Because Sp12 are meant to be 1ST WIZARD SAINT TIER! Of course they'll be at least around vice admiral level in the one piece verse. Pacifista were machines that Luffy and Co actually managed to damage to an extent, their power level wasn't nearly as far off as Natsu's was from the SP 12 before the timeskip not to mention that Luffy didn't even casually one-shot any of them, he went into 2nd gear and coated his fist in Haki to take one down. Stop the damage control. It's shit and everyone knows it, your just about the only person who's trying to justify this crap. Blackbeard 'ran away' because he already completed his mission, it's all very vague, you can't automatically assume CP-0 agents are stronger then Yonkou, that would mean Rob Lucci > Shanks or Kaido. Do you realise how stupid that sounds?
Once again ,they are different series......U just want ur own point of S-12 = VCs which are just assumptions...."At least" , "should be"..this are vague statements......ONE SHOT casual ? Luffy's power was at a level where using even 3rd gear didn't take a troll on him.....Yes , he used haki which was very
casual for NEW world level......
Damage control. ? Shit ? Why would I be even bothered when u r just using ur own so called set up standards ? Why would I try to justify a non-valid / crap & imaginary arguments ?
U just automatically assumed CP- 0 lower than BLACKBEARD ? Completed his mission so ran away or was forced to run away with his tail betn his legs...Do read the manga properly......
"After clashing briefly , he ran away.What does this mean ?"
Yes and it's bullshit, especially their power spike in comparison to side characters in their OWN VERSE. RIP Jura, RIP GOI, RIP the WS title and most certainly RIP the SP12.
JURA was beaten by LAXUS.......And , it was already proven that JURA was surpassed by then....Is the old gen being surpassed by new gen that hard for u to believe ?......
EXACTLY! LATER! Are you trying to say that RS wasn't his strongest technique at the time or something? Well it clearly was, Natsu ran at Neinhart and punched him.... that's it, not a spell, just a casual freaking punch are you seriously trying to defend that? You arguments are starting to make less and less sense.
Yes , RS of different versions of BIJJUS was his strongest technique not normal RS.......NATSU used brutal power with fire ..So compare it with just NARUTO's brutal strength with RASENGAN not secret arts & techniques.....your arguments are just out of the world......Do u even realize what u r just comparing ? How ?
For the last freaking time, you said Naruto one-shot Kakuzu, you also failed to mention that Kakuzu was already damaged from fighting Kakashi and other people, Naruto then went in and took him down with his most powerful technique at the time. Natsu ran up to a fresh fully powered + Irene enchanted Neinhart and punched him..... he just punched him and took him down.
I wonder what BS you're going to spew to justify that crap.
For the last freaking time , only KAKUZU's 2 hearts were destroyed .....He was more powerful & ready to go than ever......He was not harmed by KAKASHI as u r describing like he was beaten completely , had no other choice....
Not the most powerful technique, he always had access to KYUBBI's power to make it more powerful......NATSU took him down with brutal power.Why can't u understand that simple thing ? KAKUZU had access to KAKASHI's heart & was about to absorb them..
Ok , what can I expect from someone who takes arguments which go against him as BS ?
No I was talking about power spikes over time-skips, Natsu's is clearly by far the most bullshit I've ever seen, especially considering the fact that people from his own verse don't even come close to his power spike. People from his own freaking verse let alone MC's from other verses.
I'm also comparing the power spikes in his own series genius. Even over 7 years people like Jura and Jellal didn't get half as strong as Natsu got in 10 months......
Power over time-skips are different for every series according to their RUNNING- TIME.........Ok , NATSU gained more power over time-skip....What about NARUTO's power-up during the war ? How much power-up was he & SASUKE given at that time.....
Every author gives power-ups when they find suitable.....U wan to compare just time-skips & such......Hope u have not forgotten how NARUTO was able to handle 4 tails of KYUUBI after 2 years & was on a SANIN-level ?
Ok genius , Did SAKURA , TSUNADE , ROCK LEE , KAKASHI , TENTEN , get strong like NARUTO during war in their own verse ? No........
Yes , NATSU has surpassed thm by long shots.......This is how MC of FT will get strong.......
But does it change the fact that it's crap?..... Nope, no it doesn't.
Does it change the fact that u r watching & reading it despite being the crap ?
Does it change the fact that u r arguing constantly despite being the crap ?
Does it change the fact that despite being the crap u still complain every time & still wait for spoilers ?
Does it change the fact that u want to justify yourself so badly by comparing 2 entirely different mangas & set ups despite it being crap ?
Does it change the fact that u can't accept the simple fact that they r 2 diff series & still continue arguing despite it being crap?
Well , does it ?
No , it does not.........I do not want to argue further......Accept the fact this is how things will work here....And stop justifying ur points by taking 2 diff series & making the power levels bases as u see fit according to ur set standards of comparison.......
FT will be FT .And OP & NARUTO are different from them....NATSU will get power up like this.....Accept the fact or don't and get upset every single time.....up to u.
This is the end of argument from my side......If u want to take FT as a crap & complain , do it.....Compare it & get disappointed , do so.....
Still does not change the fact that things will work here like this ...GOODBYE.
though I do wish that he used a much stronger attack against neinheart.
Kenshin beats all of them combined
How could you suggest such a thing?! FT nearing it's end?! 
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