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[igotthegoods]

I still need to read Berserk as well.

xi0 actually just made a post in Drmke's ask-me thread about how the plot structure and some of the characters are very much like ones in Vinland Saga, which I'm reading and enjoying right now. So, my curiosity has been piqued recently. I'm thinking that I might actually give it a shot sometime soon after I'm done catching up with Vinland.

@bb-chan - in your opinion, should I try Vagabond or Berserk as my next long seinen series?

 

[baboysai]

Vagabond ain't that long... compared to Berserk... compared to OP. haha.

Vagabond is much lighter than Berserk, so I think you should go for that one first. Then you can dwell on Berserk's darkness (for the first few arcs anyway).

 

[xi0]

I still need to read Berserk as well.

xi0 actually just made a post in Drmke's ask-me thread about how the plot structure and some of the characters are very much like ones in Vinland Saga, which I'm reading and enjoying right now. So, my curiosity has been piqued recently. I'm thinking that I might actually give it a shot sometime soon after I'm done catching up with Vinland.

@bb-chan - in your opinion, should I try Vagabond or Berserk as my next long seinen series?

The structure of The Golden Age in Berserk is pretty similar to Vinland Saga, but not Berserk as a whole. Berserk is much darker and more complex, and based much more around revenge and fate. Revenge is certainly there for Vinland Saga, but I think it's much deeper in Berserk, for obvious reasons, if you read it.

 

[Faux-kun]

Hi everyone. D8 nervous*

Anyway.. I Need some more manga to read. O__O Been reading Guardian Dog and Liar Game at the same time, but I need MOAR ]8

any recommendations then? :">

something with adventure, fantasy, psychological, horror with any of those combinations.

Thanks in advance. O__O

 

[baboysai]

something with adventure, fantasy, psychological, horror with any of those combinations.

we were just talking about something like that. gary, I give you the honors.

 

[Faux-kun]

Yeah, I checked Vagabond. Art was really awesome, but I'm not into the story. ^^;

 

[baboysai]

well, something that should fit to a T what you're looking for:

adventure, fantasy, psychological, horror- would be Berserk. methinks.

Gantz isn't fantasy, it's sci-fi, but it's also quite like what you might be looking for.

if it's adventure, and total awesome-ness, then 20th Century Boys? I think you haven't read that as well? Needs a lot of mental effort to follow the story with a 5 dozen characters and time-jumps, but you won't regret it.

 

[Kaiten]

20th Century Boys is a classic, it's one of the more rewarding manga. Monster, an earlier work by the same mangaka is just as good, if not better. Psychological thrillers/mystery. If your looking for action, read something by Nihei: Blame!, Noise, Biomega, and Abara.

 

[Drmke]

something with adventure, fantasy, psychological, horror with any of those combinations.

If that's what you're looking for then the most obvious is Berserk if you haven't read it. It has all of those things like xi0 said. Its a very good and sometimes complex story but has a very infrequent release schedule so you may want to consider that as well.

 

[Crude]

So I recently rewatched my favourite movie, Fight Club, and came to realize that I really need to read more adult stuff. Shounen is cool, but sometimes I need something a little more mature. Basically I want to read something along the lines of "transgressive fiction" (the same genre as Fight Club, and the book of the same that it was based on). Does anyone know of any series that fit that genre? I started reading Crime and Punishment, which seems to fit the genre, despite being an adaptation of the Russian novel of the same name which was written a century before said genre was named.

Here's the definition of "transgressive fiction":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgressive_fiction

 

[Roflkopt3r]

Vagabond ain't that long... compared to Berserk... compared to OP. haha.

Vagabond is much lighter than Berserk, so I think you should go for that one first. Then you can dwell on Berserk's darkness (for the first few arcs anyway).

