Conditional Erza vs Acnologia

[Axiomus]

yes, so?
yes, because erza didnt block
formula 100 was blocked, 25 took out laxus. featwise 25 win
sting punch blew a hole in Jiemma, memento mori didnt make any addition of holes in gray
featwise sting punch was stronger than memento mori
ofcourse i dont agree with this, i am just saying hype cant be just ignored to make a complete causal swipe of irene hand be above the hyped up deus sema

Assuming she could even block.

Laxus wasn't taken out by A-28. Laxus was injured, and then gave his power to Natsu. Then Hades hit him with yet another spell, which took him out for a while. He still got back up later to punch Hades. A-100 is definitively better than A-28 because both were used against Makarov. Makarov waved away A-28, but was damaged through 3 pillar gods by A-100. You know what this proves? That Laxus can't wave away A-28 the same way Makarov can.

Spoiler: Makarov waves away A-28

Likewise, Gray's durability is superior to Jiemma's, especially since he received a power up from Silver. Mard Geer being able to damage demonized Gray is indeed superior to blowing a hole in Jiemma.

Feats speak for themselves. Hype is hype.

 

[sharkai]

Erza's DS sword is stronger than her ordinary sword, just like the weapons Gray makes with DeS magic are stronger than his ordinary ones. Or how "Lucy Fire" is stronger than "Lucy Kick".

Its not like Wendy is just transforming Erza's magic into Dragon Slaying magic, Wendy is attaching her own magic ON TOP of the magic already in Erza's sword. Its two magics combined that sliced through Eileen, not just one.
If Erza used that Wendy empowered sword on an ordinary human instead of a dragon it would still do more damage than it would unenchanted.

little bit more damage, not too much difference

wendy didnt attach her magic, she enchanted ds magic as stated.
there is a difference between combining magical attack like or enchanting.
enchanted erza strike is not equal to erza plus wendy strike

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Assuming she could even block.

Laxus wasn't taken out by 28. Laxus was injured, and then gave his power to Natsu. Then Hades hit him with yet another spell
Gray's durability > Jiemma's durability.

sure, your assumption is reasonable

yes he was. but either how formula 100 didnt do anything to markarov. 25 did alot to laxus. who fell on his knees aand started talking about monsters.

dont know whose durabilty is better. jiemma did take all those punches from natsu without moving.
but for memento mori to be above that hit
it should be
gray durablity >>>>> jiemma durablity
which i dont see any evidence for

 

[Axiomus]

sure, your assumption is reasonable

yes he was. but either how formula 100 didnt do anything to markarov. 25 did alot to laxus. who fell on his knees aand started talking about monsters.

dont know whose durabilty is better. jiemma did take all those punches from natsu without moving.
but for memento mori to be above that hit
it should be
gray durablity >>>>> jiemma durablity
which i dont see any evidence for

- Did Erza block a single one of Wendy Belserion's attacks? No matter how you spin it, Acnologia took Irene's fireball a lot better than Erza took Wendy's attacks. He remained unharmed and standing. Erza less so. Acnologia being pushed back by Irene is more like Gildarts getting pushed back by Natsu.
- Formula 100 triggered Makarov's heart problems. Formula 28 was waved away. Laxus being damaged by A-28 just proves that Makarov is stronger.
- Gray's durability is significantly better than Jiemma's. It's not like the punches that Natsu threw at Jiemma were his powerhouse ones either.

 

[sharkai]

Did Erza block a single one of Wendy Belserion's attacks?

Formula 100 triggered Makarov's heart problems. Formula 28 was waved away. Laxus being damaged by A-28 just proves that Makarov is stronger.

Gray's durability is significantly better than Jiemma's. It's not like the punches that Natsu threw at Jiemma were his powerhouse ones either.

no she did not, and nor is that an example of more strength.

marakrov heart problem was triggered by series of events, just like in ff arc
thus giving formula 25 a better feat than formula 100

you have to give feats for me to believe that tartarus gray had significant better durabilty than jiemma. base natsu punch will move gray, they always do

 

[Axiomus]

no she did not, and nor is that an example of more strength.

marakrov heart problem was triggered by series of events, just like in ff arc
thus giving formula 25 a better feat than formula 100

you have to give feats for me to believe that tartarus gray had significant better durabilty than jiemma. base natsu punch will move gray, they always do

So let me get this straight. Erza was thrown around by Wendy Belserion and took damage. She also did not manage to block any of the explosions. So how is this similar to what happened with Acnologia?

