Discussion Alvarez Mages Power Rate - [FINISHED]

[The President]

All respect to Bradman, but how the fuck did he make it this far

Dude uses the curse power of the Tartarus demons, do we not understand how outdated that is? Not to mention Wahls blatantly better results side-by-side with Bradman that leaves pretty much no room for interpretation on who is the stronger of the two. Anyways Bradman is going out next. Then God Serena. Then Larcade, then DiMaria (because we all know just how wanked she is, Larcade is way stronger but she will somehow still edge him out im sure due to some people giving her solid 10s) then Irene and then August.

 

[Hermit]

Dude uses the curse power of the Tartarus demons, do we not understand how outdated that is? Not to mention Wahls blatantly better results side-by-side with Bradman that leaves pretty much no room for interpretation on who is the stronger of the two.

Agreed.
Bradman has an impressive skill set (I put his overall abilities up there when it comes to the S12, along with God Serena's Hybrid Theory, Irene's enchantments, plus Dimaria's Age Seal + God Soul), but realistically speaking, I found the First and Second Seals to be more impressive than the Third Seal (the Nine Demon Gates's abilities). Gajeel literally got spammed with all their attacks, and still had it in him to absorb MBP's plus kill Bradman. So either:
-Gajeel's durability is top tier
-Bradman's Curses are weak sauce
Honestly, gearing towards the latter here. Gajeel's durability has never really been shown to be anything off the charts, so by all means, all that Curse spam should have killed him.
Only reason I have Wahl above Bradman is because of that MBP nullifying gun. Aside that the two are equal in both offense to me.

 

[Doughboy]

I took Bloodman over God Serena when matching one on one cause of his MBP hax but rethinking it God Serena's lungs and his spam might be able to outlast him. So I got Bloodman coming next. I'm loving how much respect Dimaria is getting, she's so underrated. It's why she's bae.

 

[Jko]

Overrated 2 in the top 6 lol.

Larcade

• Got whooped by Base Sting
• Got beat by a noob WSD.
• All moves were countered relatively easily
• Throws a shuriken around like some fudging Hidden Leaf Shinobi
• Sting is his mom?!!

God Serena

• Beat featless geezers
• Got oneshotted by the God of the verse
• Came back with like a third or less of his power and got trashed by Gildarts (with as much difficulty Gildarts used against Bluenote).
• Featless of featless
• Zero Hax

I honestly think these two are the most overrated S12. Larcade is automatically place as third from false hype and Goddy is placed as a high tier for beating fodder level mages.

 

[Hermit]

Throws a shuriken around like some fudging Hidden Alvarez Shinobi

Ninja as fuck
My dude, have you seen what those shurikens can do though?

Spoiler: Shuriken Jutsu!

Okay now to address this post seriously lol.

All moves were countered relatively easily

Not really, only Pleasure was countered easily, with Hunger and R.I.P Sting needed outside help to beat him. In both scenarios.

Got oneshotted by the God of the verse

God of the Verse one shots anyone on his worst day

Zero Hax

Irene doesn't have hax and she's the second strongest Spriggan.

Came back with like a third or less of his power and got trashed by Gildarts (with as much difficulty Gildarts used against Bluenote).

Losing to Gildarts>>Losing to Rogue or Minerva.

 

[Static]

Ninja as fuck
My dude, have you seen what those shurikens can do though?

Spoiler: Shuriken Jutsu!

Okay now to address this post seriously lol.

Not really, only Pleasure was countered easily, with Hunger and R.I.P Sting needed outside help to beat him. In both scenarios.

God of the Verse one shots anyone on his worst day

Irene doesn't have hax and she's the second strongest Spriggan.

Losing to Gildarts>>Losing to Rogue or Minerva.

To add to this, Acno doesn't have hax and he's the strongest character in the series by MILES :P

 

[Ebony Maw]

All respect to Bradman, but how the fuck did he make it this far

Dude uses the curse power of the Tartarus demons, do we not understand how outdated that is? Not to mention Wahls blatantly better results side-by-side with Bradman that leaves pretty much no room for interpretation on who is the stronger of the two. Anyways Bradman is going out next. Then God Serena. Then Larcade, then DiMaria (because we all know just how wanked she is, Larcade is way stronger but she will somehow still edge him out im sure due to some people giving her solid 10s) then Irene and then August.

