Hangout Fairy Tail Hangout Thread

[Cat Sidhe26]

Indeed.I suspect Hiro to be a Jo Jo fan.He used 2 concepts from JJBA in Alvarez arc,one being the Age Seal.

So I’m guess that Age Seal was based on Jotaro’s Stand ability though what was the concept that Mashima used from Jo Jo?

 

[Arjuna]

So I’m guess that Age Seal was based on Jotaro’s Stand ability though what was the concept that Mashima used from Jo Jo?

This is from part 6 of JJBA so keeping it under Spoiler tag

Spoiler

Hiro used New Eclipse plan of Zeref which involved resetting the world seems to be influenced from Pucci's plan of resetting the world using the stand Made in Heaven.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

that sounds plausible and would be a nice little side story so that the search for Aquarius key doesn't get in the way of the 100 year quest.

Well the search for Aquarius’s Key did seem like something that could be made into a spin off or light novel and the Aquarius’s Key would also be a good way to resolve plot points related to non-Fairy Tail characters like Wally/Richard’s reunion.

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I didn’t know where to put this but I think Team Natsu going on the 100 Year Quest was foreshadowed in the Edolas arc when Makarov told Erza he wanted to have someone else to do the 100 Year Quest but considering what happened in the series this seems like foreshadowing that was unused until the last chapter for the sequel which makes wonder what other unused foreshadowing will be used for the sequel.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Well the search for Aquarius’s Key did seem like something that could be made into a spin off or light novel and the Aquarius’s Key would also be a good way to resolve plot points related to non-Fairy Tail characters like Wally/Richard’s reunion.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 30, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 30, 2018 ---

I didn’t know where to put this but I think Team Natsu going on the 100 Year Quest was foreshadowed in the Edolas arc when Makarov told Erza he wanted to have someone else to do the 100 Year Quest but considering what happened in the series this seems like foreshadowing that was unused until the last chapter for the sequel which makes wonder what other unused foreshadowing will be used for the sequel.

END, White legacy, What happened all those years ago, who carried on the heartfilia bloodline, the two angels, where Acnologia got his magic from, Zeref connection to Acno. Who and what was the dragon that destroyed Natsu and Zeref village. What were those other four pods around Natsu. How and when did Igneel and the other five have the chance to train Natsu and others if the timeline doesn't really make it possible. Why Zeref established a empire on another continent. What does Makarov really know.

alot of shit needs covering.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

END, White legacy, What happened all those years ago, who carried on the heartfilia bloodline, the two angels, where Acnologia got his magic from, Zeref connection to Acno. Who and what was the dragon that destroyed Natsu and Zeref village. What were those other four pods around Natsu. How and when did Igneel and the other five have the chance to train Natsu and others if the timeline doesn't really make it possible. Why Zeref established a empire on another continent. What does Makarov really know.

alot of shit needs covering.

END was result of Mars Geer’s lies and a useless subplot and the White Legacy is Face that was resolved in that Tartaros arc so I don’t know why your still worried about and I don’t know what you mean by what happened all those years ago. It’s mostly likely that Anna was the one who carried on the Heartfilia bloodline since Anna is the direct ancestor of Lucy and Layla. The White Angel and Black Angel could just be something that will be used to expand on Acnologia’s backstory in the anime. As for the answer to your next five questions your have to wait for anime to come and Zeref founded Alvarez so he could have the power to fight Acnologia and as for you last question Makarov doesn’t know anything besides what he’s heard from others.

 

[Gut's is the man]

END was result of Mars Geer’s lies and a useless subplot and the White Legacy is Face that was resolved in that Tartaros arc so I don’t know why your still worried about and I don’t know what you mean by what happened all those years ago. It’s mostly likely that Anna was the one who carried on the Heartfilia bloodline since Anna is the direct ancestor of Lucy and Layla. The White Angel and Black Angel could just be something that will be used to expand on Acnologia’s backstory in the anime. As for the answer to your next five questions your have to wait for anime to come and Zeref founded Alvarez so he could have the power to fight Acnologia and as for you last question Makarov doesn’t know anything besides what he’s heard from others.

