Discussion NNT versus thread

[sobreno]

All he said was that taking Zeldris on in battle would require a large source of his magic power.

Gowther's feats and how Invasion works itself is still a threat against Zeldris.

It isn't when Zeldoris literally has the perfect hax to counter it.

It is literally useless against him excepted the suicide technique one but for that, he still need to land and if he miss his target, he died for nothing lol.

All in all, Zeldoris is a horrible match up for him, hence why he avoided fighting Zeldoris and abandoned Dolor to his fate.

 

[Ger]

Just use a forbidden spell and make Zeldris kill himself out of memory manipulation.

would it be in gowther's character to use that?? the reason why he used that technique because of the main goal "stop the war"

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i dont think gowther will use it in character in just a petty death match against demon prince.
unless it benefits the whole people which defeating zeldris doesn't gain anything lol.

as for pulling the forbidden spell we dont know if it's instantaneous when pulling it, so for all we know it probably takes time to pull the technique.

 

[sobreno]

Gowther's forbidden technique is a self killing move lol.

Obviously, you aren't using that kind of technique in Character and he also obviously needed preparation + help via borrowing someone's else magic.

He can't do it on his own despite not even fighting at all lol.

Anyway, Zeldoris beat him because he counter him way too hard with God which cancel any magic attack launched toward Zeldoris.

 

[Seven777]

Original Gowther vs Zeldris

Gowther should take it, he looked pretty certain in his victory over Zeldris despite knowing he was the DK's representitive, so the Ruler shouldnt be a problem. Gowther even seemed to think he could continue with his spell afterwards too.

In fact we already know Gowther's magic can surpass the full might of The Ruler, sure he has to sacrifice his life, but thats only when he has to also affect a being as powerful as the DK(which Zeldris isnt) as well as bypassing the Ruler, as well as the SD, as well as Meliodas, Mael, Ludociel, Elizabeth and countless other angels and demons.
Against Zeldris' alone, and his weak, watered down version of the Ruler, Gowther should be easily be able to bypass it without sacrificing his life.

 

[Estarossa173]

Original Gowther vs Zeldris

Can go either way. We haven't seen enough of Original Gowther's powers to really say how strong he is.

 

[sobreno]

Gowther should take it, he looked pretty certain in his victory over Zeldris despite knowing he was the DK's representitive, so the Ruler shouldnt be a problem. Gowther even seemed to think he could continue with his spell afterwards too.

In fact we already know Gowther's magic can surpass the full might of The Ruler, sure he has to sacrifice his life, but thats only when he has to also affect a being as powerful as the DK(which Zeldris isnt) as well as bypassing the Ruler, as well as the SD, as well as Meliodas, Mael, Ludociel, Elizabeth and countless other angels and demons.
Against Zeldris' alone, and his weak, watered down version of the Ruler, Gowther should be easily be able to bypass it without sacrificing his life.

He looks what? Lmao, more like he run away from Zeldoris.

The downplay is real.

His full might doesn't surpass the Ruler, it didn't target him but someone else, it is the aftereffects that target him.

And he had to die + get some help for that.

He isn't doing shit to Zeldoris here on one vs one.
He will always run away.

 

[Ger]

Gowther was worried by the time he felt zeldris coming. He said he doesnt want to exhaust his magic fighting him which his goal is only to stop the war with the forbidden spell.

Gowther really has shown no feats backing anything that will guarantee his win.

 

[Master of the Sun]

Original Gowther vs Merlin
King vs Merlin
Merlin vs Sariel
Merlin vs Tarmiel
Merlin vs Ludo
Merlin vs Elizabeth
Merlin vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs Chandler
Original Gowther vs Cusack
Original Gowther vs Sariel
Original Gowther vs Tarmiel
Original Gowther vs Ludo
Original Gowther vs Elizabeth
Original Gowther (without killing himself) vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs The One

 

[sobreno]

Original Gowther vs Merlin
King vs Merlin
Merlin vs Sariel
Merlin vs Tarmiel
Merlin vs Ludo
Merlin vs Elizabeth
Merlin vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs Chandler
Original Gowther vs Cusack
Original Gowther vs Sariel
Original Gowther vs Tarmiel
Original Gowther vs Ludo
Original Gowther vs Elizabeth
Original Gowther (without killing himself) vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs The One

Original Gowther.
Current King
Sariel unless with preparation, Merlin
Same like above
Same like above
Merlin
Mael of course
Chandler
Cusack
Original Gowther if he can land Invasion otherwise Sariel because he has more mobility.
Same like above.
Same like above.
Original Gowther.
Mael obviously.
The One.

 

[Demonspeed]

I think Zeldris wins but it will be very hard for him. Even if Zeldris has God, this is not a passive ability. Gowther Sr. was also a Mage, unlike his son he had many spells he was able to use along with Invasion and he was the greatest Mage of his clan.

Gowther should take it, he looked pretty certain in his victory over Zeldris despite knowing he was the DK's representitive, so the Ruler shouldnt be a problem. Gowther even seemed to think he could continue with his spell afterwards too.

