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Oh Pudding Memo memo no mi, and Viola's giro giro are also great options :zomg

I forgot a lot of interesting fruits, so decide to list* them here so you can click the link and check the ones youd like to pick. (source : picked the lists from wikia)

*listed only canon fruits.

paramecia

Paramecia fruits

  • Gomu Gomu no Mi (English versions: Gum-Gum Fruit): Turns the user's body into rubber, giving them the power to stretch, bounce, and inflate; as well as make them immune to electricity and near impervious to blunt-force attacks and bullets. Eaten by Monkey D. Luffy.
  • Bara Bara no Mi (English versions: Chop-Chop Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into separate pieces, which the user can manipulate and make fly through the air. It also makes them immune to slashing attacks. Eaten by Buggy.
  • Sube Sube no Mi (English versions: Slip-Slip Fruit/Smooth-Smooth Fruit): Makes the user's skin extremely smooth and slippery, causing things to slide off them. Eaten by Alvida.
  • Bomu Bomu no Mi (English versions: Bomb-Bomb Fruit/Boom-Boom Fruit): Allows the user to create explosions from their body, as well as give explosive properties to their bodily secretions. Also makes the user immune to explosions. Eaten by Gem.
  • Kiro Kiro no Mi (English versions: Kilo-Kilo Fruit): Allows the user to increase or decrease their body weight at will. Eaten by Mikita.
  • Hana Hana no Mi (English versions: Flower-Flower Fruit): Allows the user to sprout duplicates of their body parts from any nearby surface. Eaten by Nico Robin.
  • Doru Doru no Mi (English versions: Wax-Wax Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candle wax. Eaten by Galdino.
  • Baku Baku no Mi (English versions: Munch-Munch Fruit): Allows the user to eat anything and transform their body to match the qualities of what they've recently eaten. Eaten by Wapol.
  • Mane Mane no Mi (English versions: Clone-Clone Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a physical lookalike of another person. Eaten by Kurozumi Higurashi until her death and later eaten by Bentham.
  • Supa Supa no Mi (English versions: Dice-Dice Fruit): Allows the user to transform any part of their body into a blade, thus gaining slashing abilities and making their skin as hard as steel. Eaten by Daz Bonez.
  • Toge Toge no Mi (English versions: Spike-Spike Fruit): Allows the user to grow spikes from their body. Eaten by Zala.
  • Ori Ori no Mi (English versions: Cage-Cage Fruit/Bind-Bind Fruit): Allows the user to create iron bindings on their opponents. Eaten by Hina.
  • Bane Bane no Mi (English versions: Spring-Spring Fruit/Boing-Boing Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into springs. Eaten by Bellamy.
  • Ito Ito no Mi (English versions: String-String Fruit): Allows the user to create and control strings. Eaten by Donquixote Doflamingo.
  • Noro Noro no Mi (English versions: Slow-Slow Fruit): Allows the user to emit special photons that slow down anything they touch for 30 seconds. Eaten by Foxy.
  • Doa Doa no Mi (English versions: Door-Door Fruit): Allows the user to create and open doors on anything, including walls, living beings, and the even the air itself. Eaten by Blueno.
  • Awa Awa no Mi (English versions: Bubble-Bubble Fruit): Allows the user to create and control soap bubbles that can clean anything, including strength. Eaten by Kalifa.
  • Beri Beri no Mi (English versions: Berry-Berry Fruit): Allows the user to split their body into many spheres. Eaten by Very Good.
  • Sabi Sabi no Mi (English versions: Rust-Rust Fruit): Allows the user to rust anything they touch, including organic material. Eaten by Shu.
  • Shari Shari no Mi (English versions: Wheel-Wheel Fruit): Allows the user to turn their limbs into wheels. Eaten by Sharinguru.
  • Horo Horo no Mi (English versions: Hollow-Hollow Fruit): Allows the user to create and control ghosts. The ghosts cause despair in the people they touch and are capable of self-destructing. The user can also make their own ghost leave their body. Eaten by Perona.
