Natsu's fights aren't as scandalous as Erza's though, they're just badly written. The way Erza's fights are seems like Mashima purposefully tries to make them as controversial as possible.
All the female characters have fanservice moments, but Erza is the only one that gets straight up torture porn.
Lucy came up with the idea, found the book AND cast the spell, she did most of the work. Ofc I'm not saying she won a battle against Acno but she definitely shined in that moment.
Isn't that most characters? Lucy loses to Flare? Flare cheated. Gray vs Bixslow? Bix cheated. Natsu hasn't lost since that bird guy from TOH which was a fluke that happened a LONG time ago. Wendy straight up never lost. Gajeel only lost to Natsu. Laxus doesn't lose even when weakened and people have no problem with that and call him badass. Why does Erza have to lose so much?
Even when bind snake wore off Erza herself gave up and didn't believe she could defeat Jellal. Neinhart wasn't that strong to begin with and neither was Ajeel. Laxus himself has fought Kyria before fighting Erza. Plus, aren't you the person who claimed Erza fought with outside help of Wendy/Gray/Natsu? By your own logic, Laxus should have lost that fight. Mashima didn't even let Kyria hypnotize him the way she did Erza. Don't you see the clear difference between how Erza and Laxus are being treated?
Natsu literally one-shotted Neinheart, Gray and Gajeel won their fights, again Laxus won while weakened. Didn't Sting win as well? Even freaking Elfman won somehow (Lisanna is fodder her help means nothing). The last one especially makes Erza look awful.
The fact Gray even got a new "mode" but Erza didn't just further proves how little he cares for her. Even Lucy got the Star Dresses AND Star Dress Mix, Erza never gets any power ups. Her mother got introduced to give power to Wendy. Feelsbadman.
What? Plotsu vs FH Zeref was straight up aids. He burned all magic of someone who had INFINITE magic supply. Probably the worst fight of the series.
Mashima does this shit with his fav characaters
I'll agree with that. But there are different ways of humiliating fanservice, Lucy has gotten them.
That END book rewriting was a massive asspull.
Nope.
Lucy has lost clean multiple times. Against Juvia, against Zero, against Minerva. And this is, considering she rarely gets fight where she's the main fighter.
Natsu lost clean to Aria, Fukuro, Zero (round 1), Zancrow (round 1), Future Rouge (got straight up one shotted in his LFD mode with POF), Silver (got no diff'd), Torafusa (got knocked unconscious and had to be saved by Gajeel), Zeref (R1). Note, these are clean losses. No excuses, except maybe for Silver (you could argue he was caught off guard)
Gray lost clean to Lyon (round 1), Zero, Rufus (round 1). He has taken less Ls because he gets fewer fights.
I CHALLENGE you, find me a case where Erza lost her fight clean. Name
JUST ONE. The only one which came remotely close was against Neinhart and Laxus, and there too Mashima made excuses (weakened against Neinhart, "draw" against Laxus)
Sure, but the point is she didn't take a clean L. Whether Jellol was stronger (which I believe he was) or not is not the point.
Neinhart's strength is his Historia.
Ajeel is actually one of the more impressive Spriggans IMHO.
Yes, Erza fought with outside help, so what? She still got "draw" in the end, right? What? Why would Laxus have lost by my logic? wtf?
Yea, Natsu destroyed Neinhart by himself, without Historia. No big deal. We know that more than half the Spriggans are trash in stats and overly rely on their hax abilities.
Gray lost round 1, and had to get darkness to defeat Invel. Moreover, he was a hard counter for Invel (slayer vs same element)
Gajeel "won" (arguably it was a draw) with freaking dragon force. Do you want me to go through Gajeel's clean losses as well now?
Elfman hard countered Ajeel by becoming immune to his ONLY source of damage. Even then, this is some nonsensical stuff that happened off screen (yeah Ajeel can't damage, but neither can Elfman do damage since he's pure physical). And even then, Lissana was needed or else Elfman get buried in sand pit.
Also dude, you do realize that you're comparing characters who BARELY got any fight & screentime (except for Gray), to the character who got the MOST screentime against Spriggans? Wtf man? Erza got three freaking Spriggan fights. You're just making up stuff to argue Erza has been treated badly by the author. She EASILY gets the 2nd most screentime in most serious arcs, gets the 2nd most fights in almost every arc, and gets 2nd biggest POF; even tho she's only a secondary MC while Lucy is the MC.
I'll agree that Erza has been degraded in terms of combat. Her requip has been made useless and she's been reduced to fire pants.
Also, why "even Gray". Gray, like Erza, is the secondary MC of the series along with Wendy and Happy. And he's treated the worst out of them, not even debatable.
