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[Otaku shrink]

According to crunshyrolls translation next issue will be out on may 1st with double chapters

Spoiler

http://www.crunchyroll.com/comics_read/manga?volume_id=217&chapter_num=430.00

Yup. That's actually different than usual, so we'll probably see the next chapters in about a week.

 

[MangerDan]

New chapters are out on thursday the 29th on crunchyroll so they should be out on Wednesday on mp and ms.

 

[nichendrix]

Re: Fairy Tail 441 Discussion/ 442 Predictions

then don't go on an undercover mission an undercover mission is like an assassin and an assissan does not kill or jump into random bs arguments. That kid could die for all I care in an undercover mission your job is to blend in and if someone is being raped, murdered and killed and it seems like the norm get into the shadows and help from there don't make it so obvious your blowing your cover or acting stupid.

That exact stupidity of there's potentially could blow their cover and worse can put other lives in danger too so it makes no sense, without knowing the frame of reference that was a stupid move. The intelligent, smart and fairy tail thing to do is ignore it and move on. I mean come on maybe the kid is evil and committed crimes maybe the father is a criminal for all we know

If you can't do that then don't our new failure of a master erza should not have gone coupled to gray, natsu, lucy and wendy

thats why makarov chose mest for such operations every heinous crime he saw he ignored and erased an undercover job is not for everyone and a true hero can't do it you need a good size amount of balls and guts to do such a mission.

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the problem is after their a year of being humiliated against by puny demons from tataros you think fariy tail members would have gotten more smarter and mature over the years and really thought about the seriousness of this situation. Thats what a one year timeskip means it means smarten up and get mature. Clearly the entire group failed here and so did hiro as an author.

Also now natsu looks less like a hero and more of a dumb monkey ape because he's too powered up right now so he's becoming an asshole and an eye sore and arrogant, he arrogantly is rushing into battles without actually seeing the seriousness of the situation around him and arrogantly assumes by punching people around he can solve the problem.

Before the one year arc erza was clearly stronger then him and gray was his technical equal therefore he wasn't arrogant now he is showing signs of arrogance and he fails to appreciate or understand the strength of his villains and sadly no villain as of yet has given him a full run of natsu's money and none of the current fairy tail members can even kick natsu's ass and put him into line if need be.

also fairy tail needs to get their priorities straight and act smarter. For example perhaps its better to not have a fairy tail guild at all why do you need a guild? just to live together they can do that as is now without renaming and rebuilding the guild fairy tail. And anyways which moron (hiro) said to rename the guild Fairy Tail. Rename the guild under a different rogue name like "Scarlet Haven" or something and use that guild name to complete missions you can even directly infiltrate your enemies guild by simply wanting to join them. Isn't that a smarter plan than saying hey ppl fairy tail's back to kick your ass despite the fact we have no idea who the hell you are and what power level you are stupid stupid childish amateurish move. Right now the enemy is after a specific word it seems fairy tail it is smarter to do what makarov did remove yourself from the name and work in the dark to kill your enemy intelligently.

Sadly makarov will be reelected as the next guild member (once found) as i feel erza made too many mistakes to be called a proper master anymore.

I think you missed the whole point of most if not all Shonen Manga... but that's just me.

 

[amit-monsterman999]

Re: Fairy Tail 441 Discussion/ 442 Predictions

I think you missed the whole point of most if not all Shonen Manga... but that's just me.

i get the point of manga and how it works im just wondering isn't this entirely being counter productive i mean natsu said he went to train to get stronger now how is this being strong when you idiotically put your friends in more harm then good and you fail to acknowledge it. Also why isnt the main character natsu and several others in several mangas like luffy even ever serious of the gravity of the situation around its one thing to joke around and make light of the situation it's a different matter to turn goku and become an idiot in the situation and act like your going to a beach party and not care for the situation.

But i'm now also wondering something if characters derived and that are like goku (i.e.natsu, luffy, etc...) might actually be real and true heros. These guys so stupid that at some accounts that they can actually make the honest to good decision without actually thinking and contemplating about the consequences (like a child) they pick the right honest answer.

A smart person would think 4 if not 100 times whether to do what those characters did in their adventures if not a smart character would even try to benefit himself while acting like a hero?

so perhaps to be a hero means to be stupid at some base account while a villain means to be smart then

 

[nichendrix]

Re: Fairy Tail 441 Discussion/ 442 Predictions

i get the point of manga and how it works im just wondering isn't this entirely being counter productive i mean natsu said he went to train to get stronger now how is this being strong when you idiotically put your friends in more harm then good and you fail to acknowledge it. Also why isnt the main character natsu and several others in several mangas like luffy even ever serious of the gravity of the situation around its one thing to joke around and make light of the situation it's a different matter to turn goku and become an idiot in the situation and act like your going to a beach party and not care for the situation.