Agreed.
Bradman has an impressive skill set (I put his overall abilities up there when it comes to the S12, along with God Serena's Hybrid Theory, Irene's enchantments, plus Dimaria's Age Seal + God Soul), but realistically speaking, I found the First and Second Seals to be more impressive than the Third Seal (the Nine Demon Gates's abilities). Gajeel literally got spammed with all their attacks, and still had it in him to absorb MBP's plus kill Bradman. So either:
-Gajeel's durability is top tier
-Bradman's Curses are weak sauce
Honestly, gearing towards the latter here. Gajeel's durability has never really been shown to be anything off the charts, so by all means, all that Curse spam should have killed him.
Only reason I have Wahl above Bradman is because of that MBP nullifying gun. Aside that the two are equal in both offense to me.

I actually agree with you guys, Bradman's actual firepower is pretty bad but he's got very haxy curses to compensate. For example, Sensation and Tenchi. All he needs to do is rip their senses away and flood the place, not many people (like, hardly anyone) will be able to escape Tenchi whilst blind and having no sense of touch.

So yeah, agreed that his overall firepower is bad, but he's got really haxxy curses to compensate, and it more than makes up for it IMO.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I don't see a problem with where Bradman is. He isn't only limited to the power of the demon gates. His body is impervious to physical attacks, he can absorb magic attacks through Franmalth's curse, and unless you have a dragon slayer's lungs, his MBP can slowly/rapidly kill people depending on how strong they are. Because of who he fought (Gajeel and Rouge, two dragon slayers) his MBP wasn't that effective on their lungs. If it was anyone else it would have worked far better. His attack power isn't as great as Wahl's but he has a pretty effective hax.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

I can't see how Brandish made it to 7,she is extremely overrated but its good to see she went out before she got into the top 6.
Wall should've been in the top 6, but oh well.
Bradman is probably going out next, after him Serena is going.
I believe 4 is actually going to be Larcade and not Dimaria,Age Seal is too overrated.Even though it was said Larcade is top 3 in the manga.
How about we put out our lists after the final results of the rating are out ? I would like to see what people think about the powers of the spriggans.

 

[Jko]

Not really, only Pleasure was countered easily, with Hunger and R.I.P Sting needed outside help to beat him. In both scenarios.

He countered hunger by just trying to eat Larcade instead of his friends. He resisted RIP for a good minute or two. And he's need to perform hand signs to do that.

God of the Verse one shots anyone on his worst day

Makes him have unknown durability.

Irene doesn't have hax and she's the second strongest Spriggan.

You're kidding right? Her entire set of magic is hax. She can literally do anything with enchantment.

Losing to Gildarts>>Losing to Rogue or Minerva.

Difference is, Gildarts didn't have high diff GS. He slaughter about the same difficulty he would have against Bluenote. Rogue and Minerva maybe won extreme diff. If Minerva or Rogue fought Gildarts with all their power they'd push him as much as Bluenote would to.

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To add to this, Acno doesn't have hax and he's the strongest character in the series by MILES :P

His hax is blowing through all hax. It's pretty hax to be resistant (or can counter) to mostly all forms of hax in the verse.

 

[Static]

He countered hunger by just trying to eat Larcade instead of his friends. He resisted RIP for a good minute or two. And he's need to perform hand signs to do that.

Makes him have unknown durability.

You're kidding right? Her entire set of magic is hax. She can literally do anything with enchantment.

Difference is, Gildarts didn't have high diff GS. He slaughter about the same difficulty he would have against Bluenote. Rogue and Minerva maybe won extreme diff. If Minerva or Rogue fought Gildarts with all their power they'd push him as much as Bluenote would to.

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His hax is blowing through all hax. It's pretty hax to be resistant (or can counter) to mostly all forms of hax in the verse.

Sorry bro but what? You just lost me

Acno's ability to defy hax is NLF...it's not an ability that he possesses.

 

[Nemispelled]

I apologise then, I wrongfully assumed you were talking about the rating being rigged.

As for FT PR itself, yea I can agree to that. It's fickle at the best of times.



That's a nice way of putting it. Also she was master of Marin but slave to Aquarius.

Nah, no need to apologize. You're the mod, so it's good that you are active in keeping stuff in order..

I always just babble about stuff being rigged/suspicious. Idk if BP even knew what I was talking about either. The Spriggans are probably the most rigged group in Fairy Tail, to be honest. By the way, your low ratings are pretty accurate. I agree with the majority of them since we're comparing all the Spriggans to August.

 

[The President]

We've went over NLF countless times so I won't even bother going over that with you again cause we all know what your stance is on that but......

He countered hunger by just trying to eat Larcade instead of his friends. He resisted RIP for a good minute or two. And he's need to perform hand signs to do that.

No he didn't, its made explicitly clear that he overcame his hunger thanks to Rogue feeding him his power. And it just so happens that he is the perfect counter to Larcades pleasure magic as well, something the likes of Irene/Gildarts/Laxus were getting downed by. And no, many fights don't even last a minute or two, he was instantly getting drowsed (effectively hindering his battle prowess).