Makarov's heart condition went off after blocking A-100 with 3 pillar gods. He was fine after A-28, which he simply waved away. How does A-28 have better feats?

Natsu's punches vary in power. The punches he used against Jiemma weren't impressive at all. When Natsu used LFD, Minerva had to intervene to save Jiemma. Mard Geer can block LFD punch with his face. Gray can tank Mard Geer's attacks.

Spoiler: Mard Geer's kick > Natsu's punches

 

[sharkai]

So let me get this straight. Erza was thrown around by Wendy Belserion and took damage. She also did not manage to block any of the explosions. So how is this similar to what happened with Acnologia? Acnologia kept his balance and wasn't scratched at all.

Makarov's heart condition went off after blocking A-100 with 3 pillar gods. He was fine after A-28, which he simply waved away. How does A-28 have better feats?

Natsu's punches vary in power. The punches he used against Jiemma weren't impressive at all. When Natsu used LFD, Minerva had to intervene to save Jiemma. Mard Geer can block LFD punch with his face. Gray can tank Mard Geer's attacks. Mard Geer's kick > Natsu's punches.

Spoiler

because one person is blocking and other is not. not being fast enough to block is completly different

and why did marakrov had heart problem in ff arcl. what did he block then

mard attacks are stronger? show me when he blew a hole through gray or through jiemma.

 

[Axiomus]

because one person is blocking and other is not. not being fast enough to block is completly different

and why did marakrov had heart problem in ff arcl. what did he block then

mard attacks are stronger? show me when he blew a hole through gray or through jiemma.

- You're assuming that even if Erza was fast enough to block, she could. You're also assuming that Acnologia would be damaged even if he didn't block Irene's fireball.
- Completely irrelevant. What's relevant was that Makarov was fine after A-28, but was damaged after A-100.
- Mard Geer can overpower Sting and Natsu. His attacks are literally stronger than theirs. The fact that Jiemma got a hole blown through him just proves that Jiemma has terrible durability. It doesn't prove Sting has top tier attack power. Natsu can catch Sting's holy nova in dragon force with his hand.

Let's also get back on the topic of Erza vs Acnologia. Even if I ignore feats, Igneel has vastly greater hype than Irene and Erza combined. Acnologia has even higher hype than Igneel. Irene's hype is August level. Acnologia's hype is being able to take on the Alvarez Empire and Ishgar by himself.

 

[Seven777]

little bit more damage, not too much difference

wendy didnt attach her magic, she enchanted ds magic as stated.
there is a difference between combining magical attack like or enchanting.
enchanted erza strike is not equal to erza plus wendy strike

As much of a difference as there is between Ice Make spells and DeS spells.

Enchanting is attaching magic to things.
But even if i ignore that, in the end Wendy still didnt transform Erza's magic into Dragon Slayer magic, she enchanted Dragon Slayer magic ON TOP of the magic already in Erza's sword. Its not the same as a DS dual element mode, but it is the combination of two magics that cut through Eileen, not one.

 

[Solitrine]

So does anyone who thinks Erza wins this have anything that shows that Erza slash is decently stronger than Igneel's roar, because I don't see anyway she could do it even if she sat there for a thousand years slashing Acno?

 

[Indira]

Wendy's enchantments wouldn't be really enough for Erza to mask her durability and breakeable defense

Acnologia needs to fend himself well, and then go for Erza in the kill. One shot should be enough for Acno to cream her.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

???

Acnologia one-shots.

This thread must be locked.

 

[WoWfan]

Erza takes this since she can harm Acno swords.

 

[Orphan Prince]

Replace Serena with Erza.

Spoiler

Yep, that's how this fight goes.

 

[WoWfan]

Replace Serena with Erza.

Spoiler

Yep, that's how this fight goes.

I doubt it

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[Darklord#10]

Replace Serena with Erza.

Spoiler

Yep, that's how this fight goes.

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