What is your favorite Natsu's spell/ability?

  • Fire Dragon's Claw

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  • Fire Dragon's Iron Fist

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  • Fire Dragon's Wing Attack

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  • Fire Dragon's Sword Horn

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  • Fire Dragon's Flame Elbow

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  • Fire Dragon's Crushing Fang

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  • Fire Dragon's Grip Strike

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  • Fire Dragon's Roasting Bath

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  • Dragon God's Brilliant Flame

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  • Planetary Flames: Exploding Flame Blade

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  • Lightning Fire Dragon Mode

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  • Lightning Fire Dragon's Iron Fist

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  • Lightning Fire Dragon's Firing Hammer

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  • Black Fire Dragon Mode

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  • Transformation Magic

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  • Thought Projection

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  • Durability & Endurance

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  • Melee Combat Skills

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  • Other (mention in the comment)

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SleipnirX

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I would definitely say he’d set up for it to play a bigger part in the series, but ultimately cut it for whatever reason - you don’t tease something like that to that extent if you’re not actually intending to go through with it and find an ultimate resolution for the character one way or another. A quick chat with igneel to get rid of some odd metaphorical seeds wasn’t what he originally had in mind, you can be quite certain...
 

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I agree with the others here.

Mashima definitely foreshadowed END to the point where a major plot or storyline should have been centered on that subject. This was further emphasized after Gray received his IDeS magic from Silver, whose original intention was to defeat the fire demon.

And if that wasn't enough, Zeref (arguably one of the main antagonists in the story) gave a detailed backstory describing the origins of END, which added even more hype.


To be honest, the END that we saw in the manga only seemed to be half of the full transformation.

In my opinion, the plot was ridiculously rushed to focus more on Zeref and Acnologia. If I had known how those 2 turned out to be towards the end of the manga, I would've had rather seen them scrapped from the ending entirely, and instead, let the story expand on END's significance.
 

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It is clear that there was a problem, mashima boasted END from the village of the sun with the words of atlas flame that:

"" END the strongest and most terrible demon of zeref, that even igneel could not defeat ".

Emphasized in the arc tartaros, which all the arc was intended to awaken END + the words of zeref, Marde and igneel on END and acno:

Zeref:

"" I wonder who will find me first you or him? You will have to choose between the killed or the left to live, you only little to defeat END ""

Marde,:

"" Why is he there? Is it for killing END before its rebirth? the fear it has this point "

Igneel:

"Do not you dare to destroy the book and above all do not open the book under any circumstances, why you are afraid of Acno, the revival of END has been canceled"

And the final revelation of the Arc that natsu = END.

With that alone, it promised us a lot:

-Natsu who was going to become bad because of END.

OR

-End another personality for natsu.

I had thought that if Natsu and END had been separated it was precisely because of this, Natsu had the base was nasty (like goku baby) and was incontrolable, seeing that he had managed to hurt igneel and so was a threat to the plan.

That END is the only demon capable of killing zeref but that by irony it is the only demon that resides at the order of killed zeref unlike the other demon.

So zeref enclosed END in the book and natsu became nice, zeref entrusted natsu a igneel to make it stronger; to take over on END + the plan against acnologia.

Until the day or zeref decide to die for good and then open the book so that END and natsu will make one again.

That with the death of igneel his was going to change something in natsu that would begin to make it sinked in the darkness.

Seeing that natsu asks gray of the finished if he went mad and put himself to the wounded people.

Then with alvarez much thing we changed, Zeref shows us the past that natsu was never bad, that if igneel could not kill natsu it is because he loved it.

But Zeref made a hole in the book, many people thought that END would profit in part to get out of the book and come in natsu.

Which was the case, the seed of the demon is made to grow from the, so it was thought that it was the that natsu would become possessed or go mad or bad.

And had it happened when lucy is "dead", natsu became mad with rage and gets black claws and dimaria describes him as a monster who surpassed the power of the gods and ended up traumatized by it.


And after erza calms natsu and gray and he loses his black claws, we know said he would retrieve them later.


So natsu almost died because of the fusion of the seeds; so it was thought that natsu was going to succeed merged the seeds and become something else.

That the anti-body of igneel would no longer have effect and that it would be transformed into a demon dragon.

natsu wakes up and nothing seems to have changed.

And that's where there was a problem, or that its editor told him not for that.

END died at that time must believe.

Natsu will fight against zeref, he will match, lucy opens the book but nothing happens for natsu, no transformation no PU nothing.

Natsu dies, lucy treats him by rewriting the book, he is cured but nothing more, still no transformation, nor PU.

It beats zeref, the book disappears and natsu survives in a way not very clear.

