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I'm just wondering if status promotion makes stuff worse does he have one that has the opposite effect?

Because when his ability was described it was said he had control over "life and death"...
Status promotion can fit the death aspect, however it wouldn't necessarily fit under the life aspect...
It can be argued that killing is power over life, however if someone is dying already, without healing you don't really have control over life...
King's "Status Promotion" amplifies certain things. Merlin stated that King mainly used it on the forest's trees in order to "amplify" the rate of their growth, hence giving life to the forest.

That being said, it does not necessarily fit the death aspect only.
 

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So he can amplify the rate people heal right?
Or age Someone ?
 

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So he can amplify the rate people heal right?
Or age Someone ?
I guess so. He could increase the rate of thrombocytes to close a wound or something close to it.
I don't know whether he can age someone, though.
 

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He can probably accelerate healing but accelerate age should be impossible.
Well, king can turn light poisons into deadly poisons and turn tumors into larger tumors... And we did see him trigger rheumatism. And one of his spear forms has the power to fossilize things. King seems to have dominion over natural processes. He can enhance them so to speak. So it wouldn't be that much of a stretch that he can increase or slow down aging and maybe even revert it. The issue would be that each of this things would be greatly limited. So he probably can do all this stuff but it would be greatly limited. Much like his status promotion, its not like he can turn a light wound into a wound large enough that meliodas ends up split in two.
 

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Well, king can turn light poisons into deadly poisons and turn tumors into larger tumors... And we did see him trigger rheumatism. And one of his spear forms has the power to fossilize things. King seems to have dominion over natural processes. He can enhance them so to speak. So it wouldn't be that much of a stretch that he can increase or slow down aging and maybe even revert it. The issue would be that each of this things would be greatly limited. So he probably can do all this stuff but it would be greatly limited. Much like his status promotion, its not like he can turn a light wound into a wound large enough that meliodas ends up split in two.
But can't he use his abilities repeatedly so that the effects stack?
He used status promotion and tried to use it again...
Meaning if he can just exponential increase the severity of winds he should be able to kill anyone who doesn't have bans level of regen...
 

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But can't he use his abilities repeatedly so that the effects stack?
He used status promotion and tried to use it again...
Meaning if he can just exponential increase the severity of winds he should be able to kill anyone who doesn't have bans level of regen...
I don't know, all we can say is that we have not seen hims stack the effects of his ability. King did try to use status promotion again but he was not necessarily targeting the wound he had already opened. Meliodas had two scratches after all, the one on his face and the one on his shoulder. Then again the second status promotion did seem to fail due to mel's full counter and king did feel pain over his shoulder. Of course, if king can really just stack that technique in many ways its more dangerous than most of his other techniques, even the ones that seem to combine chastiefol and disaster.

I wonder what the pain was about... It doesn't make sense that it was status promotion because there was nothing for it to worsen on king. Unless king already had an injury over his shoulder. Perhaps it has something to do with his wings? Fairy wings grow from about the shoulder or at least upper back.
 
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I don't know, all we can say is that we have not seen hims stack the effects of his ability. King did try to use status promotion again but he was not necessarily targeting the wound he had already opened. Meliodas had two scratches after all, the one on his face and the one on his shoulder. Then again the second status promotion did seem to fail due to mel's full counter and king did feel pain over his shoulder. Of course, if king can really just stack that technique in many ways its more dangerous than most of his other techniques, even the ones that seem to combine chastiefol and disaster.

I wonder what the pain was about... It doesn't make sense that it was status promotion because there was nothing for it to worsen on king. Unless king already had an injury over his shoulder. Perhaps it has something to do with his wings? Fairy wings grow from about the shoulder or at least upper back.
Why do you guys associate Status Promotion with the worsening of a wound? King might very well have a disorder which prevents his wings from growing, which may imply that King's "inverted" wings' growth was triggered by the countered Status Promotion.
That being said, Status Promotion also yields positive results. It is there to "amplify", not "worsen".
 