But i'm now also wondering something if characters derived and that are like goku (i.e.natsu, luffy, etc...) might actually be real and true heros. These guys so stupid that at some accounts that they can actually make the honest to good decision without actually thinking and contemplating about the consequences (like a child) they pick the right honest answer.

A smart person would think 4 if not 100 times whether to do what those characters did in their adventures if not a smart character would even try to benefit himself while acting like a hero?

so perhaps to be a hero means to be stupid at some base account while a villain means to be smart then

The problem is that you don't take into account the culture where these stories come from. In Japan and most east Asia, children have to deal very early in their lives with an insane amount of social presure, so they tend to like goofy characters that have the freedom to do what they don't in what they see as a "free, devil may care" lifestile. That's why characters like Goku is still so popular despite being first released 30 years ago, and why the like so much characters like Naruto, Natsu, and Luffy, because unlike them, they have a life of fun and excitement without much in terms of social pressure or family expectations.

My father's younger brother went to Japan to get his PhD, and there he met his wife and had the first 2 of his 3 children, when I visited him the first time, I was somewhat chocked to see that my 6 and 4 years old "japanese" cousins already have to deal with a lot of tasks at home and at school that I at age 15 never had to at least until I was 10, some of it I still didn't have to deal at age 15.

So I really don't think they are up to see more of what they already have to deal with in everyday life in one of their free time and escapist activities.

 

[shane1594]

Re: Fairy Tail 443 Discussion/ 444 Predictions

We might not know for a while gray noticed something was up as well so he might confront natsu about it later on. kinda leaning on natsu dragonizing, I could see it being a kind of teaser for the movies events plus I don't they'll show dragon force before the manga, however like I said on the promo pic for the movie it's his other arm that's fully dragonized and he still has the bandages on his left arm.

E.n.d has been hinted at more as well and there's been a few instances where Natsu's said a few suspicious things like gray being possessed by a demon things like that. Hiro throws hints everywhere at first we thought natsu was just being natsu pretending to be the great demon lord dragneel, but plot twists he is an actual demon.

Okay, what the hell's this about a movie? Priestess of the Phoenix was released years ago, and nowhere I've looked has ever mentioned anything about a second one.

 

[mars23]

Re: Fairy Tail 443 Discussion/ 444 Predictions

Okay, what the hell's this about a movie? Priestess of the Phoenix was released years ago, and nowhere I've looked has ever mentioned anything about a second one.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-15/fairy-tail-manga-gets-2nd-anime-film/.88197

Spoiler: Image from Ch 435

 

[shane1594]

Re: Fairy Tail 443 Discussion/ 444 Predictions

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-15/fairy-tail-manga-gets-2nd-anime-film/.88197

Spoiler: Image from Ch 435

Thanks. Hopefully Mashima will not be involved in the writing of the movie itself...unless he acts as an assistant writer. Who knows, it could improve his ability as a storyteller.

 

[Erinyes]

Arslan senki's episode 14 endcard, by Hiro Mashima :

Edit :

Mashima will be drawing Parasyte One-Shot Manga

The September issue of Kodansha's Afternoon magazine is announcing on Saturday that manga creator Hiro Mashima (Fairy Tail) will draw a one-shot based on Hitoshi Iwaaki's Parasyte manga for the magazine's October issue, which Kodansha will publish on August 25. The magazine teases the one-shot:

A parasite approaches the peaceful guild?!

The one-shot is the 9th in a series of original "Neo Kiseijū" (Neo Parasyte) stories by different creators. The project is promoting the Parasyte -the maxim- television anime, which ended in March. Akira Hiramoto (Me and the Devil Blues), Riichi Ueshiba (Mysterious Girlfriend X), and Ryoji Minagawa (Peacemaker) previously wrote one-shots for the series.

Source : ANN

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A new spin-off : Fairy Tail Gaiden - Kengami no Sôryû

There is a new Fairy Tail spin-off! It Focuses and Sting and Rogue, and is titled 『FAIRY TAIL 外伝 剣咬の双竜』 (Fairy Tail spin-off The Twin Dragons of Sabertooth). It’s drawn by 芝野郷太 (Kyôta Shibano).

