Discussion Merlin

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Still even being a hybrid that would makes 3 Sins connected to demon tribe. That's too much imo considering the Sins is most diverse group in this manga.

We simply didn't know that Gowther was a demon, and he himself prolly doesn't know. I think that rule prolly doesn't stand anymore, since even without this case there's the one of Ban who is formerly human and Escanor who is human.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Anyone find it interesting that Merlin wasn't there when Elizabeth released her powers?

 

[Demonspeed]

Anyone find it interesting that Merlin wasn't there when Elizabeth released her powers?

Wasn't she busy taking care of Bartra?

 

[Hamy]

Wasn't she busy taking care of Bartra?

Yes taking "care" of him, i.e. that demonic insect inserted into his crevices.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Wasn't she busy taking care of Bartra?

Speaking of that how come Elizabeth wasn't able to heal him?

 

[Gallon]

Speaking of that how come Elizabeth wasn't able to heal him?

She had no idea she could.

 

[ShadowHeart]

She had no idea she could.

How do you explain her healing other people throughout the series even though she had no idea?

 

[Gallon]

How do you explain her healing other people throughout the series even though she had no idea?

Her power is unleashed when she expresses sadness. In every case that someone close to her was hurt, she managed to heal the wounded.
In Baltra's case, however, her sadness was alleviated when Baltra said "A crimson pig will come to my aid". Why would she feel extremely sad when "Vision" is nearly 100% accurate?

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Her power is unleashed when she expresses sadness. In every case that someone close to her was hurt, she managed to heal the wounded.
In Baltra's case, however, her sadness was alleviated when Baltra said "A crimson pig will come to my aid". Why would she feel extremely sad when "Vision" is nearly 100% accurate?

Also, i do not think Bartras ever told Elizabeth he was suffering from a Stomach Ulcer (That's what it was) and to be honest. If he was on his death bed, i bet she would have saved his life... but, nevertheless Merlin did it so it's all good

 

[ShadowHeart]

If Merlin is a fallen goddess what do you think she did for the goddess to remove her from their ranks? Mine would be she had something to do with the creations of the demon clan.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

If Merlin is a fallen goddess what do you think she did for the goddess to remove her from their ranks? Mine would be she had something to do with the creations of the demon clan.

I don't think she helped create the demon clan, per say, however she might have been willing to dig around in order to find out the truth behind their existence and their techniques. Therefore, her sin may be related to bringing back the demon clan in some way... what if her thirst for knowledge led her to act selfishly and open up Fraudrin's seal, which had a few demons in it?
What if Merlin is the reason that Ban and Meliodas's sins occurred and the commandments are back in the first place?

 

[ShadowHeart]

I don't think she helped create the demon clan, per say, however she might have been willing to dig around in order to find out the truth behind their existence and their techniques. Therefore, her sin may be related to bringing back the demon clan in some way... what if her thirst for knowledge led her to act selfishly and open up Fraudrin's seal, which had a few demons in it?
What if Merlin is the reason that Ban and Meliodas's sins occurred and the commandments are back in the first place?

Could be makes sense if she released by accident while she was experiment with demon world magic.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Could be makes sense if she released by accident while she was experiment with demon world magic.

It would also fit the theme of most, if not all sins are innocent and they actually didn't mean or even cause what happened to happen.
I'm still of a mindset that Gowther and Escanor will have committed what they were blamed for, considering Gowther's commandment backfired in his face and it so happens to be triggered via lustful actions.
But, for Merlin is kind of vague... because we don't know what she will do or why, or how, or anything major about her at all. Diane got character building in chapter 8, right after she was brought into the plot... Merlin's been here since chapter 80ish and hasn't gotten much at all...
That has to mean her backstory will be relevant in some way or another to the events that are happening now, right?
What if she did release Fraudrin and perhaps the red demon that destroyed the fairy king's forest?
What if she did it on purpose to see what would happen, or perhaps to use them as test subjects but failed to realize the gap in power between herself and Fraudrin?
Thus, she started researching the ten commandments and found out the truth that way that she had almost doomed the world?

 

[ShadowHeart]

It would also fit the theme of most, if not all sins are innocent and they actually didn't mean or even cause what happened to happen.
I'm still of a mindset that Gowther and Escanor will have committed what they were blamed for, considering Gowther's commandment backfired in his face and it so happens to be triggered via lustful actions.
But, for Merlin is kind of vague... because we don't know what she will do or why, or how, or anything major about her at all. Diane got character building in chapter 8, right after she was brought into the plot... Merlin's been here since chapter 80ish and hasn't gotten much at all...
That has to mean her backstory will be relevant in some way or another to the events that are happening now, right?
What if she did release Fraudrin and perhaps the red demon that destroyed the fairy king's forest?
What if she did it on purpose to see what would happen, or perhaps to use them as test subjects but failed to realize the gap in power between herself and Fraudrin?
Thus, she started researching the ten commandments and found out the truth that way that she had almost doomed the world?

