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[Kiki]

Technically it is still correct that Jenny had used "Take Over: Machina Soul" in the battle with Mirajane in which she transformed into a well-armoured outfit. The exact extent of her Machina Soul is unknown since she did not get to extend further of her ability and was defeated by Mirajane in one-shot. This scene was shown in both manga and anime.

For a clear explanation, Jenny was featured in Chapter 362 - Chapter Cover.

Spoiler: Chapter 362 Cover Page

Though it had not been mentioned that the transformation in Chapter 279 and Episode 163 was Machina Soul, but I believe that the "armoured outfit" was Machina Soul. It appears that this is probably her main (or even only) outfit she uses for battles. (Of course we do know that the other outfits like swimsuit and wedding dress are for comical relief and fanservice.)

Why thank you ^^ So it's from a chapter cover. Now I know....

I wonder if a machina that is taken over by her is strong enough or not. Is she able to take over Wahl Mashima should have showed more back in Mira vs Jenny instead of a one-shot fight. I hope I can get more of this race in the future.

 

[ProGoddess]

Why thank you ^^ So it's from a chapter cover. Now I know....

I wonder if a machina that is taken over by her is strong enough or not. Is she able to take over Wahl Mashima should have showed more back in Mira vs Jenny instead of a one-shot fight. I hope I can get more of this race in the future.

What a comparison! Don't get me wrong, I'm just thinking of the two of them facing each other getting ready for a fight. Can't imagine how it's gonna be like.

Being a "Take Over" user, Jenny has to touch the entity in order to take over its power and ability. If only she can get close to Wahl and touch him or maybe the constructs of Wahl, or else there probably isn't much chance for her, especially when Wahl is in his "Assault Mode" and he uses say "Fire Blast". Even Wahl's machineries are pretty destructive.

Spoiler: Wahl in Assault Mode

Take Chapter 472 - Laxus vs Wahl for illustration, Wahl was presented as a formidable opponent to Laxus. Though Laxus' body was not well at that time, but looking at their battle, Wahl's fighting ability is still quite a "top notch" challenge for Laxus, considering Laxus is one of those power-houses of Fairy Tail.

As for the battle between Mirajane and Jenny, it was a game after all, and the two girls were used for fanservice. The one-shot scene was to feature more on Fairy Tail's capability (on Mirajane in particular) and Jenny is side character to be used.

Well, it's a shame that not much has been shown for Jenny. But her Machina outfit is still quite pretty.

 

[rob143]

hey guy i am new here and English is my second language

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anyway have you guy wonder how the mysterious fluid that traps and freezes all of the fairy tail but Lucy back in the tartatos arc and some how she just lucky and her mother some how use her life force to open the gate for the dragon s that just happen be 3rd origin that mention (life force=3rd origin) when Wendy and the other girl fight the (time of god takeover) i forget her name and her know about one magic and told Lucy and also how did Acnologia live for over 400 years and only demons, Celestial Spirit and Zeref,

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hey guy i am new here and English is my second language

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anyway have you guy wonder how the mysterious fluid that traps and freezes all of the fairy tail but Lucy back in the tartatos arc and some how she just lucky and her mother some how use her life force to open the gate for the dragon s that just happen be 3rd origin that mention (life force=3rd origin) when Wendy and the other girl fight the (time of god takeover) i forget her name and her know about one magic and told Lucy and also how did Acnologia live for over 400 years and only demons, Celestial Spirit and Zeref,

and let not forget there is a dragon star (drago

 

[SirSamuel016]

The second round of nominations in the Manga Awards 2015 have begun! Nominate your favourite manga in the next set of categories now! (This round of nominations is set to end April 1st, 2016)

 

[reesestl]

Was watching the earlier episodes of Natsu's fight with Erigor. Sweet old days!!There was a time Natsu used to take lessons from Wakaba.

 

[Lord Ainz]

Was watching the earlier episodes of Natsu's fight with Erigor. Sweet old days!!There was a time Natsu used to take lessons from Wakaba.

Seriously those creative uses of fire need to come back at some point

 

[Kiki]

I find Jacob's defeat 'ew'. Especially for Happy suddenly being between his palms. I mean, didn't Happy have no idea at all about Jacob clapping his hands to cast his spatial magic. He was in infirmary, wasn't he. Why was he suddenly there.

But yea though it's disappointing, we have to move on from this battle..

