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On Kiraku:
We could make his first Feat stronger, so that he is able to beat some more of the characters above him. Alternatively, we could change the Feats to not make his stats raise and drop but to negate Effects (if opponent is stronger) or has his own Effect negated (if opponent is weaker).

On Niou:
If he would be able to use Illusion in Doubles as well, Guess Who would be completely useless, so I think Illusion should stay restricted to Singles.

On Wakato:
As for the reasons that were already mentioned, I don't think he should be able to copy Mizuki.

On Shishido:
Rising Counter was meant to have both effects activated in Doubles but I changed it at some point. Looking at the result, I think I should change it back. It feels wrong that he can't pull the first part off in Doubles.

Question (don't want to spam the other thread lol):
Perhaps first to three games will win automatically, so you don't have to play the last game? This way, we don't have to always have those 3-2s.
I'm fine with that, I just took it over from the previous league but if we change it, it means less writing for me. :p
 

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If you make it whoever wins the first 3 games, we'll have some more strategy added to the mix, since people don't want to lose the first 3 matches and end with -3 in their record, and people who try to go in for the kill so they can get +3 games.
 

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If you apply that, remember, I've won 3-1 my first match
 

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If we do, I will, don't sweat it.
 

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Question, if Mizuki's effect can't be negated, wouldn't it be fair for Niou's effect not to be negated as well?
 

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Hmm, I'm not sure. Mizuki's effect can't be negated as he made his prediction before the match started and they self-negate when they are wrong.
Not sure about Niou, as for now, I'd say it sounds logic.
 

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Hmm, I'm not sure. Mizuki's effect can't be negated as he made his prediction before the match started and they self-negate when they are wrong.
Not sure about Niou, as for now, I'd say it sounds logic.
His effect could be pre-feats...as far as Nioh is concerned...people can still
"dispel" his illusion...sort of...he can still use most of the moves.

I think people can still cancel his copied effects/auras though. Just not change his stats back to the original just because people can cancel out the original user's effects/auras.
 

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Was talking with Chaos about this in PMs and seeing what everyone else thinks for a future fan league (or this one if you want)

Basically custom characters. I know we have that create your own U-17 player thread (which seems dead now). I'm not saying they all have to be high tier or anything but here's how I think it could work.

Everyone can CHOOSE to create one (means you dont have to). League admins will then ask whether you want it to be a high, mid or low tier character. Depending on the tier/cost ration you are given a certain number or points to allocate to each stat. Furthermore you then create techs (effects, auras, feats, etc) that will then need to be approved by the admins (so they aren't over powered for the level/cost). This will not be an extra character but a replacement character. So if you create a high tier, he takes one of your high tier slots, mid tier, one of the mid tier slots, low to low etc.

I was just thinking about this since I know I wouldnt mind making my player int he create a character thread into a legit fan league character. Plus this will allow for players to feel like they have a good player when certain other ones are taken up so quickly.
Personally, I'd approve of this idea.
 

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Was talking with Chaos about this in PMs and seeing what everyone else thinks for a future fan league (or this one if you want)

Basically custom characters. I know we have that create your own U-17 player thread (which seems dead now). I'm not saying they all have to be high tier or anything but here's how I think it could work.

Everyone can CHOOSE to create one (means you dont have to). League admins will then ask whether you want it to be a high, mid or low tier character. Depending on the tier/cost ration you are given a certain number or points to allocate to each stat. Furthermore you then create techs (effects, auras, feats, etc) that will then need to be approved by the admins (so they aren't over powered for the level/cost). This will not be an extra character but a replacement character. So if you create a high tier, he takes one of your high tier slots, mid tier, one of the mid tier slots, low to low etc.

I was just thinking about this since I know I wouldnt mind making my player int he create a character thread into a legit fan league character. Plus this will allow for players to feel like they have a good player when certain other ones are taken up so quickly.
I told it before, I don´t like that idea.First of all, that sounds like an RPG. And this is just a forum. Second, the chances of creating broken characters are too high IMAO. And third and most important, Prince of Tennis is an universe enough big and complex, full of characters, and add our own characters sound like PoT world is not enough for us-

But I respect you if you want to do it.If it's only a custom player/team, I even consider to play in that league...But I told you, I don´t feel comfortable with that. If we want to make the league even more complicated, we could add Coaches, Captain's Bonus, Weather, Different Courts....
 