In what way does the fact that Lucy writes their memory in the book made that natsu is no longer bound to zeref and the book?

Did natsu become 100% human?

Did lucy become the new "" book "" and so is related to natsu?

We know nothing, nothing is said, nothing is explained.

Then he fights acno and still no transformation, nor PU.

And here the manga is finished.

As I said there was so much potential and nothing was done.

Even if it was too late to show another personality for natsu + do an inner fight.

Mashima could make a natsu who goes crazy once the book opened by Lucy but once she starts to rewrite it, natsu gets calm + gets END power, just the black claws.

And in the fight against acno natsu emerges its transformation into etherus full END.

It would have been awesome or even if he had just used the black claws his will have enough for me, history to say that END had a utility for the story.
 

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If E.N.D is really that powerful , that's means it is true becuase Base Natsu defeated many powerful opponents easy like twin dragons. That Unsion Raid should have beaten him because it merges into one magic and yet Natsu owned them without using second origin. Natsu wasn't using demon, dragon or Etherious form. I think E.N.D is should be ranked in ten commandments level for some reason:
-In base form did one-shot many gods like God of time , God of War and a God who has infinity magic
-Dimaria mentioned E.N.D power surpassed the Gods
-Atlas stated E.N.D was the most powerful demon that Zeref created
-Zeref was lying about E.N.D being not the guild master because he didn't his brother to put in trouble
-Tartaros members claim END is their guild master so this means they saw him but They don't remember what he looks like because Zeref erased their memories in 400+ years ago to hide his identity.


-There is another thing about Atlas say something fishy about Igneel failing to defeat END , in 400+ years ago Igneel fought him but he couldn't defated him becuase he was too strong? I like to discuss about that.
A question can Zeref erease the book of END like he did with Mard? But why he didn't do it ? wait a second if Natsu was linked with END's life that would make him immortal? .... I don't think so...or is because if Zeref Ereased him it kill Natsu right? There are too many plot holes about END.
 

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Of the fact that in the animated, will have corrected that + to make a spin off, FT zero 2 on zeref poour filled the hole.

And if mashima really did not want to use END as a PU, demonic form or dark side; then he will have had to say it to zeref during the first fight against natsu.

"" yes natsu you are a demon but, you have no form etherus, no dark side, you are a demon just because you are bound to the book is everything "".

That's how he was released with END, fans were warned and will not wait for END.

At worst, even a hidden PU for natsu gave him the necessary level to beat zeref the white and acno.
 

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Can Natsu Control the power level of his FDK. First time he used it on Ikusa-Tsunagi, the spell shattered him to pieces. But when he used it Jacob he didn't even die. I don't see how Jacob has better durability than Ikusa-Tsunagi.
 

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Can Natsu Control the power level of his FDK. First time he used it on Ikusa-Tsunagi, the spell shattered him to pieces. But when he used it Jacob he didn't even die. I don't see how Jacob has better durability than Ikusa-Tsunagi.
I think natsu did not use the same strike force.

For Itosunagi, he really wanted to destroy it, for Jacob he just wanted to knock him out.
 

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Can Natsu Control the power level of his FDK. First time he used it on Ikusa-Tsunagi, the spell shattered him to pieces. But when he used it Jacob he didn't even die. I don't see how Jacob has better durability than Ikusa-Tsunagi.
Yes.

He can probably control how much power he puts into all of his spells. It's just that better spells have better maximum output.
 

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Can Natsu Control the power level of his FDK. First time he used it on Ikusa-Tsunagi, the spell shattered him to pieces. But when he used it Jacob he didn't even die. I don't see how Jacob has better durability than Ikusa-Tsunagi.
Jacob is obviously tougher than Ikusatsunagi, just via the fact that he is aSpriggan
 

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I have made the poll "What is your favorite Natsu's spell/ability?"

You guys can vote up to 7 options due to many spells

@August_Lightning I cant make one for Gajeel since he doesnt have thread......
 

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ladies and gentlemen!!!

the time has come for greatness :clap2

I put all my 7 votes to one and only


 

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any else I miss?

what is the official name for wild emotion spell?
 

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Curse power?
 

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any else I miss?

what is the official name for wild emotion spell?
It's just an FDK demolition fist in base with Natsu's flame of emotion reached to max.
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Only DF I like is the one that was powered by Ignia's flame. Animation of the DF he used against Zeref was ugly. Fanfics of that DF was better though.
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ladies and gentlemen!!!

the time has come for greatness :clap2

I put all my 7 votes to one and only


I used to think Mavis was really dumb for interrupting DF Natsu and Base Zeref but when you think about it, Mavis really saved Zeref's ass there.
 

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It's a demolition fist with "raging" flames of emotion:

 
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