hiruzen was tht weak tht if kyuubi's tails could be cut so easily, he would let him keep it and destroy things. If kyuubi's are same as hachibi, i do believe hiruzen was stronger than the sasuke who cut hachibi's tail + even could use all natures.
As for other elites, danzo kept them away and do not think others eliteness bar uchihas or senjus was gonna help them even remotely against kyuubi.

xi0 said:
This wasn't about Sasuke vs Naruto and whether their trauma was justified though. Plus, like some had mentioned, they retconned the shit out of this kind of thing to point where it made no sense. Plus, I don't really know how I would compare Naruto being neglected and treated like an outcast (not really) to your only living relative killing your entire clan right in front of you. They both kinda suck... Naruto just dealt with his better, probably because it was less traumatic.

I didn't say it made more sense, I said that the pathos involved makes it more interesting and relatable on some level. Well, except maybe the whole killing part. I wasn't endorsing their pairing after that point, and it's obvious they only ended up together at the end because EVERYONE had to be fucking and having OP kids for Boruto.

My point was sasuke had people he could have relied on and moved on, but naruto had none of tht at all. Sasuke made himself lonely by btrying to stay in tht trauma, but naruto was forced with no will of his own, only ill wills of others.

and my answer was to this

xi0 said:
Obsessively stalking and loving someone that you don't even talk to? Versus having affection for someone you bled with on the battlefield and pity because of their fucked up childhood? I don't know, I don't think Hinata really wins in that department either. That might make Sakura kind of hopeless as a person,

I don't think sakura was in anyways more relatable or justified than hinata's for points i had said. On the contrary, the dynamics for hinata made more sense than sakura, especially post the end of kages arc.

:catshrug

No tenten, kiba and shino.

syx · Jun 15, 2020

lakhan220 said:
Same here, not really in mood for PL debates, but would like to address few points this once.

lakhan220 · Jun 15, 2020

syx said:

said this once + never pulled panels.

Aurelius · Jun 15, 2020

lakhan220 said:
U and ur obsession with me. Ffs, i meant using combo of minato,hashirama and madara.....like tht instead of just pain or naruto.

^

Not my fault you got me reading the shinden novels to learn more about your ideologies.

Anyways, you seem to be going the Madara route on this, always a pleasure to see you in action and spittin fax about Naruto

lakhan220 · Jun 15, 2020

BD_Beno said:
^

Not my fault you got me reading the shinden novels to learn more about your ideologies.

Anyways, you seem to be going the Madara route on this, always a pleasure to see in you action and spittin fax about Naruto

This obsessive illusion. What am i gonna do abt it ?

Those shindens. And did u learn abt ideologies ?
LOL, was kinda in mood for it after quite a time. Naruto somehow gets things going.

Aurelius · Jun 15, 2020

lakhan220 said:
This obsessive illusion. What am i gonna do abt it ?

Accept it because it's reality. Until you acknowledge your true self, you'll always fail.

lakhan220 said:
Those shindens. And did u learn abt ideologies ?
LOL, was kinda in mood for it after quite a time. Naruto somehow gets things going.

I'm up to the part where Mukai's been assassinated. When I finish, I'll have my thoughts, but yes, Itachi and Danzo's have been most prevalent

xi0 · Jun 15, 2020

lakhan220 said:
My point was sasuke had people he could have relied on and moved on, but naruto had none of tht at all. Sasuke made himself lonely by btrying to stay in tht trauma, but naruto was forced with no will of his own, only ill wills of others.

Who though? It wasn't until he became a shinobi that he had much of that, same with Naruto. Naruto had no family and might have been neglected, but he didn't witness the genocide of his entire people by his brother's hand.

I mean, none of this was deftly written, but acting like Naruto was unequivocally worse off as a kid compared to Sasuke is kind of silly IMO. The difference in their behavior and attitude is the best evidence of that.

Jammin · Jun 15, 2020

lakhan220 said:
Was combining both. Just like how hiashi lived in their house until he grew up and later wa branded with seal the moment, his bro became head, same is fate of hinata. Just because hiashi was living in main house does not mean he was part of it. Destined to be branch. Same with hinata. Tht was my point + death for same person, but not for same disposition.

Kishi had saved neji to be used as a sacrifice later on. Always wondered, why didn't he throw paper bomb kunais or shurikens at those 3 branches.

Yeah, there is the problem right there. Your combining anime and manga. I'm not. I'm purely a manga reader.

All this stuff your talking about came from anime filler. Maybe with that setup it would be slightly more palatable. But that stuff isn't in the manga. Hinata is barely in the shippuden and there is certainly never any time spent on developing her. If I counted all the post timeskip chapters Kishi devoted to fleshing out her character on my fingers I'd be making a fist.

Which is why I was rather confused where you were getting all of that. Because Kishi devoting time and thought to a female character.... that's not the Naruto I read.