I read berserk first and plan to read Vagabond soon, though I fear the Berserk-Shigurui combo I read might make Vagabond seem too flat and light in the end - that's two awesome, bloody, cruel and dark stories, one of them covering the samurai scenario already - Might be too much to still enjoy it

 

[Kaiten]

So I recently rewatched my favourite movie, Fight Club, and came to realize that I really need to read more adult stuff. Shounen is cool, but sometimes I need something a little more mature. Basically I want to read something along the lines of "transgressive fiction" (the same genre as Fight Club, and the book of the same that it was based on). Does anyone know of any series that fit that genre? I started reading Crime and Punishment, which seems to fit the genre, despite being an adaptation of the Russian novel of the same name which was written a century before said genre was named.

Here's the definition of "transgressive fiction":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgressive_fiction

Two series that come close to what you're looking for. Both imagine alternate realities where transgression is institutionalized, or tolerated, and the consequences.

Freesia: A bill is passed allowing revenge killings for serious crimes. If the victim, or victims family, do not want to carry out the killing themselves they can hire an agency to send professional killers. Kano, the main character is a killer for one of these agencies. The last few people I rec'ed this to were not happy with me, it can get very disturbing, especially early on.

Ultra Heaven: An alternate Japan where hallucinatory drugs are legal. Kabu, the main character, is a drug addict and minor peddler. After taking a drug called Ultra Heaven reality, dream, and hallucination begin to blend together. One of the best art series in my opinion. Very reminiscent of William Burroughs.

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I read berserk first and plan to read Vagabond soon, though I fear the Berserk-Shigurui combo I read might make Vagabond seem too flat and light in the end - that's two awesome, bloody, cruel and dark stories, one of them covering the samurai scenario already - Might be too much to still enjoy it

Vagabond is pretty different, it's hard to compare to Berserk/Shigurui. It's more Buddhist; that the closer one comes to inner peace, the greater a warrior one becomes. It's a very philosophical manga, that happens to have some great sword fights.

 

[Crude]

I've heard about Freesia, in fact I came close to reading it. I didn't for some reason, though I'll probably check it out now along with Ultra Heaven, of which I only heard of the name before. I'd also like to read Vagabond, but I'm saving it for actual purchases. I found out that there's a manga/comic store not too far, and I saw both Vagabond tankoubon and Viz Big editions. And as for Berserk, I watched the first anime series and purchased a volume, but I'm going to be watching the new anime series (which looks beautiful). Thanks for the recommendations Kaiten .

 

[baboysai]

Vagabond is much lighter than Berserk, so I think you should go for that one first. Then you can dwell on Berserk's darkness (for the first few arcs anyway).

LOL I totally take this back. When I was rereading the chapters, the depth of vagabond ran my brain through a propeller and got stir-fried. haha the many different layers and interpretations of strength in buddhist lingo... the profoundness of the speech really fries my brain.

It adds to the charm though.

 

[benelori]

One inherent quality that is unique in seinen is the mindf*ck twists that screw your head thirty times over. This you can't find in any other demographic. So mystery, contemporary, or conceptual manga are awesome for seinen. They are really unmatched. Like Doubt and Monster.

I just wanted to ask the names of the authors of these titles...though I think Monster is Urasawa Naoki's work

 

[baboysai]

Yeah, Monster is by Urasawa. Doubt is by Yoshiki Tonogai. Er... however, now that I've checked, Doubt was released in Monthly Shounen Gangan so it ought to be shounen. A very violent shounen @_@

 

[benelori]

I will start Doubt then as well...and I was spot on with Monster...I knew it after I read the first few chapters...I finished volume 2, and by the time I will get back here, I will be over with it...it's that good...thanks for bringing it up in the first place

 

[shaheer]

hmm try Doubt...the shonen one by Tonogai yoshiki...its an awesome thriller... you will love every moment of it if you are thriller lover, i can guarantee .... catch is its very short.... but its a good thing because it it was like they stretch on without any materials like in most ongoings that we see... then it would be a complete waste of time

 

[Shinsatsu]

I have a question guys.
Wolfen Crest... how much time between chapter releases? I want to know if it's a regular manga...

 

[Kaiten]

Young Champion is bi-weekly. No idea if Wolf Guy is caught up though.