  • Yomi Yomi no Mi (English versions: Revive-Revive Fruit): Allows the user to return to life after dying once already, as well as allow the user to make their returned soul temporarily leave their reanimated body. Eaten by Brook.
  • Kage Kage no Mi (English versions: Shadow-Shadow Fruit): Allows the user to manifest and control shadows. Eaten by Gecko Moria.
  • Suke Suke no Mi (English versions: Clear-Clear Fruit): Allows the user to become invisible, as well as make anything they touch invisible. Eaten by Absalom until his death and later eaten by Shiryu.
  • Nikyu Nikyu no Mi (English versions: Paw-Paw Fruit): Gives the user paw pads on their hands that can repel anything they touch. Eaten by Bartholomew Kuma.
  • Ope Ope no Mi (English versions: Op-Op Fruit): Allows the user to generate a sphere-like room, inside which they can manipulate anything. Eaten by Trafalgar D. Water Law.
  • Shiro Shiro no Mi (English versions: Castle-Castle Fruit): Allows the user to become a living fortress equipped with cannons, as well as letting them shrink people and objects and house them inside their body. Eaten by Capone Bege.
  • Wara Wara no Mi (English versions: Straw-Straw Fruit): Allows the user to create and control straw. They can attach other people's life forces to straw dolls, allowing the damage they take to transfer to the dolls and the people connected to them. Eaten by Basil Hawkins.
  • Mero Mero no Mi (English versions: Love-Love Fruit): Allows the user to turn people that feel attraction for them into stone. Eaten by Boa Hancock.
  • Doku Doku no Mi (English versions: Venom-Venom Fruit): Allows the user to create and control poison. Eaten by Magellan.
  • Horu Horu no Mi (English versions: Horm-Horm Fruit): Allows the user to create special hormones and inject them into a persons body, changing their biochemistry. Eaten by Emporio Ivankov.
  • Choki Choki no Mi (English versions: Snip-Snip Fruit): Allows the user to transform parts of their body into scissors. Anything cut by these scissors briefly gains the properties of paper. Eaten by Inazuma.
  • Gura Gura no Mi (English versions: Tremor-Tremor Fruit): Allows the user to create quakes and shockwaves. Considered to be the most powerful Paramecia. Eaten by Edward Newgate and later stolen from him by Marshall D. Teach upon his death.
  • Kira Kira no Mi: Allows the user to transform their body into diamond. Eaten by Jozu.
  • Woshu Woshu no Mi (English versions: Wash-Wash Fruit): Allows the user to literally wash and fold a person as if they were laundry. It also makes the victim's heart cleaner. Eaten by Tsuru.
  • Fuwa Fuwa no Mi (English versions: Float-Float Fruit): Allows the user to fly and make non-living things they touch levitate. Eaten by Shiki.
  • Mato Mato no Mi (English versions: Mark-Mark Fruit): Allows the user to mark a person as their target by touching them so that any weapon thrown with that same hand will chase after the marked target. Eaten by Vander Decken IX.
  • Fuku Fuku no Mi (English versions: Garb-Garb Jutsu): Allows the user to create clothing. Eaten by Kin'emon.
  • Hobi Hobi no Mi (English versions: Hobby-Hobby Fruit): Allows the user to turn people into subservient toys, simultaneously erasing any memory of the victim from the minds of others. It also halts the user's aging. Eaten by Sugar.
  • Buki Buki no Mi (English versions: Arms-Arms Fruit): Allows the user to transform their body into any kind of weapon. Eaten by Baby 5.
  • Guru Guru no Mi (English versions: Spin-Spin Fruit): Allows the user to make any part of their body spin like a propeller. Eaten by Buffalo.
  • Beta Beta no Mi (English versions: Stick-Stick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control mucus. Eaten by Trebol.
  • Zushi Zushi no Mi: Allows the user to manipulate gravity. Eaten by Issho.
  • Bari Bari no Mi (English versions: Barrier-Barrier Fruit): Allows the user to create barriers. Eaten by Kurozumi Semimaru until his death and later eaten by Bartolomeo.
  • Nui Nui no Mi (English versions: Stitch-Stitch Power): Allows the user to stitch things together. Eaten by Leo.