 

[Lord Ainz]

I find Jacob's defeat 'ew'. Especially for Happy suddenly being between his palms. I mean, didn't Happy have no idea at all about Jacob clapping his hands to cast his spatial magic. He was in infirmary, wasn't he. Why was he suddenly there.

But yea though it's disappointing, we have to move on from this battle..

Well Jacob wasn't subtle in his wording before he tried to do that.

 

[Kiki]

Hi people from Fairy Tail forum! I here want to tell you that Manga Awards 2015 now enters voting round. This round will last for one week. Don't miss out!

 

[Asorx]

hey guy i am new here and English is my second language

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anyway have you guy wonder how the mysterious fluid that traps and freezes all of the fairy tail but Lucy back in the tartatos arc and some how she just lucky and her mother some how use her life force to open the gate for the dragon s that just happen be 3rd origin that mention (life force=3rd origin) when Wendy and the other girl fight the (time of god takeover) i forget her name and her know about one magic and told Lucy and also how did Acnologia live for over 400 years and only demons, Celestial Spirit and Zeref,

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and let not forget there is a dragon star (drago

Dragon star "Draco" <3 Maybe August have this key ?

 

[ProGoddess]

I find Jacob's defeat 'ew'. Especially for Happy suddenly being between his palms. I mean, didn't Happy have no idea at all about Jacob clapping his hands to cast his spatial magic. He was in infirmary, wasn't he. Why was he suddenly there.

But yea though it's disappointing, we have to move on from this battle..

This scene actually caught me by surprise. I didn't expect Happy to be so smart to go in between Jacob's palms to disengage the latter from casting his spell. This is actually a brilliant idea. Even Jacob was surprised by it. Who would have thought of that? Thumbs up for Happy (and Mashima).

I kinda take this as a mini plot twist (so to speak) for the beginning of Jacob's downfall, which was then followed by Makarov's and Natsu's punches that ended the enemy.

Besides for forwarding the plot, this scene also serves as a comedic relief for entertainment (or fanservice, to be bluntly speaking) which is very usual for Mashima. Honestly, besides having the continual influx of "stripping scenes" for all these years, I didn't mind the change of comedy. (Well, I understand that some may think otherwise).

 

[Arjuna]

It seems like the Gajeel spin-off will end soon, I had immense fun with it, especially him and Cobra's interactions, it seems like after it will come a Laxus spin-off which as a Laxus fan makes me super hyped, I really can't wait.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...l-gaiden-rhodonite-spinoff-manga-ends/.100609

 

[ProGoddess]

It seems like the Gajeel spin-off will end soon, I had immense fun with it, especially him and Cobra's interactions, it seems like after it will come a Laxus spin-off which as a Laxus fan makes me super hyped, I really can't wait.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...l-gaiden-rhodonite-spinoff-manga-ends/.100609

All the popular characters are getting a spin-off one after another. Nice treats for us, fans.

 

[Brandish μ]

Except, the "cheap shot" here doesn't mean an advantage... If anything, Wahl had the advantage here... Not Laxus. Laxus is at the disadvantage which further supports the topic at hand. By the way, Laxus is not the only one who has a cheap shot. Gray with Ice Devil Slaying Magic is far from being a cheap shot, but you already acknowledged that.

Maybe I'm not understanding here, but aren't we calling Red lightning a cheap shot? According to one of the definition links you posted, it is an unfair advantage or hit. I'd like to know why Laxus used an unfair advantage, if say Gray didn't. They both used magic of their own power (well Gray borrowed his), but it's still their skill-set. To not use an advantage that you have is silly.

The most recent cheap-shot I can think of is DiMaria trying to sneak hit Kagura.

You guys want to know something?

It's really funny that the moderators don't post a whole speech about "Off-Topic Discussions" when the thread goes in their favor.

I think the discussion of Wahl and Laxus is fine, given they are apart of the topic.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Maybe I'm not understanding here, but aren't we calling Red lightning a cheap shot? According to one of the definition links you posted, it is an unfair advantage or hit. I'd like to know why Laxus used an unfair advantage, if say Gray didn't. They both used magic of their own power (well Gray borrowed his), but it's still their skill-set. To not use an advantage that you have is silly.

The most recent cheap-shot I can think of is DiMaria trying to sneak hit Kagura.

