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That's just it though. You don't need to see the relevance of the blocks. All that matters is:
Training arc to boost armament haki for Luffy. Not to boost his speed/durability since Luffy told Hyo in udon that he wanted to hit harder by learning internal destruction. He didn't tell Hyo that he wanted to be faster/more durable. So once again in Udon the only boost Luffy got was armament haki. No speed or durability boost.
The same way Fishman Island Zoro has been powercreeped like hell.
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It's also nice by Oda that Kaido was weakaned. Good job for Oda making Kaido got weaker tha much to the point that Luffy almost passed out from Thunder Bagua.
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1st Thunder Bagua
SO what you are telling me that you don't know how luffy whose physical capacity was reduced to an insignificant fraction of his full strength thanks to kairoseki and then in said state proceeded to move thousands of massive blocks at full speed to compete with kidd and maximize his food supply would result in him growing stronger? Ok, I see the problem here, this must be your first even shonen.
And as I said that Luffy with kairoseki was still MUCH STRONGER than pre TS Luffy who could lift much larger building. So how would stronger Luffy lifting much lighter blocks boosts Luffy's speed when much weaker Luffy in pre TS could lift much heavier building?
You seem to be full of whataboutism instead of focusing on what you yourself have done, I have already explained myself and you know full well I am correct, your initially thread title was obscenely long, it was formatted in a way which would bait whoever you were arguing with in the first place. But I'm sure you'd rather play victim and cry "what about the others" instead of trying to simply take the onus for your actions.
No you are not correct. This thread is my opinion about how Luffy speed and durability remained constant based on how Luffy vs Katakuri/Doflamingo went. Same way with discussion about Kaido is not WSC. ZKK is possible. Admirals won't be low diffed. Those are the thread creators opinions which they shared by creating these threads.
Because I wanted to know the definition of baiting with thread title so I won't do it again in the near future. That's what I'm trying to find out but you are dodging my question instead.
Shonen dictates that the blocks must be heavier than the buildings? LOL. I suggest you write to oda and explain laws of shonen to him, I think he has forgotten.
Pretty much if the purpose of Udon arc is to boost Luffy's speed but manga never stated that. Why doesn't the manga emphasize the weight of those blocks? Manga dictates Udon arc is Luffy's training arc for armament. Not speed which you keep fantasizing about.
Except, you know, we saw luffy training before his haki shenanigans started. And sure, the block thing wouldn't affect only his speed, no one said that was the case.
And as I said that Luffy was MUCH STRONGER than pre TS Luffy who lifted much larger building. So stronger Luffy lifting tiny blocks when pre TS Luffy could lift much larger building won't boost Luffy's speed.
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Definitely not the one you are reading
Yeah he trained his armament to beat Kaido. To boost his attack power to damage Kaido. He did not say anything about improving his speed. From WCI to Wano Oda showed Luffy trained only his armament. Luffy had 2 years training with Rayleigh so we can say current Luffy is much stronger than chapter 1 Luffy.
Very impressive that weakened Kaido blitzed Boundman Luffy (ch. 1042) and almost knocked him out. Pretty sure that Luffy got faster that weakened Kaido still blitzed him. And pretty sure Luffy got more durable when weakened Kaido knocked him out for few seconds. Because One Piece states Kaido got weaker. Are you reading Two Piece where Kaido did not get weaker when he fought Luffy 1 on 1 so you think Luffy got much faster and more durable?Definitely not the one you are reading
Luffy's speed and durability increased so much. Impressive!
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The two year timeskip explicitly said Luffy needs to learn and master the basics of haki. Show me the panel that says he trained his speed? Unless you can show that by your logic
Luffy beat 500 monsters who were stronger than him. He had to be stronger than them to beat them. Base Luffy with conqueror haki alone already made these monsters scared so definitely Luffy got much stronger in strength and speed. Luffy also trained his observation haki by dodging Rayleigh attacks. Rayleigh should be as fast as SNakeman so Luffy dodging attacks that fast helps to improve his movement speed.
I mean, you are basically pretending you didn't see luffy training with the blocks to make whichever point so... I don't see what the point of taking this any further.
And it was never stated lifting those blocks boost his speed. Do you have panels to back up your claims or you are making things up? Funny so are ignoring my question?
Luffy best Katakuri and Kaido. Is he faster than them now?