  • Giro Giro no Mi (English versions: Glare-Glare Fruit): Allows the user to see through solid objects, as well as read people's minds and memories. Eaten by Viola.
  • Ato Ato no Mi (English versions: Art-Art Fruit): Allows the user to transform people and objects into art. Eaten by Giolla.
  • Jake Jake no Mi (English versions: Jacket-Jacket Fruit): Allows the user to transform into a jacket and control the body of the person wearing them. Eaten by Kelly Funk.
  • Pamu Pamu no Mi (English versions: Pop-Pop Fruit): Allows the user to expand and rupture their body, as well as any inorganic object they touch. Eaten by Gladius.
  • Sui Sui no Mi (English versions: Swim-Swim Fruit): Allows the user to swim freely in the ground and walls. Eaten by Senor Pink.
  • Ton Ton no Mi (English versions: Ton-Ton Fruit): Allows the user to drastically increase their body weight. Eaten by Machvise.
  • Hira Hira no Mi (English versions: Ripple-Ripple Fruit): Allows the user to give anything they touch the properties of fabric, making it thin, flexible, and fluttering. Eaten by Diamante.
  • Ishi Ishi no Mi (English versions: Stone-Stone Fruit): Allows the user to assimilate into and control stone. Eaten by Pica.
  • Nagi Nagi no Mi (English versions: Calm-Calm Fruit): Allows the user to nullify sounds. Eaten by Donquixote Rosinante until his death.
  • Chiyu Chiyu no Mi (English versions: Heal-Heal Fruit): Allows the user to heal people's wounds. Eaten by Mansherry.
  • Soru Soru no Mi (English versions: Soul-Soul Fruit): Allows the user to extract people's souls and use them to bring objects to life. Eaten by Carmel until her death and later eaten by Charlotte Linlin.
  • Mira Mira no Mi (English versions: Mirror-Mirror Fruit): Allows the user to create mirrors that reflect attacks and act as entrances to the Mirro-World. Eaten by Charlotte Brûlée.
  • Pero Pero no Mi (English versions: Lick-Lick Fruit): Allows the user to create and control candy. Eaten by Charlotte Perospero.
  • Bisu Bisu no Mi (English versions: Bis-Bis Fruit): Allows the user to create and control biscuits. Eaten by Charlotte Cracker.
  • Bata Bata no Mi (English versions: Butter-Butter Fruit): Allows the user to create and control butter. Eaten by Charlotte Galette.
  • Buku Buku no Mi (English versions: Book-Book Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate books, as well as trap people inside them. Eaten by Charlotte Mont-d'Or.
  • Kuri Kuri no Mi (English versions: Cream-Cream Fruit): Allows the user to create and control cream. Eaten by Charlotte Opera.
  • Shibo Shibo no Mi (English versions: Wring-Wring Fruit): Allows the user to drain liquid from people and objects. Eaten by Charlotte Smoothie.
  • Memo Memo no Mi (English versions: Memo-Memo Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate people's memories. Eaten by Charlotte Pudding.
  • Mochi Mochi no Mi (English versions: Mochi-Mochi Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mochi. Eaten by Charlotte Katakuri. This Devil Fruit is noted to be a "special Paramecia".
  • Hoya Hoya no Mi (English versions: Puff-Puff Fruit): Allows the user to summon a genie from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Daifuku.
  • Netsu Netsu no Mi (English versions: Heat-Heat Fruit): Allows the user to emit high heat from their body. Eaten by Charlotte Oven.
  • Kuku Kuku no Mi (English versions: Cook-Cook Fruit): Allows the user to transform objects into food. Eaten by Streusen.
  • Gocha Gocha no Mi: Allows the user to fuse themselves with other people. Eaten by Charlotte Newshi.
  • Oshi Oshi no Mi (English versions: Push-Push Fruit): Allows the user to manipulate the ground as if it were made of clay. Eaten by Morley.
  • Kobu Kobu no Mi (English versions: Pump-Pump Fruit): Allows the user to rally people into fighting and awaken their latent potential. Eaten by Belo Betty.
  • Toki Toki no Mi (English versions: Time-Time Ability): Allows the user to send themselves and others forward in time. Eaten by Kozuki Toki until her death.
  • Juku Juku no Mi (English versions: Ripe-Ripe Jutsu): Allows the user to mature and decay inanimate objects. Eaten by Shinobu.
Unnamed Fruits

