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He discarded the mafia that is also lover.
Games Mafia Game 87 - Baccano! - END GAME
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ah but 7 with traitor yes, not just 7 mafias
guys.... we have 2 hours and a half left.... we need to start focusing on something and deciding on it
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guys.... we have 2 hours and a half left.... we need to start focusing on something and deciding on it
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ok, does everyone agree on going on design or xnut? after we settle on the lynch we can discuss night kills n shit
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Also note that xnut/belserion didnt vote. xnut knows directly who the mafia is but wont vote.
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keep going, imagine when the person who blamed us for being tied to us and "helping town" turned out to be mafia :/
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sakura do you remember last game when we tried to kill DD to be legends and failed miserably?
It is time to do that again, worse odds desin is mafia are 50 / 50, an we already failed the first 50 last game, my math is unquestionable.
It is time to do that again, worse odds desin is mafia are 50 / 50, an we already failed the first 50 last game, my math is unquestionable.
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be another lol moment for me, I tell you what Imma keep playing these games just to cloud your minds with your weird fascinations of me
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what?
imagine when the person who blamed us for being tied to us? huh? what? @_@ your posts make me dizzy
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makes for good dirt when I get called inexperienced and not knowing how to play
she's third candidate right? she blamed us for being a PART of us right? what are you not comprehending monkey? (jk) (maybe)
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............. im sure it did
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she's third candidate right? she blamed us for being a PART of us right? what are you not comprehending monkey? (jk) (maybe)
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lmao yes! It's why I'm not even thinking about DD right now
))))))))))) that last game left a sour feeling in my gut.do that again? ok, who we voting for, desin??
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like you focusing me over mafia vote, and arguing for 100 pages did me, you're about 900 messages of pure stupidity above me
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who? i didn't understand the sentence that's why i asked, who are you referring to?
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Yes, don't lock yet, if you don't feel confortable, just be ready, let mafia pile up on xnut, good for tomorrow.lmao yes! It's why I'm not even thinking about DD right now
do that again? ok, who we voting for, desin??
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Belserion?
why do you skip school and don't attend your english grammar classes?
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you assuming im currently in school voided your whole argument monkey
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don't be mad you are contradicting yourself
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oh god, @gnut I'm sorry man but I'm gonna explode at some point.
xnut, dear, read a book, please, you'll be doing everyone especially yourself a favor.
xnut, dear, read a book, please, you'll be doing everyone especially yourself a favor.
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@xnut @sakura-aneki can you stop please? You guys are better than this, it’s just a game. Why hold bad blood?
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Okay, finally all caught up and finished organizing my thoughts on everyone. It might not be comprehensive of everything that has been said, I've skimmed through a lot in limited intervals of time, so apologies if I've missed out on something crucial.
@Goodboy (Detective) Died Night 2
@Evil3ye (Spy) Died Night 1
@Crescent Jinx (Mortician) (Super Mason) Hostkilled Day 2
@Demonspeed (Doctor)
@pudgiePenguin (Mason Recruiter) Died Night 1
@Copy Panda (Pirate) Died Night 1
@SirSamuel016 (Badass Cowboy) Lost a Duel Day 1
@Hardy (Mafia Apprentice)
@Seraph (Mentor) Lynched Day 1
@Holt (Santa Claus) (Lover) Lynched Day 2
@Organizized -> Bodyguard
@gnut -> Apprentice -> learned Bodyguard from Orgz
Orgz already claimed BG on D1 in order to disprove Seraph, very risky mafia play so likely to be town. Could always be Traitor, which could explain one of the many missing kills, but nothing else to that theory and it's kind of already been done.
G claims he learned from Orgz on the night I know I blocked him, went ballistic when I revealed it and didn't stop even after Shad revealed he had used the P0 universal protection on him. Refusing to listen to explanations and tunnel-visioning due to past experiences isn't something new -3- and there's little chance he joined Orgz in a mafia team, so either he's not Apprentice at all and decided that Orgz would be an easy townie to latch on to for gaining credibility, or he's legit. Similarly to Orgz, seeing two BGs still alive on D4 is a little weird, but not impossible with all the blocker, unkillable, protecting roles that have come out or been claimed.
@sakura-aneki -> Bulletproof
@digitaldude -> Bulletproof
Little to mention here, sakura claims to have skipped using the mechanics altogether until last night, which very meme, while DD claims he's been brewing non-stop and even tanked a RT kill. It would be very easy to prove himself tonight by passing the elixir, even if it were a mafia strategy to gain credibility with the town by giving it to a townie they don't plan to ever kill, or one of theirs who's currently trusted, it's leaps and bounds better than sakura's situation, whose actions don't make much sense. One BP in this game already sounds strong, two are very unlikely to me.
