Basically at some point a few weeks ago, while going through the manga and discussing some aspects, I started theorizing that some additional parts were planned, but removed from the final product for whatever reason, but hints as to what could have been there still exist. There are two (major) instances I've found, both of which you can find below, the first one I believe to simply have taken place off-screen, the second one to have been removed entirely.
I don't have much else to say, obviously I don't necessarily expect everyone to share my point of view on these issues, but maybe it'll provide some food for thought. So without further delay:
(1) Black Jersey Brigade vs 2nd Court - Chapter 47.1, 47.2 (Flashback)
Story:
The BJB return to the camp and challenge 2nd Court to a Team Shuffle. They have to defeat all members of 2nd Court to win, in other words they can't lose any of the six matches. Estimated line-up (I included some results, but they're really just random guesses):
First Match: Tanishi 7-6
Second Match: Niou/Momoshiro 6-3
Third Match: Tooyama 6-0
Fourth Match: Yanagi/Inui 6-2
Fifth Match: Sanada 6-0
Sixth Match: Ryoma vs Migihashi 0-0 (Forfeit)
Migihashi is capable of hitting 6ao. Ryoma evolves from 5ao to 7ao during the match and Migihashi forfeits before the end of the first game (compare anime Ep 13). Migihashi gets to stay since he hasn't officially lost unlike the other members.
Justification:
1. Almost normal team shuffle since players like Sakata or Kadowaki realistically aren't strong enough to win these matches (i.e. different from anime where all of the BJB had to play, same reason why the conditions are slightly adjusted).
2. Line-up taken from the players that were in the focus in Ch 48 P 3 (it happens to be only those eight).
3. Tanishi becoming skinny as temporary boost; only character with such a drastic change that gets reversed immediately afterwards.
4.1 Migihashi having 9ao like in the anime would put him above Tooyama pre G10, which would be odd considering his position in the 2nd String line-up and Tooyama being able to handle Hakamada without too much trouble.
4.2 Ryoma going from 5ao to 8ao on the same day he got the former without it being shown seems equally weird, same with an improvement from 5ao to 10ao in a single match.
4.3 Ch 66 P 11. Tokugawa only wants to increase to rallying with 7 balls at first instead of 10. Could be random of course, but might also be the number that Ryoma last hit during a match.
4.4 Parallel growth to Tooyama. Tooyama went from 5ao (Mountain Camp) to 8ao (pre G10, 10 day shuffle) to 10ao (Match with Oni), so 5+3+2. With this theory, Ryoma would go from 5ao (Mountain Camp) to 7ao (Match with Migihashi) to 10ao (pre G10, 10 day shuffle). While not completely the same, the pattern of 5 (Mountain) +3 (10 days) +2 (Match) seems similar enough to be categorized as parallel.
(3) The True Form of the 1st String
That said, did any of you actually try to put in Oni as No. 5 and just push everyone else down by one position? You get this if you do:
Now, if you put the bottom half into a line-up while keeping their doubles pairs as they were, you get this:
It also gets rid of that ugly 23 -> 22 -> 21 -> 19 sequence for the singles spots and replaces it with a much nicer 24 -> 23 -> 22 -> 21 one, if that bothered anyone besides me.
If you then apply the order to the G10, you get this:
So yeah, discuss.
I don't have much else to say, obviously I don't necessarily expect everyone to share my point of view on these issues, but maybe it'll provide some food for thought. So without further delay:
(1) Black Jersey Brigade vs 2nd Court - Chapter 47.1, 47.2 (Flashback)
Story:
The BJB return to the camp and challenge 2nd Court to a Team Shuffle. They have to defeat all members of 2nd Court to win, in other words they can't lose any of the six matches. Estimated line-up (I included some results, but they're really just random guesses):
First Match: Tanishi 7-6
Second Match: Niou/Momoshiro 6-3
Third Match: Tooyama 6-0
Fourth Match: Yanagi/Inui 6-2
Fifth Match: Sanada 6-0
Sixth Match: Ryoma vs Migihashi 0-0 (Forfeit)
Migihashi is capable of hitting 6ao. Ryoma evolves from 5ao to 7ao during the match and Migihashi forfeits before the end of the first game (compare anime Ep 13). Migihashi gets to stay since he hasn't officially lost unlike the other members.
Justification:
1. Almost normal team shuffle since players like Sakata or Kadowaki realistically aren't strong enough to win these matches (i.e. different from anime where all of the BJB had to play, same reason why the conditions are slightly adjusted).
2. Line-up taken from the players that were in the focus in Ch 48 P 3 (it happens to be only those eight).
3. Tanishi becoming skinny as temporary boost; only character with such a drastic change that gets reversed immediately afterwards.
4.1 Migihashi having 9ao like in the anime would put him above Tooyama pre G10, which would be odd considering his position in the 2nd String line-up and Tooyama being able to handle Hakamada without too much trouble.
4.2 Ryoma going from 5ao to 8ao on the same day he got the former without it being shown seems equally weird, same with an improvement from 5ao to 10ao in a single match.
4.3 Ch 66 P 11. Tokugawa only wants to increase to rallying with 7 balls at first instead of 10. Could be random of course, but might also be the number that Ryoma last hit during a match.
4.4 Parallel growth to Tooyama. Tooyama went from 5ao (Mountain Camp) to 8ao (pre G10, 10 day shuffle) to 10ao (Match with Oni), so 5+3+2. With this theory, Ryoma would go from 5ao (Mountain Camp) to 7ao (Match with Migihashi) to 10ao (pre G10, 10 day shuffle). While not completely the same, the pattern of 5 (Mountain) +3 (10 days) +2 (Match) seems similar enough to be categorized as parallel.
