Hangout Fairy Tail Hangout Thread

[SirSamuel016]

Seeing we're sharing our votes, here were mine for the Manga Awards 2015!
Best Written Manga: Tokyo Ghoul:re
Best Shounen Manga: Fairy Tail
Best Seinen Manga: Tokyo Ghoul / TG:re
Best Ongoing Manga: Tokyo Ghoul:re
Best Completed Manga: Naruto
Best New Manga: Boku No Hero Academia
Best Battle: Natsu Dragneel vs Zeref Dragneel (Fairy Tail)
Best Mangaka: Sui Ishida (Tokyo Ghoul)
Best Major Male Character: Natsu Dragneel (Fairy Tail)
Best Major Female Character: Erza Scarlet (Fairy Tail)
Best Minor Male Character: Laxus Dreyar (Fairy Tail)
Best Minor Female Character: Ultear Milkovich (Fairy Tail)
Best Plot Twist: E.N.D (Fairy Tail)
Best Death: Ginshi Shirazu (Tokyo Ghoul:re)
Best Villain: Nimura Furata (Tokyo Ghoul:re)Best Full Cast: Fairy Tail
Best Artwork: Tokyo Ghoul:re

 

[Kiki]

MangaHelpers 2015 Manga Awards winners

 

[Libarian]

Question, any word on when the laxus spinoff coming out?

 

[Tryndamere]

 

[Raven]

Most of Main ( and maybe even side characetrs ) cast will get a power up it's gonna happen sooner or later people can dislike one character power up but accept other it all go to how much they like/dislike character that receive new powers

It's fine if someone dislike everything about a certain character but it's not fine to be a hypocrite, For example X Character got a power up in x arc and plot relevancy so don't hate character Y because he/she will probobaly get the same treatment like X character in Y arc.

 

[Laxus]

It's fine if someone dislike everything about a certain character but it's not fine to be a hypocrite, For example X Character got a power up in x arc and plot relevancy so don't hate character Y because he/she will probobaly get the same treatment like X character in Y arc.

But there is a big difference: How the writer makes it believable, logcial and important.
Thing is, everyone can get a power up and plot relevancy but it all lies in how the writer makes logical and not full of BS.Irene being related to Erza is forced and there is no denying on that...

- Erza's development reached his limits in TH and even tho Kagura was also meant to make Erza relevant (Dont take me wrong i like Kagura) the later outcome of her character was alright and justifiable. Now we have Irene to make Erza once again relevant to the story when she doesnt need one... WHat is next? We will have Levy's parents? Mirajane's missing brother? Cmon... It would be better if we got a hint of Irene in sometime before (no matter when).

- Natsu's power up in most of his Arc are just pure trash I wont even talk about that again. On the other hand I did not mind FDKM + Igneel since it was a time only but I do mind how after a year Natsu suddenly can out match a Spriggan with ease... If you actually see Natsu, he is a "cheater". Always having free powers given to him so he could defeat the big shots... (majority of the times). Natsu was far behind Gildarts a year ago but now he is possible leagues ahead? That is just lazy writing to rush Natsu to an absurb power level... And this is BS.

- Gray power up only came in Tartaros. If you look at the whole perspective it is justifiable how Silver got involved... He was killed by a Demon and Keith was looking for it and he stumbled upon Silver's body. In a way makes sense. Gray power up can have to sides since he immediately got the power but atleast Silver explained the only reason he has DeS is because he made is specially for Gray. Atleast Gray also trained that mode in the timeskip.

- Lucy power up was also legit. She had to sacrifice something in order to achieve the first insight of Stardress which later on she managed to control it on her own.

From the main cast, Natsu and Erza are the ones who make everything much more doubtful, forced and boring (most of the times).

 

[Raven]

But there is a big difference: How the writer makes it believable, logcial and important.
Thing is, everyone can get a power up and plot relevancy but it all lies in how the writer makes logical and not full of BS.Irene being related to Erza is forced and there is no denying on that...

- Erza's development reached his limits in TH and even tho Kagura was also meant to make Erza relevant (Dont take me wrong i like Kagura) the later outcome of her character was alright and justifiable. Now we have Irene to make Erza once again relevant to the story when she doesnt need one... WHat is next? We will have Levy's parents? Mirajane's missing brother? Cmon... It would be better if we got a hint of Irene in sometime before (no matter when).

- Natsu's power up in most of his Arc are just pure trash I wont even talk about that again. On the other hand I did not mind FDKM + Igneel since it was a time only but I do mind how after a year Natsu suddenly can out match a Spriggan with ease... If you actually see Natsu, he is a "cheater". Always having free powers given to him so he could defeat the big shots... (majority of the times). Natsu was far behind Gildarts a year ago but now he is possible leagues ahead? That is just lazy writing to rush Natsu to an absurb power level... And this is BS.

