These complaints make more sense if we don’t have an entire part of the arc dedicated to Luffy doing physical training without his DF and working on just that. I feel like the idea was that he was working on his base strength and speed and such and raising it to the next level. In addition to the fact that he’s a conqueror Haki specialist. So him getting this massive boost, that dwarfs what was shown in his other crew mates, I can rock with that. An he is still incorporating Gears 2&3, and I love how amazing they look.
Bro, we see character who are definitely BELOW in durability relative to beginning of Wano Luffy tanking hits from Kaido during the raid.
Scabbards tanked multiple attacks from Kaido.
Law
shrugged off a thunder bagua from hybrid Kaido. Zoro, who exhausted all his stamina and had many of his bones broken, got hit by thunder bagua from hybrid Kaido and was still conscious. Maybe you think rooftop Zoro and Law are tankier than beginning of Wano Luffy, but a LOT tankier? I doubt
Beginning of Wano G4 Luffy had stats comparable to Katakuri, and I don't think base Kaido can one shot Katakuri.
So base Luffy isn’t really just base Luffy. He has his gears 2 & 3 to use fluidly in a fight to match the situation. they arent his big trump cards anymore G4 is. & it has to be sparingly used because of the amount of Haki it takes up.
Actually, you're right.
He's not fighting in his "base".
Noticed it a lot clearer the second time I read it
Now add in ACoC & ACoA it should make sense why or how Luffy is competing with Kaido or anyone of his stature w/o G4.
I agree Luffy's conqueror's is in the same ballpark as that of Kaido. I see no issue in Luffy competing with him in that regard.
The issue is, without G4, I don't see how Luffy can compete with Kaido's speed and strength.
Advanced conq doesn't improve those.
While I agree with you, the fight between Aokiji and Akanui occurred during a time the New World was in chaos as a result of Whitebeards death. From everything we are told Akainu, once he took control moved swiftly to stabilize the New World.
Akainu wouldn't waste 10 whole days fighting Aokiji because he didn't want to go out. It is completely out of character for him. He is a character that moves quickly and decisively.
Oh yes, I definitely agree that some of these "lasted for x days" fights were fully serious.
Like you said, Aokiji and Akainu were serious. So were Jack and Cat/Dog
My point is that, this is an inconsistency/BS from Oda. Because we know that if characters are truly serious, the fight isn't lasting for more than an hour. Because that is what the series has shown us. Every serious fight ends within an hour.
This is precisely the reason these are off screen fights.
The only exception to this I can buy logically, would be Marco and King.
Cause Marco can heal himself until he runs out of stamina. But that would be, him fighting above his paygrade and stalling. If he's fighting someone within his ballpark or below him, the fight ends within an hour if he's serious as well.
Or King facing against a stronger non advanced conq user, he can stall by just staying his his defence mode, until he runs out of stamina.
I doubt in a prolonged fight, Whitebeard at that point(half his face blown out and post heart atrack) would have been victorious.
Old Whitebeard at the beginning of Marineford, would have crushed Akainu in a 1v1
Yea, it was a double KO IMO.
WB would've eventually succumbed to his injuries and died.
Akainu was straight up KO'd, and would've died if he didn't get lucky and fall off a cliff.
Old WB at beginning of Marineford? Nah, would've still been an very tough battle. He was off his meds for days, was sick and was barely able to use haki.
Old WB in meds, whose conqueror's haki equaled Shanks' ? Definitely. Not destroy, but mid-high diff
What is speed but the power you put into your legs and push off the ground with? ACoC aguements limbs, like Luffy's arms. If he utilizes ACoC and can certainly us it to argument the power in his legs to gain faster momentum.
To me ACoC, once fully mastered give a blanket increase to all physical stats depending on the degree of mastery
The thing is, we see when Luffy is using his advanced conqueror's.
He's exclusively using it for defending himself, or for attacking. Luffy hasn't used it for boosting his speed yet at least, if he was capable of doing that, ODa would've shown it to us already.
Till now, all usages of advanced conqueror's that we have seen are for boosting attack power (deeper hits), and for defense/CQC (using gap to block/push back attacks)
