the 100 yr quest was to defeat Acno. that why Makarov asked him whether he succeed the moment he stepped back in the guild. And he said its impossible for me and apologised for bringing a bad name to the guild. Then , Makarov said, he was the first man to come alive after fighting Acno, so he should be proud.
Indeed he can, but if we're considering that he used singular attacks on both (or well, the one that did damage was singular) and that Gildarts probably took a larger chunk, then resilience/durability will still feature. Isn't that the kinda stuff FT (especially Erza) are famous for? Attacks that should normally be fatal or leave one unable to fight are brushed off.
It doesn't, technically speaking. The point is that Gildarts didn't take any less damage than Serena. If anything, he took more, and survived.
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Well the dragon itself was never actually mentioned. Makarov sad he was the first to return alive from the 100 year quest. Not from facing acno. And when Gildarts spoke to Natsu, he said he met a dragon on his quest and that was how he failed the mission
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While it was not mentioned, Gildart also said to Makarov, "its impossible for me to do it" (ore niwa muri da), not only that he coudn't finish sue to Acno. That means he was talking about defeating Acno.
It is a possibility but I wouldn't say this is conclusive. The wording is ambiguous enough that it could have a number of other interpretations. In the end the purpose of the actual mission was never stated.
That's anime though. Manga is canon and the basis of the story. Anime takes liberties when portraying either by adding or taking away. Like I said, the quest being to defeat acno is a likely possibility but it wasn't explicitly stated and a number of things can be inferred from how the whole thing was posed.
Yes, but i was under the impression, in original japanese anime, the dialogues are same as in the jap manga. Isn't that so?
OMg! i had put the question in the one of the threads here itself. SOmebody said that.
Said that the quest was to defeat Acnologia? It's healthy speculation but not actually manga fact so to say.
no, about anime-manga equivalence.
Well yeah he did say that but there are a number of things that Gildarts can't do. We can't say much until that's clarified. He failed the quest anyway. Maybe it's certain that one would encounter Acnologia in the course of the quest.
Ok, lets agree to disagree.
Yes Gildarts took a larger chunk, but it's just a lesser deadly chunk. A head is smaller than an arm or leg, but it's no more difficult for Acnologia to take. But I'm not really getting at Gildarts durability. It's quite obvious it's a non-factor here, Acnologia can breach it easily. I mean we're talking about a guy who can kill Igneel, yet Gildarts survived.
Well, the past arc puts the power we have seen from gildarts so far somewhere between "worthless fodder" and "adequate secondary character" depending on plot requirements. I mean, just look at what his power compares to nowadays. His former peers in terms of power either got a dramatically huge increase in terms of power (laxus) or simply got outright foderized (jura). And the guy that foderized jura was in turn foderized as well. And the guys above jura in the wizard saints also got foderized. And half of fairy tail seems to be well above what gildarts used to have. Erza, natsu and grey seem to be dramatically stronger. Lucy has suggested that while she won't beat natsu she can hold her own. Which means that conservatively lucy can hold her own against gildarts, as we have seen him, and stretching it a bit he could even beat him (he did pretty well against ajir and is literally the sole reason jacob was defeated). Her worst case scenario would be the stellar spirit king which matched mard geer with the power she had one year ago... A stellar spirit king today could probably take on a springan. Screw it, even dragon force wendy would be able to do something here. a year back wendy was a match for second origin jubia which puts her base form well above natsu before the GMGs. Add in a presumably large increase in power and then dragon force and you have a force to be feared. Anyways, back to the point. If gildart, as we last saw him, is so vastly outclass by so many mages and is so far away from being the strongest or even in the same tier as the stronger mages around, then there being god knows how many missions he can't complete is pretty much a certainty. It's a big world and the people we used to think were top dogs are far from that.
I wouldn't necessarily call those important details but rather minor ones. The highlight of that fight was Gildarts defeating Bluenote with relative ease after getting his power back. The few punches that occurred before the Tenrou Tree fell was quite even and was mainly used just to hype the battle or create suspense instead of just a one-shot. Therefore, those scenes really have no meaning.
What are you rambling about? Have you see post timeskip Gildart. Everything you say has already been refuted in this thread in great details. And if you think Lucy can beat Gildartz, you must be watching some different show.
When has current Jellal ever shown to be on current Natsu's level let alone Laxus'?
For starters, Wendy couldn't stand under Bluenote's Gravity. How can she possibly best Gildarts?
That's comparing Gildarts durability to Acnologia's offensive power. Obviously the latter far outclasses. But Gildarts durability compared to Serena's is a reasonable one. That's my point. Also, if Acnologia had to use another attack (or with more seriousness) than the first, that's still a plus for Gildarts. Acnologia ripped Igneel but he did that after they had duked it out a fair bit.