The spin-off is only available for purchase via the new Magazine Poket app.

Source : Thefairytales + http://www.shonenmagazine.com/special/magazinepocket/

 

[GOOMOONRYONG]

I just started reading this last week and I have to say this manga gets really predictable and boring. I mean it really is the same formula over and over for every single arc, I'm up to chapter 318 but does it get any better?

 

[milek]

I just started reading this last week and I have to say this manga gets really predictable and boring. I mean it really is the same formula over and over for every single arc, I'm up to chapter 318 but does it get any better?

Am not sure what to say. How can you say that its boring when you got to 318 chapter. If you dont like manga then stop reading it. That same formula goes on and on and i like that.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

I noticed something. You say all this about underrating characters, but you think that Makarov and Jellal are weaker than Mirajane. That Jiemma is worthy of being on the list, yet Erza and Gajeel are not. This is despite outright admitting that Gray is on Gajeel's level. Then you have Gray and Natsu ranked above Laxus. If anyone is being underrated here, it's got to be Gajeel. You refuse to acknowledge a character, whom by your own admission would be stronger than Laxus, in your top 10 list.

I'd say Gajeel is stronger than Gray by a fair bit. Sure Gay has Demon Slaying magic and he took out some Etherious, big deal. He had his magic topped off by Silver and only beat them via Demon Slaying Magic. Gajeel should've unlocked Dragon Force by now, so with that he'd be leagues ahead of Gray. Heck, even Gajeel's Iron-Shadow Dragon form should be a bit stronger than Gray.

As for power levels, I'd say that we can't actually say how powerful Zeref is without seeing him fight.
My list for the strongest characters that we've would be:
1. Hades
2. Mard Geer
3. Gildarts
4. Natsu
5. Jura
6. Laxus
7. Jiemma
8. Kyouka
9. Erza
10. Bluenote

My list is a little subjective to how I feel characters would be in terms of absolute power going as hard as they can in battle as well as their potential to grow further. Also, I'm not counting Makarov as I feel like he's not actually that notable a mage anymore nor is he relevant to the story that much. I mean, you saw how he tried and failed to protect the guild members in Arbaless.

 

[Nemispelled]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

I agree with @Axiomus. Deliora isn't actually that strong, its just that the areas he devastated had weaker mages and their magic wasn't very effective against him. Also, CSK is probably just as krusty as that War God Natsu destroyed. Dragons are the strongest creatures around from what we've seen, and Demons like Deliora are nowhere near the power of Acnologia and Igneel back when he was alive. Mard Geer is the strongest Etherious apart from E.N.D, so a prime creation of Zeref's being able to fight with on par with a krusty being with limited power isn't too farfetched. Deliora, another creation of Zeref's, and one sizeably weaker than other Etherious, wouldn't be worth beans in a fight against a Dragon.

You have your opinions, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm in no haste to say Deliora is weaker than the dragons. There is no proof and I beg to differ when you say that Deliora only took the lives of weak towns and mages.

Yes, we don't know how strong the northern continent was, but to say that Ur was not an example is almost as invalid as it can get. Deliora was feared across the continent and caused havoc to the point that the northern continent had a fallout and is now a barren wasteland. Ur didn't fight Deliora and lose. Ur KNEW she never stood a chance. I read Fairy Tail Ice Trail and Gildartz and Ur were both powerful mages, not too different in terms of magical power. If Ur knew she was beat against Deliora and could not save innocent civilians from the North, the Deliora is significant enough to be on par with the dragons.

 

[Axiomus]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

Deliora only took the lives of weak towns. Ice Trail had Ultear gawking at how he destroyed the snowman in one hit. On what basis do you have to say that she's as strong as Gildarts?

Makarov oneshotted a wizard saint. One that was owning Erza. Jellal didn't fight too well against Oracion Seis? The guy solo'd them. Jiemma was slaughtered by the twin dragons. Natsu solo'd the twin dragons in base form. Gajeel's ISD form is on par with Natsu's LFD. With or without nakama power, Erza is easily a match for Natsu and Gray. Both of the latter have their share of nakama power too. Erza > Azuma > Mirajane. Erza got second origin. Erza beat Kyouka. Mirajane is somehow stronger because she "resisted a demon" at a young age. XD

I'm beginning to see a clear pattern here. Characters you like, you argue for. Characters you don't like, you bash.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

You have your opinions, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm in no haste to say Deliora is weaker than the dragons. There is no proof and I beg to differ when you say that Deliora only took the lives of weak towns and mages.