- Gray power up only came in Tartaros. If you look at the whole perspective it is justifiable how Silver got involved... He was killed by a Demon and Keith was looking for it and he stumbled upon Silver's body. In a way makes sense. Gray power up can have to sides since he immediately got the power but atleast Silver explained the only reason he has DeS is because he made is specially for Gray. Atleast Gray also trained that mode in the timeskip.

- Lucy power up was also legit. She had to sacrifice something in order to achieve the first insight of Stardress which later on she managed to control it on her own.

From the main cast, Natsu and Erza are the ones who make everything much more doubtful, forced and boring (most of the times).

1- Gray got his BS power up and plot relevancy in tartarous, Silver was forced from no where with unknown power Demon slaying magic with no source and with a stupid reason to fight E.N.D. he didn't even see any harm from E.N.D. and why he learned ice demon magic because E.N.D. is a fire demon also a free power for gray if you consider this bs as a good writing then don't be angry at Erza's case because she will get one just like gray in the current arc and don't jump to the conclusions moreover who told you erza reached her prime develpolment ?are you mashima ? Erza used to be = Gray in terms of plot relevancy so you argument is invalid.

2- You consider Natsu power up is bs i don't consider it Bs, It was well written and very obvious and it was hinted before that Natsu power is limitless don't blame Hiro when you can't see what is coming. Tartarous Natsu was weak and the arc carried a develpoment set up for Natsu to become stronger because he couldn't defeat 1 single opponent on his own, he couldn't defend his father he was uselsss so he decided to go and train, in Avater Natsu was very strong his develpoment was a success..

3- It was clearly illustrated How BDKM worked again so don't bring this again.

4- Most of Ft fans love and support Natsu and his fights so don't speak like you are many you are only few numbers compared to the whole ft fandom.

Don't compare Natsu to anyone because he is the main deal/character. MC. number 1 character.

 

[Baston]

1- Gray got his BS power up and plot relevancy in tartarous, Silver was forced from no where with unknown power Demon slaying magic with no source and with a stupid reason to fight E.N.D. he didn't even see any harm from E.N.D. and why he learned ice demon magic because E.N.D. is a fire demon also a free power for gray if you consider this bs as a good writing then don't be angry at Erza's case because she will get one just like gray in the current arc and don't jump to the conclusions moreover who told you erza reached her prime develpolment ?are you mashima ? Erza used to be = Gray in terms of plot relevancy so you argument is invalid.

2- You consider Natsu power up is bs i don't consider it Bs, It was well written and very obvious and it was hinted before that Natsu power is limitless don't blame Hiro when you can't see what is coming. Tartarous Natsu was weak and the arc carried a develpoment set up for Natsu to become stronger because he couldn't defeat 1 single opponent on his own, he couldn't defend his father he was uselsss so he decided to go and train, in Avater Natsu was very strong his develpoment was a success..

3- It was clearly illustrated How BDKM worked again so don't bring this again.

4- Most of Ft fans love and support Natsu and his fights so don't speak like you are many you are only few numbers compared to the whole ft fandom.

Don't compare Natsu to anyone because he is the main deal/character. MC. number 1 character.

1-Gray's powerup was not BS. It was foreshadowed in two arcs, he was able to use it on his own, and the nature of the magic is very similar to ice make, he's sticking to an element that he has been using from the start. Silver wasn't forced from anywhere, he was experimented on by Keith after being found by him, and since Silver has actual prowess, Keith found him worthy of to being controlled. Silver was in two arcs, and was one of the earliest Tartaros members to do introduced. The reason to fight END is pretty legit considering how much knowledge and intel Silver had on the situation. It's not a free powerup, Gray worked pretty damn hard to gain that powerup to fulfill his father's goal, to a point that it's implied Silver found Gray earning it enough to have it considerind how much pain, anguish and tragic sequences, he caused to Gray for him to move on from Deliora. This isn't BS. It's actually good writing, something that you don't how to comprehend with and confuse it to "BS" writing. Your argument is invalid. Gray's power up and Silver's introduction was well done and made.

2) Natsu's powerup is considerably BS. It's terrible awful shit writing. Where's the foreshadowing? He gets constant powerups of his ass with no repercussions or consequences. He gained a freebie BS Powerup out of nowhere. Even when there's a risk, it's magically solved in a chapter later thanks to some forced bs healing out of nowhere given to him. If you consider this BS writing and development from Natsu as "well written" , then don't be mad at Gray for having good writing delivered to his powers.