From how I understood the debate, we're saying Laxus' win was a cheap shot because of Red Lightning. I guess it was my fault for not putting the numbers of the definitions that I was looking at. Some of them are obviously different and not what I'm talking about like an unfair comment or something. Either way, the way that it was used was pretty much how the informal definition worded it. I won't argue on the meaning of the word as it just keeps us from being on topic. If you don't like the word "cheap shot", and think it means advantage then I'm okay with that, but I will not accept someone telling me that it isn't the right word to use. As far as I'm concerned I have a different definition for the word so if anybody wants to talk about English definitions, we can take it to a different place and debate.

 

[Brandish μ]

From how I understood the debate, we're saying Laxus' win was a cheap shot because of Red Lightning. I guess it was my fault for not putting the numbers of the definitions that I was looking at. Some of them are obviously different and not what I'm talking about like an unfair comment or something. Either way, the way that it was used was pretty much how the informal definition worded it. I won't argue on the meaning of the word as it just keeps us from being on topic. If you don't like the word "cheap shot", and think it means advantage then I'm okay with that, but I will not accept someone telling me that it isn't the right word to use. As far as I'm concerned I have a different definition for the word so if anybody wants to talk about English definitions, we can take it to a different place and debate.

Well it's an informal word (though I don't use urban dictionaries), used often in sports, for unsportsmanlike hits. Laxus didn't do one, he attacked cleanly as in head-on. What I was asking really are the parameters of fair and unfair in the context of a FT battle, because that is what defines a cheap-shot. We can agree to disagree.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Well it's an informal word (though I don't use urban dictionaries), used often in sports, for unsportsmanlike hits. Laxus didn't do one, he attacked cleanly as in head-on. What I was asking really are the parameters of fair and unfair in the context of a FT battle, because that is what defines a cheap-shot. We can agree to disagree.

In a manga, I think what is fair and unfair is very clear. Any attack that involves a dramatic power boost as a result of your Nakama should be considered unfair. Was Erza vs Kyōka fair? How about Azuma or Minerva? The plot was obviously favoring Erza. She didn't show any feats worthy of being able to beat her opponents, but she did because she had to. I don't understand why Laxus is special and everyone has to be protective of him when he is doing the same thing Erza is doing. I can say that Erza's feats were legit because she trained prior to the fight and that the one simple slash of her blade was different from her casual sword strikes... It doesn't cut the fact that her opponents are on on the disadvantage of being up against someone who is supposed to win. That makes it unfair.

 

[Brandish μ]

In a manga, I think what is fair and unfair is very clear. Any attack that involves a dramatic power boost as a result of your Nakama should be considered unfair. Was Erza vs Kyōka fair? How about Azuma or Minerva? The plot was obviously favoring Erza. She didn't show any feats worthy of being able to beat her opponents, but she did because she had to. I don't understand why Laxus is special and everyone has to be protective of him when he is doing the same thing Erza is doing. I can say that Erza's feats were legit because she trained prior to the fight and that the one simple slash of her blade was different from her casual sword strikes... It doesn't cut the fact that her opponents are on on the disadvantage of being up against someone who is supposed to win. That makes it unfair.

PoF is a legit power in this manga, stated many times that power of feelings can become magic power. You might not like it but it is what it is, it is a phenomena of the FT world.

Erza v Kyoka is something I put into BS/asspull, which I think it acceptable for people to call RL (rather than cheap-shot). Azuma literally hit her with the magic power of Fairy Tail - which is why she survived because as Azuma stated FT is protecting her. That is not BS in the FT word. Erza v Minerva is more like Laxus, though there are differences.

The sentence I put in bold from your post is now where you've defined unfair, so now I can understand what you mean by cheap-shot. Basically if you believe someone has to win, and they don't, then they likely got cheap-shotted. If we look at Laxus, who went into the fight possessing Red Lightning, then the cheap-shot is pretty much put down to us as readers finding out he has it. If you knew he had Red Lightning, you would have expected him to win.

I think we have definitions a little different here, but we can agree to disagree on them. Mine is much closer to the sports definition where foul play is concerned. In FT, it would be a sneak attack.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

PoF is a legit power in this manga, stated many times that power of feelings can become magic power. You might not like it but it is what it is, it is a phenomena of the FT world.

Erza v Kyoka is something I put into BS/asspull, which I think it acceptable for people to call RL (rather than cheap-shot). Azuma literally hit her with the magic power of Fairy Tail - which is why she survived because as Azuma stated FT is protecting her. That is not BS in the FT word. Erza v Minerva is more like Laxus, though there are differences.