Yes, we don't know how strong the northern continent was, but to say that Ur was not an example is almost as invalid as it can get. Deliora was feared across the continent and caused havoc to the point that the northern continent had a fallout and is now a barren wasteland. Ur didn't fight Deliora and lose. Ur KNEW she never stood a chance. I read Fairy Tail Ice Trail and Gildartz and Ur were both powerful mages, not too different in terms of magical power. If Ur knew she was beat against Deliora and could not save innocent civilians from the North, the Deliora is significant enough to be on par with the dragons.

Deliora was feared only because of its size and the destruction it brought about when moving around. Just because it destroyed a lot of towns and doesn't mean its on par with a dragon. Deliora for one moved sluggishly, so a Dragon could avoid its attacks with their fast speed. As for its destructive power, sure its not bad, but can you really compare that to a Dragon like Acnologia who obliterated a whole island with one attack? No. Deliora from what we've seen didn't have the capability to cause destruction of such a level. It really is nowhere near a Dragon's power.

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Deliora only took the lives of weak towns. Ice Trail had Ultear gawking at how powerful he was compared to her. On what basis do you have to say that she's as strong as Gildarts? http://mangafox.me/manga/tale_of_fairy_ice_trail_koori_no_kiseki/c005/21.html

Makarov oneshotted a wizard saint. One that was owning Erza. Jellal didn't fight too well against Oracion Seis? The guy solo'd them. Jiemma was slaughtered by the twin dragons. Natsu solo'd the twin dragons in base form. Gajeel's ISD form is on par with Natsu's LFD. With or without nakama power, Erza is easily a match for Natsu and Gray. Both of the latter have their share of nakama power too. Erza > Azuma > Mirajane. Erza got second origin. Erza beat Kyouka. Mirajane is somehow stronger because she "resisted a demon" at a young age. XD

I'm beginning to see a clear pattern here.

I haven't read Ice Trail so I only took my conclusions from what I knew of Deliora from the main manga. I'd still say its not as powerful as a Dragon though.

 

[Holt]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

What are you talking about? My list is as it is and I stand by it with evidence. Makarov is old and frail now especially at the end of Tartaros. His age causes him to lose strength. Jellal as I said didn't fight too well against Oracion Seis, the six guys that hadn't been training at all since Nirvana incident and had no exercise the 7-8 years they were trapped in prison.

Do recall that Jellal fought the entire oracion seis on his own pre ts and successfully defeated them all in a short while. Also, in the short fight he had with Jura, he seemed to have the upper hand.

I also said in another post that Gajeel ate shadow, an element that he should not be able to. I'll let that pass, but it is still something that is poorly explained. He needed that kiss from Levy (Lolz) when he fought Torafusa. He needed help and would be screwed if it weren't for Levy.

Natsu ate lightning and no one fuses about it so I don't see why Gajeel's case is different. The kiss was to give him air. You should remember that Natsu had already been Knocked out by Torafusa's water.

Gray and Natsu are above Laxus and Silver (something you should be happy about cuz your boy is stronger than Laxus).

That's a pretty baseless statement tbh. Silver froze an entire village filled with Giants and the remains of a dragon soul. Gray may have gotten strong, but he simply has shown anything that implies he is above Silver. How can Natsu be above Laxus? Also pretty baseless tbh. We did see Laxus' casual attack which even a spriggan 12 was worried about. In other words, both Gray and Natsu haven't shown feats that shows that they are certainly above silver and Laxus. You may think so, but it's not actually something backed by the manga.

I don't even get your last statement. Which character did I say would be stronger than Laxus? Not Erza and Gajeel, I can assure you that. Mira I put up there because that is simply my opinion. Mira, like Gray, Bacchus, and Kagura, have all been downgraded and put in the worst situation possible in every one of their battles. As shown in recent episodes, Mira conquered a demon as a mere kid, and could destroy towns with her amount of magical power. Don't forget that Mira could resist possession at her young age, and something Jellal failed to do when he was possessed by Ultear. Pynchon, don't make me laugh

Mira conquering a demon while impressive is due to her magic type. Ultear is also a very capable Mage who was personally tutored by Hades himself. There aren't really grounds to compare both of them.

