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[Rowen]

Re: Translating Woe's

Thank you for taking the time to translate that. As I am learning I can go back to that and see how you extrapolated that from the Kanji/Hiragana. Should be fun!


I used the first issue of Tenchi I picked up while in Japan 10 years ago. It had Furigana so that I could easily find the Kanji in my dictionary lol.

 

[Emily00]

Re: Translating Woe's

Haha, yeah I still have some old school copies of Sailor Moon I got when I was like 15, which I still read often for practice. It's great.

 

[Rowen]

Re: Translating Woe's

One thing I don't understand after looking at the guide posted above is this.

見つける　　- means discover, come across

According to the guide u-verbs ending in る　should be changed to つた。

However, in the example I posted its changed to たわ。

Why is that? It makes learning this so much more complicated lol.

(also as a side question, how can you find look up something like 'discover' above when it has been altered due to the change of the tense? I looked all over the dictionary I had when trying to translate it and could not find it anywhere.)

Thanks in advance for any help, I know I'm asking a ton of questions.

---

I believe I found the answer to part of my question.

The word discover was dictionary form so る　is changed to た。　

But that doesn't explain why わ　was added. I see tradedaemon said it was to add, I guess it was female emphasis to the sentence?

Just trying to understand it all. Hope I'm not bombarding you guys with to many questions.

 

[Emily00]

Re: Translating Woe's

Yeah, 見つける　is a ru-verb so it just changes る to た for past tense.

As for わ , its just a sentence ending, similar to other sentence endings you've probably heard (like よ or ね） that adds emotion. And わ is feminine, don't think I've ever heard it used by a man.

For a dictionary like you explained, one of various dictionaries I use is a program called Wakan (http://wakan.manga.cz/),if you type a verb into it even if its past tense, negative, etc, the first verb it will give you is usually the correct verb (in dictionary form).

 

[Ju-da-su]

Re: Translating Woe's

わ is just a . . . some kind of faminine ending of the sentence (don't really know how to explain it) So, yep, just as tradedaemon said.

And . . . it's kind of hard to explain, but . . . if the polite form (-masu) ended with "-rimasu" (plain form is "-ru") then you have to add the small tsu when changed to either ta-form or te-form. If it's something like mitsukeru, which is when the polite form didn't end with "-rimasu" but plain form ends with "-ru", then you don't need the small tsu.

Sorry, can't type Japanese with this computer, so I just leave it as romaji.

 

[Espling]

First translation done, need som criticism

I've done a translation of Yotsubato! Chapter 22. Motivation behind this choice was purely based on convenience. I happen to own volume 4 of the manga, it was the first chapter of the volume, and it seemed to be something good for a beginner to try.

Now, I started out with writing the japanese side by side with the translation, but found the language switching a bit too much so I stopped around half-way or something. Next time I'll try writing down the entire japanese script before translating and see if that works better. I did however manage to get my hands on a raw: Click here

Spoiler

Page 1

Yotsuba is being awesome, with the chapter title and number to her right: Chapter 22 - Yotsuba and the duel

Page 2

Yotsuba and Koiwai: Janken / Pon!
Yotsuba: Wah! / Hah!

Page 3

SFX: Smack!
Yotsuba: AGAIN! (もっかいだ！）

Page 4

Yotsuba: Janken / Pon!
Koiwai: Wrong, that's mine. (違う　それ俺）
Yotsuba: Oh...
SFX: Smack!
Yotsuba: Janken / Pon!
Koiwai: Wrong, that's mine. (違う　それ俺）

Page 5

Yotsuba: Enough! (もー!!) / Dad, next is paper! （とーちゃん　つぎはパー！）/ Choose paper next! (つぎはパーだして！）
Koiwai: Why should I? (なんでだよ)
Yotsuba: Dad is paper! Dad is paper! (とーちゃんパー!　とーちゃんパー!）/ Understood!? (わかった!?)
Koiwai: Yeah, okay, okay (あー　わかった　わかった）
Yotsuba: Janken

Page 6

Yotsuba: Pon!
SFX: Smack!
Yotsuba: Cunning! (ずるいー！）/ You cunning meanie! (ずーるーいーなー!!）
NOTE: My jisho says that this is "cunning" or "sly", but in the context that seems a bit strange to use in english. Her face says "mean" rather, so...
Koiwai: That's what adults are. （大人はずるいものさ）
Yotsuba: These adults! (おとなは！) / Always these adults! (まったくおとなは！）
Jambo: What the hell are you two doing? (何やってんだ　おまえら）

Page 7

Yotsuba: What's this!? Presents!? (なんだこれ!?　おみやげ!?）
Jambo: Yup, that's right. (おう　そーだ！）
Yotsuba: It's ICE-CREAM! (アイスクリームだーっ!!）/ There's three of them and they're all mine! (３つある！　ぜんぶよつばのだ!!）
Jambo: Um... No. One per person, right? (いやいや　一人一本だろう）/ Well, let's start with yotsuba choosing which one she'd like (じゃあよつばから好きなの選べ
Yotsuba: Yeah! (おー！) / Chocolate, Vanilla, Azuki...
NOTE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azuki

Page 8

Yotsuba (not in speech-bubble): Hm... Hmm... They all look so tasty...
Koiwai: Okay, dad eats them all (よしじゃあとーちゃんが全部食べて）/ and he'll tell Yotsuba which one was the tastiest (一番おしかったのをよつばにやろう）
Yotsuba: Wow! That's a great idea! (おー！それはいいかんがえだ！）
Koiwai（not in speech-bubble): Okay, then I'll eat them all. (じゃ　全部いただきまーす）
Jambo: Are you okay with this? He'll eat them all, you know. (...いいのか？全部食べられちゃうぞ？)
Yotsuba: These adults! (おとなは！) / Always these adults! (まったくおとなは！）
Koiwai: Your reaction is way too slow... (反応遅いなあー）