@Vandred -> Prostitute
@desin24 -> Prostitute
I've already said what little there's to say about me and my targets, from what I've read gnut was P0 protected not once but twice on N2, so I got my explanation for that and can die in peace. I don't see any way desin can be another Prostitute, I can't say I see the point in his plays but to entertain the idea, he claims brewing the elixir on N1 and N2, and blocking me on N3 when I blocked Gajeel. Farf claims she didn't get a result from spying on me, so either he blocked me as Escort, is legit and possibly Traitor (the idea G likes so much) or lied and someone from his team used P0 on teammate Gaj. Either way, blocking someone you think is Escort when you could have had a Jesus elixir ready to make you an immortal Prostitute on N4 is hard to get behind, and trying to free whatever role he was afraid I could block only makes sense from a mafia perspective to me, not a town one. Another explanation is that I've been Mafia Pirated, but there's no concrete proof to worry about that yet and it would change little of the outcome. Keeping in mind that there's gotta be a single big mafia team, keeping one member in charge of brewing elixirs while everyone else uses RT actions with enough numbers advantage is not absurd to consider, and making him switch to night actions when they're positive the TP competition has been taken care of
@Farfalla -> Spy
@Gajeel -> Banshee
The only things putting into question Farf's claim is Evil already having flipped Spy and Gajeel contrasting her results, which is very little and does more to expose Gaj than anything. Sure, there could always be a big mafia plan to make her results believable, but that would rely on too many factors to be a reasonable theory, gg wp if that's the case. Banshee is a plausible role in this game, but kind of overlaps with the potentially anti-town townie roles that were included (Pirate and Cowboy among the confirmed ones), and his behaviour is anti-town enough.
@GrySun -> Necromancer -> used Mason Recruiter and Spy
@Shad -> Bomb Defuser (Super Mason) -> recruited by Gry
@Lambu -> Jesus (Super Mason)
Now this is pretty interesting. Shad's claim of being Bomb Defuser can only mean there's a Mafia Bomb or he's Mafia Mason himself, but my D1 impression of him hasn't changed - sure, he's not a wide-eyed newbie, but that kind of play would have been really bold. The chance that Gry and Shad are mafia since the start and found the perfect cover is... kinda cool, not gonna lie lol. I've personally know Gry to be able to come up with stuff like this, and it would mean his D2 claim of having P0 protected gnut could have been a fabrication, but they would be among the last players to be considered for a lynch on this whole list imo. The idea that they're town and are able to help with RT actions is too good to ruin it with our own hands, especially because, with some luck, they can prove themselves the best way possible: by nightkilling mafia.
As for Lambu, Jesus is definitely the most out-of-place claim around. Perfect for explaining why he's not getting nightkilled, OP for making elixirs or summoning the RT. At the same time, he's gotta be aware of it himself, so he should know how such a claim would be received. Willing to suspend judgment on him for now.
@Hll -> Starting Mason
@Raven -> Starting Mason
Honestly no idea what to think of Hll, if there's a scum between him and Raven I'd be inclined to think it's Raven? But the Finalbeta is strong with this one so you never know. Raven being adamant on desin makes me trust her somewhat, but not much of the rest. More inclined to believe there was scum among the Super Masons and the starting ones were supposed to be on the Recruiter's side, but they shouldn't be too dangerous for a while at least. The fact that they claim not even attempting a collective RT action in three whole nights is painful for all the wrong reasons.
@xnut -> ??? Lover
@Belserion -> Noble (Threesome Candidate) -> joined xnut
I was a little baffled to see Bel coming out as Lover and wanting to help town, so the best I could think of is xnut wanting to help his mafia team as long as possible with making elixirs or using their numbers for RT actions, and his team telling him to convince Bel to stall for time. But to be quite honest, judging from the way he played all game, it sounds much more likely that he isn't talking to Bel at all and she's given up and decided to help us lol. Kinda lame and not the most exciting of MG plays, but I could understand where she'd be coming from and I'll take it over them helping mafia I guess...
Alright then. As for my vote, I would be inclined to give des the benefit of the doubt until he gives out his elixir, but that means giving at least two more nights to someone I'm almost completely certain must be scum. Personally I'm more eager to get our dilemma cleared out as soon as possible than getting rid of the relative danger the Lovers pose, so votekill desin24.
My personal free time situation hasn't improved by a lot, so I'll be on and off for a while, but this time I'll make sure to stick around until the end of day so I might be willing to switch if someone can convince me to go for another. I don't plan to, though.
@Organizized -> Bodyguard
@gnut -> Apprentice -> learned Bodyguard from Orgz
Orgz already claimed BG on D1 in order to disprove Seraph, very risky mafia play so likely to be town. Could always be Traitor, which could explain one of the many missing kills, but nothing else to that theory and it's kind of already been done.
G claims he learned from Orgz on the night I know I blocked him, went ballistic when I revealed it and didn't stop even after Shad revealed he had used the P0 universal protection on him. Refusing to listen to explanations and tunnel-visioning due to past experiences isn't something new -3- and there's little chance he joined Orgz in a mafia team, so either he's not Apprentice at all and decided that Orgz would be an easy townie to latch on to for gaining credibility, or he's legit. Similarly to Orgz, seeing two BGs still alive on D4 is a little weird, but not impossible with all the blocker, unkillable, protecting roles that have come out or been claimed.