  • Eustass Kid's fruit which allows him to manipulate magnetic forces.
  • Jewelry Bonney's fruit which allows her to manipulate the age of any person, including herself.
  • Scratchmen Apoo's fruit which allows him to morph body parts into instruments and use music as a weapon.
  • Urouge's fruit which allows him to convert damage taken into strength, resulting in expanding muscles.
  • Blamenco's fruit which creates pockets in his body that can store things such as a giant hammer.
  • Sanjuan Wolf's fruit that makes him bigger than regular giants.
  • Kurozumi Kanjuro's fruit that allows him to bring whatever he draws to life. Like Kin'emon, he refers to it as sorcery.
  • Tama's fruit that allows her to create dango from her cheeks that make any animal that eats them tame and subservient.



zoan

Zoan fruits


Ushi Ushi no Mi (Ox) series
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Bison (English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Bison Form) - Allows the user to become a full bison or a half-bison hybrid. Eaten by Dalton.
  • Ushi Ushi no Mi, Model: Giraffe (English versions: English versions: Ox-Ox Fruit, Giraffe Model/Ox-Ox Fruit, Model: Giraffe) - Allows the user to become a full giraffe or a half-giraffe hybrid. Eaten by Kaku.
Hito Hito no Mi (Human) series
  • Hito Hito no Mi (English versions: Human-Human Fruit) - Allows any animal that eats it to get human characteristics like Tony Tony Chopper did when he ate the fruit.
  • Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu (English versions: Human-Human Fruit, Daibutsu Model/Human-Human Fruit, Model: Buddha) - Allows the user to become a Daibutsu (a giant gold Buddha) or a half-Daibutsu hybrid. Eaten by Sengoku.
Tori Tori no Mi (Bird) series
Inu Inu no Mi (Dog) series
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Dachshund (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit/Mutt-Mutt Fruit, Dachshund Form/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Dachshund) - Allows the user to become a full dachshund or a half-dachshund hybrid. In the case of Babe's bazooka-like gun Lassoo, he became a dachshund/gun hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Jackal (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Strike/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Jackal/Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Jackal Model) - Allows the user to become a full jackal or a half-jackal hybrid. Eaten by Chaka.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Wolf (English version: Mutt-Mutt Fruit: Wolf Model/Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Wolf) - Allows the user to become a full wolf or a half-wolf hybrid similar to a werewolf. Eaten by Jabra.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Tanuki - Allows the user to become a full tanuki or a half-tanuki hybrid. In the case of Tenguyama Hitetsu's teapot Bunbuku, he becomes a tanuki/teapot hybrid.
  • Inu Inu no Mi, Model: Kyubi no Kitsune (English version: Dog-Dog Fruit, Model: Nine Tailed Fox) - Allows the user to become a full nine-tailed fox or a half-nine-tailed fox hybrid, and allows the user to become perfect clones of other people. Eaten by Catarina Devon.
Neko Neko no Mi (Cat) series
Zou Zou no Mi (Elephant) series
  • Zou Zou no Mi (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit/Eleph-Eleph Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full elephant or a half-elephant hybrid. In the case of Spandam's sword Funkfreed, he becomes an elephant/sword hybrid.
  • Zou Zou no Mi, Model: Mammoth (English version: Elephant-Elephant Fruit, Model: Mammoth) - Allows the user to become a full mammoth or a half-mammoth hybrid. Eaten by Jack.
Ryu Ryu no Mi (Dragon) series
Hebi Hebi no Mi (Snake) series
Sara Sara no Mi (Salamander) series
  • Sara Sara no Mi, Model: Axolotl (English version: Sala-Sala Fruit, Model: Axolotl) - Allows the user to become a full axolotl or a half-axolotl hybrid. In the case of Caesar Clown's slime Smiley, it became an axolotl/slime hybrid until it's death.
Mushi Mushi no Mi (Bug) series
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Kabutomushi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Rhinoceros Beetle) - Allows the user to become a full rhinoceros beetle or a half-rhinoceros beetle hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Kabu.
  • Mushi Mushi no Mi, Model: Suzumebachi (English version: Bug-Bug Fruit, Model: Hornet) - Allows the user to become a full hornet or a half-hornet hybrid. The user can also fly in either form. Eaten by Bian.
Single model series
  • Mogu Mogu no Mi (English version: Diggy-Diggy Fruit/Mole-Mole Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full mole or a half-mole hybrid. The user can also dig underground. Eaten by Drophy.
  • Uma Uma no Mi (English version: Horse-Horse Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full horse or a half-horse hybrid. In the case of Gan Fall's pet bird Pierre, he resembles a Pegasus.
  • Kame Kame no Mi (English version: Turtle-Turtle Fruit) - Allows the user to become a full turtle or a half-turtle hybrid. In the case of Pekoms, he resembles a Tarasque
Unnamed Fruits

This section lists the Zoan Devil Fruits that haven't been identified yet.