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Was talking with Chaos about this in PMs and seeing what everyone else thinks for a future fan league (or this one if you want)

Basically custom characters. I know we have that create your own U-17 player thread (which seems dead now). I'm not saying they all have to be high tier or anything but here's how I think it could work.

Everyone can CHOOSE to create one (means you dont have to). League admins will then ask whether you want it to be a high, mid or low tier character. Depending on the tier/cost ration you are given a certain number or points to allocate to each stat. Furthermore you then create techs (effects, auras, feats, etc) that will then need to be approved by the admins (so they aren't over powered for the level/cost). This will not be an extra character but a replacement character. So if you create a high tier, he takes one of your high tier slots, mid tier, one of the mid tier slots, low to low etc.

I was just thinking about this since I know I wouldnt mind making my player int he create a character thread into a legit fan league character. Plus this will allow for players to feel like they have a good player when certain other ones are taken up so quickly.
 

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weird, my post time is messed up....

Anyhow jav, I understand your feelings which is why I said it's an option.

To counter broken abilities we would raise the cost of the character and limit the other characters a person could choose. You can't really win with just one good character (unless it's Mizuki....and you're a good guesser)
 

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Actually, I think our posts are messed up, at least their time is wrong...


This one was a bit ignore, so here I go again:
On Shishido:
Rising Counter was meant to have both effects activated in Doubles but I changed it at some point. Looking at the result, I think I should change it back. It feels wrong that he can't pull the first part off in Doubles.
Comments, please.
 
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Actually, I think our posts are messed up, at least their time is wrong...
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This one was a bit ignore, so here I go again:


Comments, please.
Ok, for me.
 

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If you guys don't make a comment, I'll change Shishido at the end of round 2, so if you're against that change, say so!
 

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Wakato is not a stalker. So, he won't have the data needed for preparation and prediction. Plus, I see him being able to perfectly match how people move their bodies, and how they play, just not how they think. Nor does he have the respect form his teammates for them to follow exactly how he says. That is reserved for the MILF coach. :)

I think only Nioh was capable of that...granted Nioh...kind of seemed like a rip off of Wakato...so....yeah....unsure on which one's ability came out first. If you want he could copy an aura's too.
Forgot to clarify that, so Wakato can't copy Mizuki, but Nioh can?

Also, no objection to Shishido.
 

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The change to Shishido makes perfect sense to me.

Forgot to clarify that, so Wakato can't copy Mizuki, but Nioh can?
Mizuki's Prediction Master states that no one can copy it, so I'm pretty sure that still applies to Nioh.
 

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The change to Shishido makes perfect sense to me.



Mizuki's Prediction Master states that no one can copy it, so I'm pretty sure that still applies to Nioh.
That's the thing we were discussing before. I asked if Wakato was an exception, Jyten said "no, but Nioh might..."
 

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Well if Jyten said Niou might, I clearly say hearwith: "Niou can't!"

With that cleared, I'd like to bring up something else: Fuji.
I know he's my character so I'll leave the rest to you guys but I feel his last counter could be a bit stronger. It pretty much doesn't have any effect at all at the moment.
 

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Well if Jyten said Niou might, I clearly say hearwith: "Niou can't!"

With that cleared, I'd like to bring up something else: Fuji.
I know he's my character so I'll leave the rest to you guys but I feel his last counter could be a bit stronger. It pretty much doesn't have any effect at all at the moment.
Fuji is crap, true, if he still costs 40 points.If he 'd cost 36 points he would be good
The key to make Fuji good?
[Final Effect] Hoshi Hanabi
If the opponent is within 10 levels,each of Fuji's stats gets boosted 2 points (Singles only)
 

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Dunno, I'd rather see a bit of improvement for the 5th counter instead of adding the 6th, I must say. Maybe something like halving all stats except Spin and being negated when opponent's Spin is X or higher...
 
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