In fact we already know Gowther's magic can surpass the full might of The Ruler, sure he has to sacrifice his life, but thats only when he has to also affect a being as powerful as the DK(which Zeldris isnt) as well as bypassing the Ruler, as well as the SD, as well as Meliodas, Mael, Ludociel, Elizabeth and countless other angels and demons.
Against Zeldris' alone, and his weak, watered down version of the Ruler, Gowther should be easily be able to bypass it without sacrificing his life.

He was not certain, he said he could win, but he would need to use a lot of power for that.

 

[Seven777]

I think Zeldris wins but it will be very hard for him. Even if Zeldris has God, this is not a passive ability. Gowther Sr. was also a Mage, unlike his son he had many spells he was able to use along with Invasion and he was the greatest Mage of his clan.



He was not certain, he said he could win, but he would need to use a lot of power for that.

Alright, lets say he looked pretty confident then. Thinking about how well off he's gonna be after the fight rather than considering whether he's gonna lose gives me that impression personally.

Original Gowther vs Merlin
King vs Merlin
Merlin vs Sariel
Merlin vs Tarmiel
Merlin vs Ludo
Merlin vs Elizabeth
Merlin vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs Chandler
Original Gowther vs Cusack
Original Gowther vs Sariel
Original Gowther vs Tarmiel
Original Gowther vs Ludo
Original Gowther vs Elizabeth
Original Gowther (without killing himself) vs Mael (with Sun)
Original Gowther vs The One

Merlin, she's surpassed him
King, too much Chastiefol
Merlin if she knows the fights coming
Merlin if she knows the fights coming
Ludo, based on nothing but my hype
Merlin
Mael
OGowther, he's the best demon mage
OGowther, his mind tricks are better
OGowther
OGowther
Ludo, cause my hyped
OGowther
Mael
The One

A lot of this is based purely on my hype for certain characters, so dont at me.

 

[sobreno]

8th gate might guy vs meliodas full power who wins
I'll go with might guy

Meliodas because his ability is literally Hakai.

He will " destroy " like he destroyed casually the DK.

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Pompadour King vs. Zeldris

Who wins?

Zeldoris because King is nothing but magic attack lol.

Worse match up against like Zeldoris and his DK power.

 

[the powerscaller]

Meliodas because his ability is literally Hakai.

He will " destroy " like he destroyed casually the DK.

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Zeldoris because King is nothing but magic attack lol.

Worse match up against like Zeldoris and his DK power.

sorry but Mel would be lucky if ge survives one punch from guy.
and for that hakai night guy would just simply distort it as he just bended the space by that.
to think a weakling like meliodas win or do any shit against guy is foolish

 

[sobreno]

sorry but Mel would be lucky if ge survives one punch from guy.
and for that hakai night guy would just simply distort it as he just bended the space by that.
to think a weakling like meliodas win or do any shit against guy is foolish

I agree that Guy will trash Meliodas or anyone in NNT since he has far superior feat and scaling for NNT verse.

But if Meliodas's ability literally bypasses durability like I believe, then, it should hakai even Guy or anyone in Naruto verse.

 

[the powerscaller]

I agree that Guy will trash Meliodas or anyone in NNT since he has far superior feat and scaling for NNT verse.
didn't I say that night guy would just simply bend that hakai and kick him just like when he did to madara he literally bent the space
But if Meliodas's ability literally bypasses durability like I believe, then, it should hakai even Guy or anyone in Naruto verse.

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I agree that Guy will trash Meliodas or anyone in NNT since he has far superior feat and scaling for NNT verse.

But if Meliodas's ability literally bypasses durability like I believe, then, it should hakai even Guy or anyone in Naruto verse.

didn't I just say that night guy will distort hakai and kick him just like it did to madara. he literally bent space in night guy

 

[sobreno]

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didn't I just say that night guy will distort hakai and kick him just like it did to madara. he literally bent space in night guy

How can he do that if he got destroyed anyway?

It will distort space but it doesn't matter since once activated, everything around Mel get literally hakai-ed lol.
That is too broken.

 

[Redworld96]

Merlin is too OP, I don’t see how current King could beat her ...

 

[sobreno]

Merlin is too OP, I don’t see how current King could beat her ...

She isn't that OP, he is too much for her.

She is good at setting trap via preparations which is unless in a straight one vs one fight.

 

[Ger]

King is REALLY versatile people are overrating Merlin here just because her magic allows heher to invocate magic forever but his chastiefol forms are so versatile Merlin cant do anything against it.

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if you guys wanna debate me with all my might let's debate or someone if they're willing to test their knowledge on taizai

gilthunder vs zarathros

 

[the powerscaller]

How can he do that if he got destroyed anyway?

It will distort space but it doesn't matter since once activated, everything around Mel get literally hakai-ed lol.
That is too broken.

demon king is a weakling compared to guy that'd why he got hakai but not guy also why need for night guy when guy can one shot him from a large distance from just one evening elephant vacuum punch