  • Minotaurus' fruit which allows him to take the form of a Holstein cow.
  • Minokoala's fruit which allows him to take the form of a koala.
  • Minorhinoceros' fruit which allows him to take the form of a rhinoceros.
  • Minozebra's fruit which allows him to take the form of a zebra.
  • Onigumo's fruit that lets him sprout spider-like arms from his back as well as grow a spider's abdomen.
  • Dalmatian's fruit which allows him to turn into a dalmatian.
  • Epoida's fruit which allows him to turn into a caterpillar.
  • Minochihuahua's fruit which allows him to take the form of a chihuahua.
  • Kaido's fruit which allows him to transform into an eastern dragon.





logia

Logia fruits

  • Moku Moku no Mi (English Versions: Smoke-Smoke Fruit/Plume-Plume Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into smoke. Eaten by Smoker.
  • Suna Suna no Mi (English Versions: Sand-Sand Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into sand. The sand can dehydrate any non-metallic substance it touches. Eaten by Crocodile.
  • Mera Mera no Mi (English Versions: Flame-Flame Fruit/Flare-Flare Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into fire. Eaten by Portgas D. Ace until his death and later eaten by Sabo.
  • Goro Goro no Mi (English Versions: Rumble-Rumble Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into lightning. Eaten by Enel.
  • Hie Hie no Mi (English Versions: Chilly-Chilly Fruit/Ice-Ice Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into ice. Eaten by Kuzan.
  • Yami Yami no Mi (English Versions: Dark-Dark Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into darkness. The darkness has strong gravitational properties and the user has an infinite amount of space inside of their elemental body. Eaten by Marshall D. Teach.
  • Pika Pika no Mi (English Versions: Glint-Glint Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into light. Eaten by Borsalino.
  • Magu Magu no Mi (English Versions: Mag-Mag Fruit): Allows the user to create, create, and transform into magma. Eaten by Sakazuki.
  • Numa Numa no Mi (English Versions: Swamp-Swamp Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into mud. The user is a "bottomless swamp", granting them an infinite amount of space inside their elemental body. The mud can take on the properties of quicksand. Eaten by Caribou.
  • Gasu Gasu no Mi (English Versions: Gas-Gas Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into gas. Eaten by Caesar Clown.
  • Yuki Yuki no Mi (English Versions: Snow-Snow Fruit): Allows the user to create, control, and transform into snow. Eaten by Monet until her death.


 

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The only thing thats missing is intangibility as Luffy DID manage to hit him....BUT, this could be explained by either A) The speed of luffy's attack surprising Magellan, thus not giving him time to become intangible (we saw this when luffy accidentally ran into Smoker and Ace in Alabasta...they CAN be hit) or B) Perhaps Magellans fruit is an exception like BB's

Either way if it IS a Paramecia its easily the most Logia like we've seen. The only thing missing is the ability to allow attacks to pass through him.
hmm not sure if anyone corrected me the last time i said it, but from watching the clip again and again, luffy hits smoker from the back, meaning the reason why he hit smoker could be because of smokers weapon (it was a while ago, but i think that weapon is like seastone stuff).. and therefore hitting ace as well, (lol loved ace's reaction!!)
 