3) Yeah and Laxus (the poster) did a well job in illustrating that. Lucy (even though I dislike her)'s powerup was very legit and well written compared to Natsu and Erza's.

4)Most of FT Fans outside of Japan hate Natsu's guts. They find him to be an awful one dimensional non-developed poorly written character with a stale personality. They are high numbers of people that hate him.

Irrelevant if he's the MC. That's beside the point.

 

[Jko]

4)Most of FT Fans outside of Japan hate Natsu's guts. They find him to be an awful one dimensional non-developed poorly written character with a stale personality. They are high numbers of people that hate him.

You're totally being subjective now lol. There is as high if not higher number of people that like him more than they hate him.

 

[Baston]

You're totally being subjective now lol. There is as high if not higher number of people that like him more than they hate him.

No that isn't subjective. Outside of japan, the haters outclass the people that like him.
There's even a hate Natsu Dragneel fanbook club that has plenty of members rising every day.

 

[Jko]

No that isn't subjective. Outside of japan, the haters outclass the people that like him.
There's even a hate Natsu Dragneel fanbook club that has plenty of members rising every day.

One or two website isn't a whole lot when considering the audience as whole. Just like there is a hate club there will be a fan club. The people that like him outclasses the people who hate him. He does have one of the biggest factions in the fandom backing him too.

 

[Baston]

One or two website isn't a whole lot when considering the audience as whole. Just like there is a hate club there will be a fan club. The people that like him outclasses the people who hate him. He does have one of the biggest factions in the fandom backing him too.

One or two websites? Talk about several forums, and other message boards backing that up as well. Yes he has plenty of people that like him, but they don't overcome the magnitude of people that hate him.

 

[Jko]

One or two websites? Talk about several forums, and other message boards backing that up as well. Yes he has plenty of people that like him, but they don't overcome the magnitude of people that hate him.

And you think several forums and message board even equate to 1% of the whole fandom? This manga is viewed and liked all over the world and you think a couple forums and message boards are really the majority? Heck the biggest pairing in the show is Natsu and Lucy and you really think they'd be the number 1 pairing if the majority disliked Natsu? Natsu is way more liked then disliked.

 

[Asorx]

And you think several forums and message board even equate to 1% of the whole fandom? This manga is viewed and liked all over the world and you think a couple forums and message boards are really the majority? Heck the biggest pairing in the show is Natsu and Lucy and you really think they'd be the number 1 pairing if the majority disliked Natsu? Natsu is way more liked then disliked.

We know that but he said in JAPAN.

 

[Raven]

1-Gray's powerup was not BS. It was foreshadowed in two arcs, he was able to use it on his own, and the nature of the magic is very similar to ice make, he's sticking to an element that he has been using from the start. Silver wasn't forced from anywhere, he was experimented on by Keith after being found by him, and since Silver has actual prowess, Keith found him worthy of to being controlled. Silver was in two arcs, and was one of the earliest Tartaros members to do introduced. The reason to fight END is pretty legit considering how much knowledge and intel Silver had on the situation. It's not a free powerup, Gray worked pretty damn hard to gain that powerup to fulfill his father's goal, to a point that it's implied Silver found Gray earning it enough to have it considerind how much pain, anguish and tragic sequences, he caused to Gray for him to move on from Deliora. This isn't BS. It's actually good writing, something that you don't how to comprehend with and confuse it to "BS" writing. Your argument is invalid. Gray's power up and Silver's introduction was well done and made.

2) Natsu's powerup is considerably BS. It's terrible awful shit writing. Where's the foreshadowing? He gets constant powerups of his ass with no repercussions or consequences. He gained a freebie BS Powerup out of nowhere. Even when there's a risk, it's magically solved in a chapter later thanks to some forced bs healing out of nowhere given to him. If you consider this BS writing and development from Natsu as "well written" , then don't be mad at Gray for having good writing delivered to his powers.

3) Yeah and Laxus (the poster) did a well job in illustrating that. Lucy (even though I dislike her)'s powerup was very legit and well written compared to Natsu and Erza's.

4)Most of FT Fans outside of Japan hate Natsu's guts. They find him to be an awful one dimensional non-developed poorly written character with a stale personality. They are high numbers of people that hate him.

Irrelevant if he's the MC. That's beside the point.

This is a bait post tho i ll give you respect.

Silver wasn't forced from anywhere --> He was dead and brought back to life it has never been foreshadowed that he was alive again in Tartarous we saw silver watching Gray at Grand magic games, Actually at GMG silver wasn't introduced so the whole silver thing is bs plot relevancy.
Gray worked too hard for this power up -- > In fact he didn't do any training he inhertied that Bs aweful power up from his father and you brought the word "foreshadowing" to the field it has never been foreshadowed that the father power can transfered to the son so it was a huge asspulls from no where therefore it's a free power up for gray.