Makes him have unknown durability.

He tanked Wolfheims punch to the face with no damage, which is a far greater feat then DiMaria tanking Wendy's punch to the face with no damage given that, you know, Wendy is completely inept when it comes to physical strength and DF doesn't change that all that much.

I actually agree with you guys, Bradman's actual firepower is pretty bad but he's got very haxy curses to compensate. For example, Sensation and Tenchi. All he needs to do is rip their senses away and flood the place, not many people (like, hardly anyone) will be able to escape Tenchi whilst blind and having no sense of touch.

So yeah, agreed that his overall firepower is bad, but he's got really haxxy curses to compensate, and it more than makes up for it IMO.

I thought about it, and I am not sure if he can use more then one curse at the same time. It certainly didn't seem to be the case.

I don't see a problem with where Bradman is. He isn't only limited to the power of the demon gates. His body is impervious to physical attacks, he can absorb magic attacks through Franmalth's curse, and unless you have a dragon slayer's lungs, his MBP can slowly/rapidly kill people depending on how strong they are. Because of who he fought (Gajeel and Rouge, two dragon slayers) his MBP wasn't that effective on their lungs. If it was anyone else it would have worked far better. His attack power isn't as great as Wahl's but he has a pretty effective hax.

His MBPs aren't that great against anyone worth his salt (we all know Bill only died for the sake of preserving the plot). I consider that pretty much a non-factor when talking about high level battles. Levy was able to endure it for some time while enduring other attacks and she is incredibly frail, no stronger then Lisanna in direct combat (though far more useful overall).

 

[Doughboy]

@Jko you cool peoples but you sound like you're hating just a small bit lol. Larcade's "no hax" honestly could end Irene. No one is saying she's stronger than him, just saying his magic works on her so she's done if she fully succumbs. Even if she doesn't that could be enough time to use RIP or Meal on her. It is what it is.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

His MBPs aren't that great against anyone worth his salt (we all know Bill only died for the sake of preserving the plot). I consider that pretty much a non-factor when talking about high level battles. Levy was able to endure it for some time while enduring other attacks and she is incredibly frail, no stronger then Lisanna in direct combat (though far more useful overall).

Levy wasn't directly breathing through it tho. It was only absorbed through her skin which is a much slower way of it reaching inside her body than her directly inhaling it. MBPs are much more lethal when inhaled which is why Hiro made the point that Dragon slayers have strong lungs and won't be as affected. Anyone who inhales MBP and has magic power will be affected.

 

[Jko]

@Jko you cool peoples but you sound like you're hating just a small bit lol. Larcade's "no hax" honestly could end Irene. No one is saying she's stronger than him, just saying his magic works on her so she's done if she fully succumbs. Even if she doesn't that could be enough time to use RIP or Meal on her. It is what it is.

When did I say Larcade didn't have hax? Larcade would get one Dragon swipe and die instantly. She will transmute is butt into a chair. She's faster, stronger, and has better hax. You're actually tell me Larcade is gonna beat Irene with RIP when his hax couldn't even down Rogue who was out of magic???

 

[Doughboy]

When did I say Larcade didn't have hax? Larcade would get one Dragon swipe and die instantly. She will transmute is butt into a chair. She's faster, stronger, and has better hax. You're actually tell me Larcade is gonna beat Irene with RIP when his hax couldn't even down Rogue who was out of magic???

all 3 of his magics at the same time though... Irene is human first and foremost, just can't rule it out

 

[Jko]

Sorry bro but what? You just lost me

Acno's ability to defy hax is NLF...it's not an ability that he possesses.

Nah bro. His ability doesn't come from raw power. He defies so much hax magic because he has built counters or resistance to most forms of magic. He even gloated about his vast knowledge of magic. Even pseudo END had the power to defy hax.

 

[Static]

@Jko you cool peoples but you sound like you're hating just a small bit lol. Larcade's "no hax" honestly could end Irene. No one is saying she's stronger than him, just saying his magic works on her so she's done if she fully succumbs. Even if she doesn't that could be enough time to use RIP or Meal on her. It is what it is.

Just wanna say didn't say that Larcade had no hax but he meant that for God Serena :3.

 

[Jko]

all 3 of his magics at the same time though... Irene is human first and foremost, just can't rule it out

Irene is a Dragon. She lost her humanity. She doesn't hunger, or sleep. Pleasure will be more of nuisance than a way to put her down. One claw swipe would kill Larcade. He wasn't on the caliber of the top 2.