She seems rational, I always felt comfortable towards her without knowing much about her. But heck, Bringing her party to the center is insane feat, I liked that.
I feel like you don't really though. Conservative Reddit is different from real life and real conservatives you actually know, especially if you live in the US.
Exactly this. It's also annoying when the left are made to look intolerant for opposing bigotry, and the logic makes no sense.
Their "stable life" is something they do not actually want. The average American will routinely advocate for politicians and causes that ultimately go against their own best interests. This is frustrating enough, yet many go even further and scapegoat people and issues for their lives being shit, and that is why you have dangerous things like what happened last week.
If it is something they do not really want, why are they more aggressive since corona? Even before trump lost. They were not that aggressive before covid. At least not openly, not on street. And that happened at the same time when the BLM protest gained traction because people, similarly, were angrier than before. George Floyd was the trigger, but there was a protest in the making before.
This isn't a disagreement where you, say, believe the top tax bracket should be 45% and healthcare should be tax paid and your neighbor believes it should be a single 10% for every citizen and healthcare should go fuck itself. 2 people like that can be civil. They can have a beer together. They can even be best friends in between circlejerks. Instead what you have is one person who believes taxes should be a little higher for wealthier people and there should be slightly more social services and the other believes you are harvesting brain juices of the terrified children you are penetrating. You can't be civil to that person. You can't be friends with that person. You don't want to cross that person in a hallway. You can't shake that person's hands. You can't reason with that person. You can't pacify that person. This isn't a situation where "I disagree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it" applies. I mean, if you think your neighbor is raping children in a sex dungeon do you simply ignore it?
I keep trying to pound this point home in different ways, but "demilitarizing" speech or being less "radical" is a moot point when you consider what these people find radical in the first place. Or what they're willing to believe about humanity's current existence. The issue is we're not starting from the same point on either side of these issues at all.
This is why I find views like shio's beyond stupid and ignorant. Why would you want to encourage getting along with people who'd do something like this and refuse to listen to reason? Same people who went from "Blue Lives Matter!!" to killing one for not doing as they want? Same people who complained about being treated like Muslims or Black people or whatever when they were banned from airport travel?
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I honestly find this hard to believe. If you truly believe that, then you should support equity and quality for Black people, be against Muslim ban, and support equity for women as well.
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I think the next step for democrats needs to be to expand to the more rural states, like they did in georgia, with bolder strategies. Not all of them will work, but it is better than just losing with republican lights.
They can't do that when the Supreme Court rules that gerrymandering can't be argued in federal court. The GOP keeps a stranglehold in many rural places because of things like this and their efforts towards voter suppression.
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