I don't think were gonna get much on Merlin race and past until the goddess take center stage or the demon king is revived.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

I don't think were gonna get much on Merlin race and past until the goddess take center stage or the demon king is revived.

I'd imagine we'd get her past after we get Gowther's... which, we may get a glimpse of if Meliodas or Fraudrin is willing to share!
Merlin's should be next and then Escanor should be lucky last!
I believe that you are right concerning when her backstory will become relevant and might be introduced, however, i'm wondering if it might appear sooner than we think... perhaps even... when she goes to get her body fixed?

 

[ShadowHeart]

I'd imagine we'd get her past after we get Gowther's... which, we may get a glimpse of if Meliodas or Fraudrin is willing to share!
Merlin's should be next and then Escanor should be lucky last!
I believe that you are right concerning when her backstory will become relevant and might be introduced, however, i'm wondering if it might appear sooner than we think... perhaps even... when she goes to get her body fixed?

I feel Merlin's will be last told of the Sins imo after Escanor. Mainly because I think she will have a major connection to both the goddess and demon clans. I can see Nakaba slowly revealing Merlin InnateAbility/Sin/Past and race. Do you think he's left Merlin out of the tournament for a reason? I really wanna see her interact with Doler since she created Balor eye with his natural one.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

I feel Merlin's will be last told of the Sins imo after Escanor. Mainly because I think she will have a major connection to both the goddess and demon clans. I can see Nakaba slowly revealing Merlin InnateAbility/Sin/Past and race. Do you think he's left Merlin out of the tournament for a reason? I really wanna see her interact with Doler since she created Balor eye with his natural one.

I think she isn't there because firstly she would not be useful/could not be written into the tournament because she is just an orb, he is purposefully avoiding an Escalin reunion imo and i think she has gone to where Escanor's power level was at a few days back/gone to get Galan's body to study it or help reverse her curse? I think she is gone to do that or she is conserving her magic in the Boar's Hat!

Although Merlin's backstory may pertain to the goddess clan, i still can't see her backstory being before Escanor's who was literally just introduced close to 15 chapters ago. I feel like we will get Gowther's in this arc (before the 200's) and Merlin and Escanor's will be in the last part.
Who knows... maybe Escanor's sin also has to do with the goddess clan, but, it's on a whole other scale compared to the other sins?
Instead of committing murder, adultery, theft, arson etc... he did something that nobody in history could compare to?
That would be my guess on Escanor's sin, because otherwise why would it be Pride? He either needs to be proud of his sin, or he committed what i'm going to call the "ultimate act of selfishness"... or was going to!
I'm convinced Merlin's backstory is going to revolve around the goddess clan and when she falls she is going to be with Escanor for the last part of it!
Therefore, her backstory doesn't end as sadly as the others!

 

[ShadowHeart]

I think she isn't there because firstly she would not be useful/could not be written into the tournament because she is just an orb, he is purposefully avoiding an Escalin reunion imo and i think she has gone to where Escanor's power level was at a few days back/gone to get Galan's body to study it or help reverse her curse? I think she is gone to do that or she is conserving her magic in the Boar's Hat!!

Still think Nakaba has kept Merlin is because she has a connection to Doler/Balor. Even in her current state she's still a valuable ally and give information on the combatants ability. I could see Merlin picking up Galan to make him her guinea pig.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Still think Nakaba has kept Merlin is because she has a connection to Doler/Balor. Even in her current state she's still a valuable ally and give information on the combatants ability. I could see Merlin picking up Galan to make him her guinea pig.

I can see her using Galan and Scylla's remains for her experiments as well.
However, if she had a connection to Dolor i would be sort of confused... why would that be the case? It would be quite odd considering who Escanor's parents are supposed to be in myth (A giant and a witch)
But, more so than that... i would not associate those two together at all. I mean, she has his eye... or what seems to be an imitation of his power eye, but, i do not think it was the real thing.
She could easily have learnt about that from reading a book about the giant clan in ancient times... considering that Matrona knew about Dolor, she would likely have known about his eye.

 

[ShadowHeart]

I can see her using Galan and Scylla's remains for her experiments as well.
However, if she had a connection to Dolor i would be sort of confused... why would that be the case? It would be quite odd considering who Escanor's parents are supposed to be in myth (A giant and a witch)
But, more so than that... i would not associate those two together at all. I mean, she has his eye... or what seems to be an imitation of his power eye, but, i do not think it was the real thing.
She could easily have learnt about that from reading a book about the giant clan in ancient times... considering that Matrona knew about Dolor, she would likely have known about his eye.

Like the sound of that ten commandments being use as guinea pigs for Merlin after there defeated/dead.

It's the fact that she created Balor eye for an ancient family long age. Since Doler is missing his right I tend to think she used his actually used his real to create it.