@sakura-aneki -> Bulletproof
@digitaldude -> Bulletproof
Little to mention here, sakura claims to have skipped using the mechanics altogether until last night, which very meme, while DD claims he's been brewing non-stop and even tanked a RT kill. It would be very easy to prove himself tonight by passing the elixir, even if it were a mafia strategy to gain credibility with the town by giving it to a townie they don't plan to ever kill, or one of theirs who's currently trusted, it's leaps and bounds better than sakura's situation, whose actions don't make much sense. One BP in this game already sounds strong, two are very unlikely to me.
@Vandred -> Prostitute
@desin24 -> Prostitute
I've already said what little there's to say about me and my targets, from what I've read gnut was P0 protected not once but twice on N2, so I got my explanation for that and can die in peace. I don't see any way desin can be another Prostitute, I can't say I see the point in his plays but to entertain the idea, he claims brewing the elixir on N1 and N2, and blocking me on N3 when I blocked Gajeel. Farf claims she didn't get a result from spying on me, so either he blocked me as Escort, is legit and possibly Traitor (the idea G likes so much) or lied and someone from his team used P0 on teammate Gaj. Either way, blocking someone you think is Escort when you could have had a Jesus elixir ready to make you an immortal Prostitute on N4 is hard to get behind, and trying to free whatever role he was afraid I could block only makes sense from a mafia perspective to me, not a town one. Another explanation is that I've been Mafia Pirated, but there's no concrete proof to worry about that yet and it would change little of the outcome. Keeping in mind that there's gotta be a single big mafia team, keeping one member in charge of brewing elixirs while everyone else uses RT actions with enough numbers advantage is not absurd to consider, and making him switch to night actions when they're positive the TP competition has been taken care of
@Farfalla -> Spy
@Gajeel -> Banshee
The only things putting into question Farf's claim is Evil already having flipped Spy and Gajeel contrasting her results, which is very little and does more to expose Gaj than anything. Sure, there could always be a big mafia plan to make her results believable, but that would rely on too many factors to be a reasonable theory, gg wp if that's the case. Banshee is a plausible role in this game, but kind of overlaps with the potentially anti-town townie roles that were included (Pirate and Cowboy among the confirmed ones), and his behaviour is anti-town enough.
@GrySun -> Necromancer -> used Mason Recruiter and Spy
@Shad -> Bomb Defuser (Super Mason) -> recruited by Gry
@Lambu -> Jesus (Super Mason)
Now this is pretty interesting. Shad's claim of being Bomb Defuser can only mean there's a Mafia Bomb or he's Mafia Mason himself, but my D1 impression of him hasn't changed - sure, he's not a wide-eyed newbie, but that kind of play would have been really bold. The chance that Gry and Shad are mafia since the start and found the perfect cover is... kinda cool, not gonna lie lol. I've personally know Gry to be able to come up with stuff like this, and it would mean his D2 claim of having P0 protected gnut could have been a fabrication, but they would be among the last players to be considered for a lynch on this whole list imo. The idea that they're town and are able to help with RT actions is too good to ruin it with our own hands, especially because, with some luck, they can prove themselves the best way possible: by nightkilling mafia.
As for Lambu, Jesus is definitely the most out-of-place claim around. Perfect for explaining why he's not getting nightkilled, OP for making elixirs or summoning the RT. At the same time, he's gotta be aware of it himself, so he should know how such a claim would be received. Willing to suspend judgment on him for now.
@Hll -> Starting Mason
@Raven -> Starting Mason
Honestly no idea what to think of Hll, if there's a scum between him and Raven I'd be inclined to think it's Raven? But the Finalbeta is strong with this one so you never know. Raven being adamant on desin makes me trust her somewhat, but not much of the rest. More inclined to believe there was scum among the Super Masons and the starting ones were supposed to be on the Recruiter's side, but they shouldn't be too dangerous for a while at least. The fact that they claim not even attempting a collective RT action in three whole nights is painful for all the wrong reasons.
@xnut -> ??? Lover
@Belserion -> Noble (Threesome Candidate) -> joined xnut
I was a little baffled to see Bel coming out as Lover and wanting to help town, so the best I could think of is xnut wanting to help his mafia team as long as possible with making elixirs or using their numbers for RT actions, and his team telling him to convince Bel to stall for time. But to be quite honest, judging from the way he played all game, it sounds much more likely that he isn't talking to Bel at all and she's given up and decided to help us lol. Kinda lame and not the most exciting of MG plays, but I could understand where she'd be coming from and I'll take it over them helping mafia I guess...
Alright then. As for my vote, I would be inclined to give des the benefit of the doubt until he gives out his elixir, but that means giving at least two more nights to someone I'm almost completely certain must be scum. Personally I'm more eager to get our dilemma cleared out as soon as possible than getting rid of the relative danger the Lovers pose, so votekill desin24.
My personal free time situation hasn't improved by a lot, so I'll be on and off for a while, but this time I'll make sure to stick around until the end of day so I might be willing to switch if someone can convince me to go for another. I don't plan to, though.
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