If all this stuff doesn't have any need to be expanded upon or will be expanded by the anime. Then what purpose will the sequel have?
Also where was Anna husband and child? She left when she was pretty young so that would have been the same as abandoning her kid and husband. As for Makarov it was shown throughout the series that he seemingly understood the importance of the Dragon slayers and yet that was never used.

Also Alvarez being founded for Acnologia was never stated as the case and he would have mentioned it. (hell the fact that acno never really came into conflict with Alvarez should say something)

also about END. IT WAS HINTED EVER SINCE THE FIRST CHAPTER! (Seriously look at the first chapter cover and notice that END is written right below natsu. It's small but there. There was also Edolas and that joke. Consistence calling natsu a monster. Natsu hair being darkened when he fought and devoured Jackal bombs.) Also it's literally the entire reason Zeref is the way he is, the lynchpin of his goals And it was never explained how or why the book of end was separated from Natsu.

Why did you refute all the remaining threads of plot or questions left unanswered if you were wondering what the sequel would cover? What exactly would your whole theory on the importance of the symbols of mt Zonia and time travel be used for if not to answer questions about the past?

 

[Gut's is the man]

The sequel can always create new plot points and a new plot so don’t worry about it. Though I do think that the 100 Year Quest will be something that was mentioned before the Edolas arc and the only that fits is the slave trade in Bosco.

Why could possibly be about the slave trade in bosco (the country as a whole I might remind you was destroyed meaning any plot in that country is impossible) could require 100 years. Also what other stories could be told? Everything they could possible do was already done or dealt with. Anything else would just be dull or forced.

I might sound negative or aggressive. But I really want to see the sequel as something more then a crash grab to a series that went down like a burning plane and more something that serves as a saving through and gives the ending we should have gotten.

 

[Gut's is the man]

Well it’s only been stated that the guilds in Bosco have been destroyed not the country and the only other thing I can think of about what the 100 Year Quest could be is finding fairies. Which would connect to some unused foreshadowing related to Orba if Orba is a Spriggan and maybe we’ll see Tir Na Og (the homeland of the fairies and the land of eternal youth). Also like I said there can always be a new plot and new plot points created for the sequel and I think it’s been mentioned in the articles about the sequel that there will be a new plot in the sequel.

Orba was likely gonna be a etherious and member of the 12. But mashima couldn't think of how to use Orba since his magic was too OP. Also wouldn't that require Zeref to be connected to fairies in some way?\

also what article said it had a completely new "disconnected from what came before" plot?

 

[Gut's is the man]

Well that would explain why we never saw Obra again though this means Obra was like a red herring all along and no Zeref was never connected to fairies in anyway. The articles said that sequel with be directly connected to the last chapter and tells a future story that focuses on the present Fairy Tail.

Mind a link to this article?

 

[Arjuna]

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-ne...ched-to-fairy-tail-manga-sequel-as-supervisor

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We never saw Anna’s husband and child but if we did it would be in the anime or the Aquarius’s Key spin off if Anna tells Lucy her backstory when they meet during the past year and Makarov knew about the importance of the Dragon Slayers because of Poryusica who is the Earthland Grandeeney. It was started by Zeref that Alvarez that was founded so he could be able to staind against Acnologia and that’s because these plot points have resolved in the manga or will be expanded on in the anime. Well my theory would have Team Natsu traveling back in time 100 - 90 years ago to answer certain questions which reveal some kind of shocking reveal.

There is no reason to think Anna was married.Anna might have had a sister and the current Heartfillia family is a descendant of that sister.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

There is no reason to think Anna was married.Anna might had a sister and the current Heartfillia family is a descendant of that sister.

Well if Anna does have a sister then that should be revealed in the anime or if there’s a spin off about the search for Aquarius’s Key Anna can tell Lucy her backstory when they meet during the past year.

 

[Arjuna]

Well if Anna does have a sister then that should be revealed in the anime or if there’s a spin off about the search for Aquarius’s Key Anna can tell Lucy her backstory when they meet during the past year.