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Intangibility
The ability to manipulate their "element"
Being MADE of their element
Where is he not intangible? It's just, that his fluid poison makes it hard for his enemies to grab him.
He may be able to manipulate his power to a great degree, because he is what they call a master. It was said in One Piece too, some hundred chapters ago, that DF users have to enhance/improve their abilitys. Just like Luffy did...
He excretes the poison through his body/skin/pores. Because he can't take to much of his own poison, he has to take a crap.
Magellan fits two of these very well.....and the one he DOESNT fit can be argued a bit (for now).
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Hear me out. We've all heard the "The Gumu Gumu no Mi is a Logia!" argument, and I think we can agree that its not true. While the Gum Gum fruit IS one of the tricky cases in that Luffy IS rubber, he CANT manipulate his body and project his rubber at will.
He can't because he is a rubber man. He can stretch body or heat it up to harden it. That is manipulation of his body... If rubber snaps, it can't be attached to him again... he would be crippled, unlike loga. I have'nt seen Magellan or Mr.3 throw one of their arms onto an enemy, have you?
Sure he can stretch himself, but thats simply a property of his body, he can not mentally manipulate his rubber or project his rubber beyond his body.
Magellan isn't able to liquefy, even if he has only shown forms of liquid poison. Mr.3 can't stay liquid too, even if wax should be able to switch both states.
Now Magellan on the other hand CAN. Not only is the Chief Warden MADE of Poison he can manipulate himself to project that poison beyond his person. These abilities are the definition of Logia.
We never got confirmation, that he is MADE of poison.He is just able to manipulate his DF ability, not his element.
Also (not that its relevant to my argument), even though Magellan isn't technically intangible, to a physical fighter like Luffy he may as well be.
A physical fighter like Luffy could not touch Croc, till he got wet.
 

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hmm not sure if anyone corrected me the last time i said it, but from watching the clip again and again, luffy hits smoker from the back, meaning the reason why he hit smoker could be because of smokers weapon (it was a while ago, but i think that weapon is like seastone stuff).. and therefore hitting ace as well, (lol loved ace's reaction!!)
No, that seastone sword has nothing to do with that. Later we see Smoker using his ability and turning into smoke still with that sword on his back.

Smoker was not prepared to hit physically, that's why he got hit by Luffy. Coz he didn't saw that coming, same goes for Ace. I believe Logia user have 2 option 1. to turn into their element without losing a physical body or 2. to turn into their element while losing their physical body. (Don't know if that is understandable.. If some1 is interested I could support my theory with manga pages)

btw Magellan must be a phara-type. Here we see him riding on his poison, instead of turning himself to poison. He can produce poison out of his body, without able to turn himself to poison, same with Mr.3. He can produce wax, but can't turn to wax.
 
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Besides, Magellan has to take a crap each day. If he were logia, he wouldn't need to do it.
I don't remember Crocodile being itchy, or Aokiji shivering from cold. Ace never said OUCH.
 

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yeah its simple. Magellan DF isnt logia type
 

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yeah its simple. Magellan DF isnt logia type
Actually I never even considered magellans fruit to be a logia lol. I don't see why some people have that much trouble finding identifying types of fruit, IMO so far telling apart a logia from a paramecia is incredibly simple.
There are 2 basic conditions to identify a logia user:
1.- Being capable of producing unlimited amounts of the element
2.- Being able to become intangible by transforming into the element
It is that simple....
 

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There are 2 basic conditions to identify a logia user:
1.- Being capable of producing unlimited amounts of the element
2.- Being able to become intangible by transforming into the element
It is that simple....
Well... I'd like to add the point

3.- Oda put it in some dialogue referring to the DF book.

Blackbeard is NOT able to produce unlimited amounts of the element - the Yami yami power is exhausting him and he can't transform into darkness.

But that's the only exception I guess.

BTW... Magellan doesn't need to take a crap because of his devil powers... He needs to because he consumes a lot of venom by eating them. Wasn't poisoned soup his favorite meal?
 

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1.- Being capable of producing unlimited amounts of the element
But that goes not only for logia. Mr 3 can also produce unlimited wax, if I remember correctly.

Besides, Magellan has to take a crap each day. If he were logia, he wouldn't need to do it.
I don't remember Crocodile being itchy, or Aokiji shivering from cold. Ace never said OUCH.
I believe Magellan is a exception on that matter. Other para don't have to rest after using their powers.

Blackbeard is NOT able to produce unlimited amounts of the element - the Yami yami power is exhausting him and he can't transform into darkness.
I read somewhere that logia can turn only the volume of their body into their element, so basically they can't produce unlimited element. But BB' power let him suck everything without limit, as far as I can remember. But when was it stated that the yami fruit is exhausting him?
 