Natsu's power up is better written than Gray's power up at any case.

Most of FT Fans outside of Japan hate Natsu --> ROFL look at this

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Mashima fans are 830k on twitter, The fans who like Natsu are 863k. They love Natsu more than the mangaka himself all over the world

Natsu Dragneel fans dominating the popularity in fairy tail inside and outside japan btw why ? because he is the best /well written character, he is the man.

Sadly not a single word in your post is true, all is from your assumptions and personal taste.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 29, 2016 ---

For everyone Here is the character popularity all over the world. You can clearly see who is the most Prefered character and who is the least prefered character all over the world, Believe it or not i don't want to post picture this because i respect all fans and it may give some guys negative feedback but i had to show you all the truth i'm sick and tired from the hypocrisy i find nowadays. It really hurts my feelings when some hate and bash my favorite character in public this way.
k lets start with the character popularity all over the world.
1- Mashima

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2- Lucy heartfilia.

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3- Erza Scarlet

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4- Natsu Dragneel

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5- Gray fullbuster

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[Asorx]

This is a bait post tho i ll give you respect.

Silver wasn't forced from anywhere --> He was dead and brought back to life it has never been foreshadowed that he was alive again in Tartarous we saw silver watching Gray at Grand magic games, Actually at GMG silver wasn't introduced so the whole silver thing is bs plot relevancy.
Gray worked too hard for this power up -- > In fact he didn't do any training he inhertied that Bs aweful power up from his father and you brought the word "foreshadowing" to the field it has never been foreshadowed that the father power can transfered to the son so it was a huge asspulls from no where therefore it's a free power up for gray.

Natsu's power up is better written than Gray's power up at any case.

Most of FT Fans outside of Japan hate Natsu --> ROFL look at this

Spoiler

Mashima fans are 830k on twitter, The fans who like Natsu are 863k. They love Natsu more than the mangaka himself all over the world

Natsu Dragneel fans dominating the popularity in fairy tail inside and outside japan btw why ? because he is the best /well written character, he is the man.

Sadly not a single word in your post is true, all is from your assumptions and personal taste.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 29, 2016, Original Post Date: Apr 29, 2016 ---

For everyone Here is the character popularity all over the world. You can clearly see who is the most Prefered character and who is the least prefered character all over the world, Believe it or not i don't want to post picture this because i respect all fans but i had to show you all the truth i'm sick and tired from the hypocrisy i find nowadays. It really hurts my feelings when some hate and bash my favorite character in public this way.
k lets start with the character popularity all over the world.
1- Mashima

Spoiler

2- Lucy heartfilia.

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3- Erza Scarlet

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4- Natsu Dragneel

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5- Gray fullbuster

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look on this photo is popularity in Fairy Tail. Lucy is in 1 pleace, Natsu on 2. All characters have hate and that may be true but we don't know.

 

[Raven]

look on this photo is popularity in Fairy Tail. Lucy is in 1 pleace, Natsu on 2. All characters have hate and that may be true but we don't know.

The popularity you saw in my post related to all over the world fans not In Japan only i'm killing this fake theory that outside japan people who hate natsu are great than people who love him and i already killed it. it's okay to hate any character it's up to you really it will not increase or decrease anything from you but at least show some respect to other fans.

 

[Asorx]

The popularity you saw in my post related to all over the world fans not In Japan only i'm killing this fake theory that outside japan people who hate natsu are great than people who love him and i already killed it. it's okay to hate any character it's up to you really it will not increase or decrease anything from you but at least show some respect to other fans.

Yea i know. Natsu is my 2th favourite character I don't like when peoples hate one character and blame him. If someone blame Lucy or Natsu iam really angry.

 

[BluePegasus]

I really liked Natsu before he was overpowered like he is now. I'm starting to hate every power up he receives instead DF.

 

[GamerSkull]

I really liked Natsu before he was overpowered like he is now. I'm starting to hate every power up he receives instead DF.

I personally like Natsu myself but I can see why others don't. I'm hyped to see what becomes of E.N.D. I don't really care too much if others dislike him though, it's a fair opinion as everything is subjective when it comes to fictional work. I will admit that Natsu is a bit overpowered but it hasn't changed my opinion of him like it has for others. I also won't say they are wrong to think that way though... everyone has a right to have their own opinions. I do realize that some people can become overly-defensive though and the opposite is true as well in regards to hate. It can't be changed.