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Why do you guys associate Status Promotion with worsening of a wound? King might very well have a disorder which prevents his wings from growing, which may imply that King's "inverted" wings' growth was triggered by the countered Status Promotion.
That being said, Status Promotion also yields positive results. It is there to "amplify", not "worsen".
We have yet to see whether status promotion has positive results. For all we know king has an entirely different technique which allows him "positive results". How would positive results even work in this context? How would king make someone healthier so to speak? It wouldn't work on someone who is already healthy. Unless king can make people more fit or something.
 

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We have yet to see whether status promotion has positive results. For all we know king has an entirely different technique which allows him "positive results". How would positive results even work in this context? How would king make someone healthier so to speak? It wouldn't work on someone who is already healthy. Unless king can make people more fit or something.
King was said to have used Status Promotion to amplify the growth of trees in the Fairy King's forest; how is that not positive?
 

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King was said to have used Status Promotion to amplify the growth of trees in the Fairy King's forest; how is that not positive?
No one said king specifically uses status promotion to do that. Merlin said king uses disaster to rule over life and death. Status promotion is but a single technique within disaster.
 

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No one said king specifically uses status promotion to do that. Merlin said king uses disaster to rule over life and death. Status promotion is but a single technique within disaster.
She stated that Disaster's abilities include amplifying certain things and went on to associate this with the growing of trees.
The topic was Status Promotion; how exactly did she talk about another ability which falls under Disaster's category?

MS specifically says that:
http://readms.com/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/134/2879/10
 

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She stated that Disaster's abilities include amplifying certain things and went on to associate this with the growing of trees.
The topic was Status Promotion; how exactly did she talk about another ability which falls under Disaster's category?

MS specifically says that:
http://readms.com/r/the_seven_deadly_sins/134/2879/10
Regardless of the translation merlin was talking about disaster in general. Her description of disaster does not necessarily mean status promotion is the specific technique king uses to do all the things merlin talked about.
 

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Regardless of the translation merlin was talking about disaster in general. Her description of disaster does not necessarily mean status promotion is the specific technique king uses to do all the things merlin talked about.
She referred to Status Promotion as Disaster; nothing more, nothing less. She clearly went on to explain its effects and did not deviate from Status Promotion.
Additionally, it's called "Status Promotion", which implies that it promotes the status of something, regardless of its nature (harmful or healthy).
 

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Status promotion is only what we've seen of disaster. There are somethings even Merlin might not know. Doesn't mean disaster is only status promotion. The topic wasn't status promotion, it was Disaster. Merlin didn't even refer to Status promotion even on the page you linked to.
I also noted that Merlin said he could cull and thin out trees. I guess that means he can close wounds as well although not necessarily 'heal' it. Well, in a way, he could possibly speed up the healing process like you suggested Kkck.
 

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Status promotion is only what we've seen of disaster. There are somethings even Merlin might not know. Doesn't mean disaster is only status promotion. The topic wasn't status promotion, it was Disaster. Merlin didn't even refer to Status promotion even on the page you linked to.
I also noted that Merlin said he could cull and thin out trees. I guess that means he can close wounds as well although not necessarily 'heal' it. Well, in a way, he could possibly speed up the healing process like you suggested Kkck.
Who said there's only Status Promotion to Disaster?
Yes, Merlin might not know everything about it, which is why she generalized Disaster as a technique which amplifies things, which further supports the fact that she was talking about Status Promotion alone.
To "propagate" means to grow and increase, which is clearly what Status Promotion does. She clearly mentioned it by saying that King can make weak poisons deadly, grow a tumor and such, and went on to say that this technique is how he maintains his forest.
The name of the ability is a clear indication that it is not only "negative".
 

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Who said there's only Status Promotion to Disaster?
Yes, Merlin might not know everything about it, which is why she generalized Disaster as a technique which amplifies things, which further supports the fact that she was talking about Status Promotion alone.
To "propagate" means to grow and increase, which is clearly what Status Promotion does. She clearly mentioned it by saying that King can make weak poisons deadly, grow a tumor and such, and went on to say that this technique is how he maintains his forest.
The name of the ability is a clear indication that it is not only "negative".
She clearly said it was his "Original magical power"
Not that it was status promotion...