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I believe Magellan is a exception on that matter. Other para don't have to rest after using their powers.
How come? Everybody has to rest sooner or later. Luffy has to rest after using his power too much.
And when did Magellan go to rest?
He went to the toilet.
 

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Well yes, everyone has eventually to rest. But Magallen went to the toilet (he called it at first sealed area) just after one fight. Though the exact reason hasn't been said yet, I believe he had to rest (in his case taking a shit), cause he used too much poison. It's almost as if he is limited to how much poison he can use and that's my point. Other Para aren't limited, except for physical exhaustion, but not due to overuse of their ability. That's why I said he is a exception.

But my idea holds only if he was resting, if not then everythin I just wrote was just dust.. lol
 

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That wasn't an accurate translation. Franky House did a version two on that one.

In the second version, Magellan says:"...I'll be heading to a "private place"..."
And then the guard says:"...your diarrhea... understood."
 

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But that goes not only for logia. Mr 3 can also produce unlimited wax, if I remember correctly.
But he himself cannot transform into wax. Instant paramecia.
Blackbeard is NOT able to produce unlimited amounts of the element - the Yami yami power is exhausting him and he can't transform into darkness.

But that's the only exception I guess.

BTW... Magellan doesn't need to take a crap because of his devil powers... He needs to because he consumes a lot of venom by eating them. Wasn't poisoned soup his favorite meal?
I was under the impression that BB couldn't transform into his element because of ther nature of his element. His power is basically gravity, to suck people, so it sort of makes sense he cannot disperse himself(IDK how to explain it though). Also BB is able to produce unlimited amounts of his element. Or at least he matched the capacity ace had by sucking the town and creating a giant ball of darkness.
 

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I'll say it again.

According to Oda himself in an SBS: The Logia type, able to change their living body structure into the powers of nature, are extremely powerful within all the categories of powers.

So to recap, if a person can change their own body structure, they're a logia type. This would be like Smoker's stomach turning into smoke so he suddenly doesn't have a stomach. BB is capable of this, but his element is gravity which just sucks in the damage anyway.
 

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I would like to talk about the DF's categories

The Zoans are divided in Ancient Zoans (Drake's) and " Normal/New " Zoans (the others)

The Logias are divided in Special Logias (BB's) and Full/Normal Logias (the others)

The Paramecias
are very special and can be divided in several categories :
- The ones that transform your body definitely : this is the case of Luffy's, Buggy's, Alvida's, Capone's
- The ones that allow you to transform only your body for a chosen time : this is the case for Miss Valentine's, Mr 1's, Bon Clay's, Miss Double Finger's, Bellamy's, Colonel Sharinguru's, Colonel Very Good's, Apoo's, Hawkins',
The ones that allow you the capacity to create " matter " from nothing : Mr 5's, Nico Robin's, Mr 3's, Kalifa's, Moria's, Magellan's, Colonel Hina's
The ones that give you an unnatural power (the others which do not really fit) : Foxy's, Blueno's, Colonel Shuu's, Brook's, Kuma's, Absalom's, Kid's, Law's, Bonney's, Wapol's, Perona's.

Is that all ?
 
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^Thats about it. I don't think you need to be that specific with paramecias and zoans though. If you transform into an animal then you are a zoan, if you can transform your body into an element and produce unlimited amounts of it you are a logia and whatever else you find is a paramecia.
 

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idk if this has actually been discussed, but umm I believe there was mention of an actual DEVIL(a sea devil IIRC) in league with the origin of the Devil Fruits >.>
 

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^Thats about it. I don't think you need to be that specific with paramecias and zoans though. If you transform into an animal then you are a zoan, if you can transform your body into an element and produce unlimited amounts of it you are a logia and whatever else you find is a paramecia.
This is fine, but there's no mention anywhere about logias being able to produce unlimited amounts of their element. If you think about it, this would be a little nuts, as any logia would possess the power to destroy the world. Enel certainly wouldn't have needed the Raigou.
 

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I have no idea where - I believe in the SBS - but I read that logia are only able to produce the amount of their body volume into the element. And/Or they are able to use their environment (like Croco - Alabasta) to form attacks.
 