I don't mind PoF provided it is not used to make the ranking of powers deceiving which is what most people are falling for right now. I respect the fact that Fairy Tail is a story about Hiro Mashima's life and so I support the theme of family and friends which may have been a real impact to his life. This is the legit part and true meaning of PoF. This is not a criticism of the author though. This is a criticism of the feats involved, which is fine. I can guarantee that you can't tell me you liked everything that has happened in all the films, movies, and animes that you have watched. I don't care though. I really hope Natsu beats August in a one on one fight with no help. Please make it happen... I can already imagine an uproar. Why? Because I don't see Laxus in the picture.

Again, I don't know why people all of a sudden are becoming technical with definitions. The definition of cheap shot works. There is no indication of it being the wrong word to describe the battle. Besides, calling something a cheap shot is very much mild compare to the other terms which usually get confused and associated with what most people perceive as anger or bashing which is why I don't use it. I don't mind people not wanting to call it a cheap shot, nor did I expect them to but people shouldn't tell me that I can't use it as it is the wrong word to label the fight. No, the Erza vs Azuma is the closest Laxus' battle with Wahl. He literally used the same technique as Erza except you replace Fairy Tail with Yury Dreyar. I can see Erza vs Minerva also being unrealistic but if we were to compare, Erza vs Azuma is the exact same.

The sentence I put in bold from your post is now where you've defined unfair, so now I can understand what you mean by cheap-shot. Basically if you believe someone has to win, and they don't, then they likely got cheap-shotted. If we look at Laxus, who went into the fight possessing Red Lightning, then the cheap-shot is pretty much put down to us as readers finding out he has it. If you knew he had Red Lightning, you would have expected him to win.

Even if I didn't expect Laxus to have Red Lightning, he would win regardless. For example, someone like Jellal can show up and assist Laxus in defeating Wahl. That would be okay. But because it was intended for Laxus to solo this one, then it would take a much longer fight before I would accept that. But no. Laxus spent about 2 chapters and completely annihilated a Spriggan with a power that was unexplained.

I think we have definitions a little different here, but we can agree to disagree on them. Mine is much closer to the sports definition where foul play is concerned. In FT, it would be a sneak attack.

Okay, then we'll just disagree. I'm perfectly okay with that as I have no intention of making people believe what I say. However, I will become defensive if I am challenged by a word that is not that hard to understand.

 

[Brandish μ]

I don't mind PoF provided it is not used to make the ranking of powers deceiving which is what most people are falling for right now. I respect the fact that Fairy Tail is a story about Hiro Mashima's life and so I support the theme of family and friends which may have been a real impact to his life. This is the legit part and true meaning of PoF. This is not a criticism of the author though. This is a criticism of the feats involved, which is fine. I can guarantee that you can't tell me you liked everything that has happened in all the films, movies, and animes that you have watched. I don't care though. I really hope Natsu beats August in a one on one fight with no help. Please make it happen... I can already imagine an uproar. Why? Because I don't see Laxus in the picture.

Again, I don't know why people all of a sudden are becoming technical with definitions. The definition of cheap shot works. There is no indication of it being the wrong word to describe the battle. Besides, calling something a cheap shot is very much mild compare to the other terms which usually get confused and associated with what most people perceive as anger or bashing which is why I don't use it. I don't mind people not wanting to call it a cheap shot, nor did I expect them to but people shouldn't tell me that I can't use it as it is the wrong word to label the fight. No, the Erza vs Azuma is the closest Laxus' battle with Wahl. He literally used the same technique as Erza except you replace Fairy Tail with Yury Dreyar. I can see Erza vs Minerva also being unrealistic but if we were to compare, Erza vs Azuma is the exact same.



Even if I didn't expect Laxus to have Red Lightning, he would win regardless. For example, someone like Jellal can show up and assist Laxus in defeating Wahl. That would be okay. But because it was intended for Laxus to solo this one, then it would take a much longer fight before I would accept that. But no. Laxus spent about 2 chapters and completely annihilated a Spriggan with a power that was unexplained.



Okay, then we'll just disagree. I'm perfectly okay with that as I have no intention of making people believe what I say. However, I will become defensive if I am challenged by a word that is not that hard to understand.

Well that's right, it is apart of Mashima's creation. I won't mind if Natsu solo's August, I don't really see Laxus coming into it, he's not near the guild. I can also understand you not wanting Laxus to have a part in any fight, that is fine as a fan to want that.

I have no doubt you are familiar with the wording of the definition. I challenge your basis of what unfair is. I am no lawyer, but if you tried to define cheap-shot, a lawyer would probably want to define what unfair is. And given your description, that is where I disagree. Which is ok.