Elizabeth asked what happened
Merlin told her about one aspect of disaster, she then went one to give other examples of his ability disaster (grow and propose trees/ cull and thin)
And then said the ability is good for someone who rules the forest...


My question is are they just born with the abilities they have??
She says it's his original magical power meaning he got other magical powers after that...
The commandments got abilities from the demon king...
Ban was just a human though.. So was he born with snatch or did someone give it to him
Gowther got his abilities from the "great wizard" that created him..

So was king born with disaster ? Or granted it somehow
 

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My question is are they just born with the abilities they have??
She says it's his original magical power meaning he got other magical powers after that...
The commandments got abilities from the demon king...
Ban was just a human though.. So was he born with snatch or did someone give it to him
Gowther got his abilities from the "great wizard" that created him..

So was king born with disaster ? Or granted it somehow
Original magic power does not necessarily imply he had others. The issue here is that king's situation is murky to begin with as he has multiple power sources so to speak. King as a fairy fights in two specific ways, he draws out power of the sacred tree (in his case through chastiefol) and he has his own ability, disaster. And it can be hard to tell when each one starts. King has had more fights than most sins and even only recently we got to see disaster in action and some context as to what it does. His fighting style is completely different from anyone else due to how he supposedly uses his power (he uses his disaster to draw out the qualities of the tree).

As for powers, it seems like everyone except giants have unique abilities. With humans it seems like relatively few have any power and among those even fewer can access an ability that would allow them to make it to HK. All fairies use the sacred tree to fight and it seems like each one also has his own unique abilities. Helbram had link which does not seem to have been given to him. As for disaster, it would seem to be something king had from the start. I guess it could be a power that only the FK can have however the implication would be that king is a special fairy in that regard and that he alone does not get a unique power. Giants all have creation. Meliodas have full counter and gallan has shown some techniques (though not the name of his ability) so it would make sense that all demons have their own unique powers as well. The decrees of the commandments would be independent from their abilities.

The reactors are an interesting case as they all got their ability after consuming demon blood. I guess the question is whether the abilities they got would be the same as if they hadn't use demon blood or once they awaken their power on their own they will get different abilities. Or maybe demon blood allowed them access to a demon version of their powers so to speak...

Arthur has been said to have a power but has not awaken it yet...
 
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It's not that complicated, all fighters have their own unique magic, King's unique magic is Disaster, Helbram's unique magic is Link. The ability to use powers of the Fairy Tree is common to all Fairies,

Do you think shapeshifting is the special ability of Chastiefol or there's something else?
 
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She clearly said it was his "Original magical power"
Not that it was status promotion...

Elizabeth asked what happened
Merlin told her about one aspect of disaster, she then went one to give other examples of his ability disaster (grow and propose trees/ cull and thin)
And then said the ability is good for someone who rules the forest...


My question is are they just born with the abilities they have??
She says it's his original magical power meaning he got other magical powers after that...
The commandments got abilities from the demon king...
Ban was just a human though.. So was he born with snatch or did someone give it to him
Gowther got his abilities from the "great wizard" that created him..

So was king born with disaster ? Or granted it somehow
You're speculating that she gave only one example of Status Promotion and went on to the general ability of Disaster, which is unlikely judging by the context.
As I said, Merlin likely generalized Disaster as all of the examples she gave were related to promoting a status.
Status Promotion is used for yielding positive results is all I'm saying: propagation is enough as proof.

Anyway, no, they're not born with it, at least not humans.
Dreyfus said that magic is awakened as a result of one's will and determination.
For example, Ban might have awakened Snatch as he was a bandit or thief, so stealing would be far easier or something on those lines.
The Commandments didn't get abilities from the Demon King; they only got their decrees from him. Gokuencho, Zanbarazan and Banzaradan are all unique abilities which they themselves awakened.

King likely wanted to have control over the forest in his youth, so he awakened Disaster in order to maintain it.
 
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