(2) Top 10 2nd String High Schoolers vs Genius 10 - Chapters 53-64
Story:
Ch 53. Instead of waiting on No. 11-20, the G10 start their matches against the 2nd String High Schoolers. No. 1-8 are using 60% limiters. Estimated line-ups (included some made-up results again, mostly to underline my belief that the matches wouldn't have been complete blowouts for the most part):
First Match: Ochi/Mouri vs Migihashi/Yamato 7-5, 6-1
Second Match: Duke vs Hitsujida 6-1, 6-0
Third Match: Kimijima/Tohno vs Sekine/Kobayashi 6-1, 6-4
Fourth Match: No. 4 (not revealed) vs Kishimoto 6-0, 6-0
Fifth Match: Kaji/Ohmagari vs Taniyoshi/Ishimaru Forfeit (6-4, 3-0)
Sixth Match: Tanegashima vs Oni Postponed or Cancelled at an early stage
Seventh Match: Byoudouin vs Tokugawa Postponed
Yukimura and the BJB return from the revolution just before the start of or sometime during the sixth match and the Middle Schoolers challenge the G10.
Justification:
1. Yamato's name is hidden on the 2nd String line-up in the original chapter release (some of you might be unaware of this since it was already added in the Edited Manga), but displayed in the volume release. This could indicate that he was planned to make a surprise reappearance after declaring his retirement after the Tezuka match.
2. Tokugawa being part of the actual G10 matches as the only High Schooler. His inclusion means that it isn't a Middle Schooler only challenge, which either means that even the likes of Gin, Kite and Marui are stronger than the strongest members of 1st court (which is unlikely in my opinion) - or the other High Schoolers already got their chance and were defeated.
3. 60% limiters are taken from Kimijima's response to Tohno's question (Ch 69 P 20: makes it seem like 60% is their normal limit in these matches), as well Oni's statement (Ch 83 P 6).
Further justification for both of these instances would be that they bring some attention to 1st and 2nd Court and give them at least score lines. It would feel more consistent than having 3rd Court, the 11-20 and G10, but skipping over the two courts in between completely.
Story:
Ch 53. Instead of waiting on No. 11-20, the G10 start their matches against the 2nd String High Schoolers. No. 1-8 are using 60% limiters. Estimated line-ups (included some made-up results again, mostly to underline my belief that the matches wouldn't have been complete blowouts for the most part):
First Match: Ochi/Mouri vs Migihashi/Yamato 7-5, 6-1
Second Match: Duke vs Hitsujida 6-1, 6-0
Third Match: Kimijima/Tohno vs Sekine/Kobayashi 6-1, 6-4
Fourth Match: No. 4 (not revealed) vs Kishimoto 6-0, 6-0
Fifth Match: Kaji/Ohmagari vs Taniyoshi/Ishimaru Forfeit (6-4, 3-0)
Sixth Match: Tanegashima vs Oni Postponed or Cancelled at an early stage
Seventh Match: Byoudouin vs Tokugawa Postponed
Yukimura and the BJB return from the revolution just before the start of or sometime during the sixth match and the Middle Schoolers challenge the G10.
Justification:
1. Yamato's name is hidden on the 2nd String line-up in the original chapter release (some of you might be unaware of this since it was already added in the Edited Manga), but displayed in the volume release. This could indicate that he was planned to make a surprise reappearance after declaring his retirement after the Tezuka match.
2. Tokugawa being part of the actual G10 matches as the only High Schooler. His inclusion means that it isn't a Middle Schooler only challenge, which either means that even the likes of Gin, Kite and Marui are stronger than the strongest members of 1st court (which is unlikely in my opinion) - or the other High Schoolers already got their chance and were defeated.
3. 60% limiters are taken from Kimijima's response to Tohno's question (Ch 69 P 20: makes it seem like 60% is their normal limit in these matches), as well Oni's statement (Ch 83 P 6).
Further justification for both of these instances would be that they bring some attention to 1st and 2nd Court and give them at least score lines. It would feel more consistent than having 3rd Court, the 11-20 and G10, but skipping over the two courts in between completely.
(3) The True Form of the 1st String
That said, did any of you actually try to put in Oni as No. 5 and just push everyone else down by one position? You get this if you do:
Code:
1. Byoudouin 11. Mouri
2. Tanegashima 12. Fuwa
3. Duke 13. Date
4. ??? 14. Ban
5. Oni 15. Hakamada
6. Kaji 16. Mutsu
7. Ohmagari 17. Mutsu
8. Kimijima 18. Mitsuya
9. Tohno 19. Taira
10. Ochi 20. Hara
So doubles, singles, doubles, singles, doubles, singles, singles in that order. Sound familiar? It happens to be the same as the match order for the G10 matches that are happening right now.1st Match: Taira/Hara
2nd Match: Mitsuya
3rd Match: Mutsu/Mutsu
4th Match: Hakamada
5th Match: Date/Ban
6th Match: Fuwa
7th Match: Mouri
It also gets rid of that ugly 23 -> 22 -> 21 -> 19 sequence for the singles spots and replaces it with a much nicer 24 -> 23 -> 22 -> 21 one, if that bothered anyone besides me.
If you then apply the order to the G10, you get this:
So maybe that's how it originally looked like? We know at least that Kimijima didn't exactly seem happy with Tohno as partner, so that might not have been his choice, and we also know from the fanbook interview that Ochi/Mouri was just decided by the coaches at some point.1st Match: Tohno/Ochi
2nd Match: Kimijima
3rd Match: Kaji/Ohmagari
4th Match: Oni
5th Match: Duke/???
6th Match: Tanegashima
7th Match: Byoudouin
So yeah, discuss.
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