 

[Nemispelled]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

Deliora only took the lives of weak towns. Ice Trail had Ultear gawking at how powerful he was compared to her: http://mangafox.me/manga/tale_of_fairy_ice_trail_koori_no_kiseki/c005/21.html

Makarov oneshotted a wizard saint. One that was owning Erza. Jellal didn't fight too well against Oracion Seis? The guy solo'd them. Jiemma was slaughtered by the twin dragons. Natsu solo'd the twin dragons in base form. Gajeel's ISD form is on par with Natsu's LFD. With or without nakama power, Erza is easily a match for Natsu and Gray. Both of the latter have their share of nakama power too. Erza > Azuma > Mirajane. Erza got second origin. Erza beat Kyouka. Mirajane is somehow stronger because she "resisted a demon" at a young age. XD

I'm beginning to see a clear pattern here.

Totally wrong here. My list was for end of Tartaros arc.

- Makarov was old and frail by then. The age has taken toll on his body significantly after Tenrou. Even Hades saw that.
- Yeah Jellal solo' them, at the cost of his two eyes. For prisoners who could compete against pre-time skip Lucy and had no exercise, it was a poor victory.
- Jiemma lost fair and square and the twin dragons are not strong, correct. Idk if it was a fluke or what, the fact is Jiemma was the strongest Nine Demon Gate by Mard Geer's word, that means he wa supposedly near Silver's power.

- For the last time, Mira did not lose against Azuma. The entire community has got this thing wrong and it is almost shocking. A lot of people should re watch that fight cuz if you did, you would know Mira had Azuma beat, she didn't take out Azuma because she made it just in time to absorb the power of the magical time bomb on Lisanna. Something that would kill 90% of the members of FT. Erza could have died twice against Azuma, but Azuma let her slip by.

 

[Axiomus]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

Deliora obliterated a street.
Motherglare obliterated a mountain.
Grandeeney obliterated several hundred targets over a continent.
Acnologia obliterated a Igneel, a dragon king
You see the difference here?

- Makarov tanked Amertasu 100. He tanked a Jupiter cannon with his arm. Something that required Erza's adamantine armor. He can still cast Fairy Law. Makarov is frail and weak is a weak excuse.
- Whom out of the Oracion Seis would pre-TS Lucy beat no help? Scratch that. Which out of the Oracion Seis did any of team Natsu beat no help?
- All that goes to prove that demons aren't that strong, considering the penultimate rank within Tartarus was taken out by the twin dragons. Sting and Rogue didn't just beat Jiemma. They skewered and killed him with an attack that future Rogue used against Natsu. That's a stronger version of Rogue that took Sting's power. Again, Gajeel's ISD can compete with Natsu's LFD. No reason he should be weaker than Jiemma. None. Mard's words isn't a reason.
- Mirajane scratched Azuma at best.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

- Yeah Jellal solo' them, at the cost of his two eyes. For prisoners who could compete against pre-time skip Lucy and had no exercise, it was a poor victory.

What do you mean at the cost of his eyes? Sure he crushed them to dispell Midnight's Nightmare magic at the time, but they were back to normal at the end of the Tartaros Arc as you see when he and Oracion Seis passed by Erza in Magnolia.

 

[Nemispelled]

Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread

Deliora was feared only because of its size and the destruction it brought about when moving around. Just because it destroyed a lot of towns and doesn't mean its on par with a dragon. Deliora for one moved sluggishly, so a Dragon could avoid its attacks with their fast speed. As for its destructive power, sure its not bad, but can you really compare that to a Dragon like Acnologia who obliterated a whole island with one attack? No. Deliora from what we've seen didn't have the capability to cause destruction of such a level. It really is nowhere near a Dragon's power.

I may have mislead you. Deliora was not in Ice Trail, so you didn't miss on anything. Although what I am about to explain is something that everybody in this forum and the community should know. This is my most important comment that I will probably ever say on this forum.


First to let everybody know about Acnologia. When you compare anything to Dragons, you can only talk about the typical dragons all the way up to Igneel. You can't talk about Acnologia because he is one of a kind and I will explain.

Acnologia was once a human and inherited dragon slaying magic much like Nastu. The difference is that he wasn't as strong as we know him because he was a dragon. Acnologia was not a strong dragon, but a strong human.

Acnologia already had the power of an elite dragon at the time he was slaying dragons with his dragons slaying magic, prior to his dragonification. Therefore, Acnologia is not Acnologia because he inherited the power of a dragon. He is who he is because he inherited dragon slaying magic.

So Acnologia is not an example of a dragon because he is in a class of his own, he destroyed the entire dragon race by himself before turning into a dragon.

That means that his raw strength and magical power exceeded that of a dragon regardless of his physical body and look.

I get that anything I say is not of much use, so I don't have to continue this any further, but this is where I stand now.