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idk if this has actually been discussed, but umm I believe there was mention of an actual DEVIL(a sea devil IIRC) in league with the origin of the Devil Fruits >.>
There was also mention of a rumor that if a Devil Fruit user is near another Devil Fruit, he'll explode. My point is, almost nobody in the One Piece world actually has a clue as to how Devil Fruits, and therefore, we don't either. We know from Chopper's description of the Rumble Ball and Smoker's explanation of Seastone that some sort of vibration or wavelength is involved, that once a Devil Fruit is eaten, a new one of that type won't grow until the eater is dead, that a person can't eat a second Devil Fruit without dying, that it's the first bite of the fruit that transfers the power and after that the fruit is useless, that they all have a swirl design on them, that they taste horrible, about the three types and how to divide them, and that's about it. And precious little of that is about where they come from or how they work, more about what they do.

We also know from Oda that Vegapunk knows a lot more, and that the Straw Hats, and therefore we, will know a lot more too once they meet him. But that's not for a while. Until then, the bit about the Sea Devil seems to be just a rumor that people made up to explain them, and therefore, the origin of the term "Devil Fruits".

"Hey, I ate this fruit and now I'm made of rubber!"
"Really?! How did that happen? It must be because of some sort of Sea Devil!"
"So that fruit was a fruit of the Devil... I know, we'll call them Devil Fruits!"

I think it went something like that. Some guy just suspected that the fruits were the products of the Devil, and the name caught on. But it was cast as just a rumor. It may be that that's really where they come from, but we have no way of knowing until the Straw Hats meet Vegapunk.

About the SBS about producing their element... Producing things (such as wax, or body parts) is a trait of a Paramecia fruit. Oda was asked whether what Ace did for his "Flame Fist" move was create fire, or become fire. Oda answered that what Ace did was turn his arm into fire, but increase the intensity of the fire so much that it became huge. So Logias can't so much produce their element as they can turn their bodies into their element, and then increase the intensity of that. For instance, could Crocodile create a tornado of sand? No. Could Crocodile turn his palms into sand and start swirling it around until it becomes a sandstorm? Yes. And could he use sand surrounding him if he turned into his elemental form and incorporated that sand as an extension of his body? I would say yes.

Of course, Oda later made things complicated by having Ace throw lances and balls of fire unattached to his body at Blackbeard, but I've interpreted that as parts of his body that he seperated, and therefore, can still control, because they came from him. While Ace can't control fire, he couldn't make a bonfire bigger or smaller or anything, he can control the fire that is (not that comes from, that is) his body, even if it gets seperated off. And of course, the same would apply to all Logia users.
 
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About the SBS about producing their element... Producing things (such as wax, or body parts) is a trait of a Paramecia fruit. Oda was asked whether what Ace did for his "Flame Fist" move was create fire, or become fire. Oda answered that what Ace did was turn his arm into fire, but increase the intensity of the fire so much that it became huge. So Logias can't so much produce their element as they can turn their bodies into their element, and then increase the intensity of that. For instance, could Crocodile create a tornado of sand? No. Could Crocodile turn his palms into sand and start swirling it around until it becomes a sandstorm? Yes. And could he use sand surrounding him if he turned into his elemental form and incorporated that sand as an extension of his body? I would say yes.

Of course, Oda later made things complicated by having Ace throw lances and balls of fire unattached to his body at Blackbeard, but I've interpreted that as parts of his body that he seperated, and therefore, can still control, because they came from him. While Ace can't control fire, he couldn't make a bonfire bigger or smaller or anything, he can control the fire that is (not that comes from, that is) his body, even if it gets seperated off. And of course, the same would apply to all Logia users.
Logias can definitely produce their element:
With these fruits, the user may actually become a natural element, as well as generate and manipulate it.
Logia users can tap unlimited amounts of their elements from their own bodies, and the "extracted" element can be manipulated however the user wants.
~Extracts from One Piece Wikia's page on Logia Fruits
Proof that Logia users can produce their element from their bodies
In regard to your theory that the fire balls/lances that Ace fired were parts of his body: If that is the case, we did not see the fire return to him so (according to your theory) he does not have a complete body. Last time I saw, he is all well and good and his body is not devoid of an arm or leg etc.
 
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