--- Double Post Merged, May 2, 2018, Original Post Date: May 2, 2018 ---

Wait wasn’t it said that Anna was the direct ancestor of Lucy and Layla so that might hint that Anna had a kid I mean that book Anna had her descendants pass on said to offspring.

No it was never said Anna was their direct ancestor. From what we have seen there was no evidence she was married.

In fact the way she was talking care of all the DS indicates she was a bachelor.

 

[Cat Sidhe26]

Mira is that you?

 

[Gut's is the man]

Oh no, Mashima is going to try with a Space Opera, after seeing how bad he is at worldbuilding and with fantasy stories I don't really believe that he will be able to make something good.

he's actually pretty strong at world building. FT was him just not doing that.

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I have read his previous series and I still think that he is horrible at creating fantasy worlds, especially if we compare them with other popular mangas.
His previous work is a perfect example of that...

what popular manga are better at it?

 

[Exorcist1995]

what popular manga are better at it?

One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, Toriko, Magi, Naruto, etc.

think they are going through the branches, if the world were bad, badly built or badly worked, it would not have gone as far as it did

yeah, because there aren't popular mangas or animes that are bad...
Is like saying that SAO or something like that can't be bad because it is very popular.

 

[Gut's is the man]

One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, Toriko, Magi, Naruto, etc.



yeah, because there aren't popular mangas or animes that are bad...
Is like saying that SAO or something like that can't be bad because it is very popular.

Naruto and Toriko did not have better world building then rave master. Also HxH & One Piece are almost unfair to compare, one piece is a jugernaught that's like comparing batman returns to the MCU and HxH isn't as popular as the others on that list.

 

[Exorcist1995]

HxH isn't as popular as the others on that list.

But HxH is one of the best selling mangas in Japan, it is pretty popular especially after the 2011 adaptation.

Naruto and Toriko did not have better world building then rave master

Toriko has a imaginative world full of weird creatures and bizarre environments that are well explained in the different arcs of the serie, I don't see how Rave is better than that

 

[Gabo]

There is a tendency for some to think that because something is popular is a bad forces, eye, that popular must be something that person does not approve, because if you approve entocnes there if the popularity is good.

It is a somewhat cynical way of thinking, since it literally forces others to think like that person, forgetting the precept that everyone has the right to like it.

It's true, SAO is not the best work in the world but, is it bad for being popular? It is a work whose purpose is to entertain, not to be the living concept of the origin of life, it is a work of fiction and as such, if it is popular, it is because something good has attracted people.

Stop thinking that pro is popular is bad, but rather see the market that is aimed and what you want to achieve, if something seeks to be fun, that you hope or dreams, it is just as good that something that gets you a lot of ideas and complex things, something happy is not less than something dramatic, not because something contains deaths would be better than something that does not have them, and not because one is a fantasy about family love and friendship is worse than one that is based on the path of the Hero.

If I mention SAO, it is because I see a marked tendency to use it as an example of what is popular, considering that it really has nothing to do with it, it is a work and it fulfills its purpose which is to entertain, if you do not like it, do not see it, it did not attract me at all and that's not why I go everywhere saying it's bad just because I want to prove a point.

 

[Exorcist1995]

is it bad for being popular?

No, it is a bad series that happens to be popular, it doesn't mean that is bad just because it is popular, it is bad because it has an awful main character, some awful characters, a really rushed story with a bad romance

People can like it, however that doesn't transform it in a good show with good writing or characters, and just because something may be "fun" doesn´t automaticaly become that thing in something good.
Also there is a really wrong asumtion that if you ask for something that has good writing that means that you are asking for a really deep story with death and things like that, and that is a lie, you are confusing a dark story with a good one, there are tons of light hearted stories that are really good and also entretaining.

So saying that "that show can't be bad because it is popular for a reason" is an argument as lazy as "that show is bad because is popular"

 

[Gabo]

I love these Tsunderers who consider that not following the flow is a kind of aggression against them.

In Fin, in my opinion, I do not think there is anything wrong with people liking something, it is a question of Rights, if you do not like these in your right, but do not attack the taste of others, in order to accounts, I think that if you do not disrespect, you should apply that, because the fact that someone likes something, does not affect you in the least.

The key is respect