Page 9

Words in background: Azuki --> (points at yotsuba) Vanilla -->(Koiwai) Chocolate-->(Jambo)
Yotsuba: Jambo, the flowers have started to wither (ジャンボ　おはなげんきなくなってきた）
Jambo: Ah... / Since it's been almost a week already (もう一週間くらいたつからなあー）
Koiwai: I've heard that talking to the plants are good (植物は話しかけてやるといいって聞いたことあるな)
Yotsuba: Oh...
Yotsuba (not in speech-bubble): Uhm...
Yotsuba: How are you? (げんきですか?）

Page 10

Jambo: Things you could do to make it live longer would be... (長生きさせるには…　そうだなあ　よつばにできるのは）/ Changing the water everyday, perhaps? (水を毎日交換することかな）
Yotsuba: Oh
Jambo: Oh? / You've got some interesting things here after all. (面白いもんがあるじゃん)
Yotsuba: Badminton! / I borrowed them from Ena! / I'm doing special training right now! (いまとっくんしてるんだ！）
Jambo: Really?

Page 11

Page 12

Jambo: Hoiyo!
SFX: Pan! / Pechin!
Yotsuba: Ha! / oh...
Jambo: Oh! But you hit it properly! (お！　でもちゃんと当たるじゃん！ / You can do it!　（やるな！）
Koiwai: Cause you had special training with dad, right?
Yotsuba: Right / Rigid special training... / We don't hit them like normal / We hit them hard!
NOTE: Don't know if this is a good translation, since I didn't really get the original japanese that well. Went like this: ブンってするんじゃなくて　パンってやるんだよ
Jambo: Oh, really? Well let's have another go!

Page 13

SFX: Pon! / Pen! / Pan! / Pen!
Yotsuba: I'm still in! (つづいた！　つづいた！) / All right! (よし）/ Finishing move!　（ひっさつわざだ！）
SFX: guru guru (spin spin)

Page 14

SFX: guru guru / potan / guru guru / pooon / kuru kuru / batan
Yotsuba: Bleh...
Jambo: What the hell are you trying to do? (何がしたいんだ　何が)
Jambo (Not in speech-bubble): Begin with the basics / After that, finishing moves. (まずは基本だ　必殺技はそのあと）
Yotsuba (not in speech-bubble): The basics, huh? They are important... (きほんかー　だいじなー）

Page 15

Yotsuba: Oh, right. / Who's the better of dad and Jambo?
Both: Ha ha ha! / That'd be me.

Page 16

Koiwai: KIEEE---!
Jambo: KUAAA---!
Koiwai: CHOO-!
Jambo: CHAA-!
Koiwai: CHEAA-!
JAmbo: CHOEE-!
Koiwai: HUA-!
Jambo: HOIYA-!
Yotsuba: Hurry up and start.
Both: Yes, ma'm

Page 17

Koiwai: Let's do it! (いくぞー) / Ah, Asagi-san.
Jambo: EH!?
SFX: Pen
Yotsuba: Out.
SFX and voices in backround: Teryaa! / *PASHI!* / Awesome! / Wait just one second here!

Page 18

Jambo: This one was below, right? It was below the string!
Koiwai: I'm telling you it went above! Where were you watching?! / Listen! It went like this / and just passed above the string / then BANG! / pierced into the ground / GYURURURURU! / and dug ten centimeters down into the ground! / Digging it up was monumentous task in itself!
Jambo: Oh, I get it! You're trying to tell me / that you are an idiot, idiot!

Page 19

Ena: Yotsuba-chaan
Miura: What are you doing? Playing badminton?
Yotsuba: Yup, It's a battle between adults
Koiwai: Ah! Yotsuba! Judge Yotsuba!
Jambo: You saw that right now, didn't you, Yotsuba?
Yotsuba: Yeah, it was ok.
Jambo or Koiwai: !? / Did it go above or below!?
Yotsuba: If you ask me what I saw it as...
Both: Yes, yes, / if you saw it that's enough

Page 20

Yotsuba: It went right through the string!
Both: EEH!?
Jambo: Which is it if it goes through? / safe or out!?
Koiwai: I am not familiar enough with the rules to say which it would be...
Miura: What are you talking about?
Koiwai: Oh! / Ena-chan, Miura-chan, hey
Mirua: Sup?
Ena: Hi!
Jambo: Ah

Page 21

Jambo: Lamborghini Miura is a girl today?
Miura: As always...?
Ena: Oh, right. Since you're no snail.
Both: Snail?
Ena: There are no distinctions between sexes in snails, you know.
Both: Oh...
Ena: Since Jambo mistook you for a boy yesterday / but today you're a girl
Miura: You watch your mouth / I'm trying to say that I've always been a girl
Jambo: I'm sorry, did I hurt this girl's feelings?
Miura: AAGH! Just shut up already!

Page 22

Jambo: Yesterdays fireworks, / did you write about them in your picture-diary? / That you were treated by this really nice guy
Jambo (not in speech-bubble): You've got homework over summer-break, right?
Miura: I didn't mention you, but I made sure to write about the fireworks
Ena: I wrote about it, too, but I mentioned you, Jambo-san.
Jambo: You're a good person, Ena-chan
Ena: It's much easier to write when there are events like that, isn't it?
Miura: But you've got it easy, Ena. You get to go on trips and visit relatives / So you've got a lot to write about. / But I'm never taken anywere during my summerbreak / so I've got next to nothing to write about.

Page 23

Jambo: You don't go anywhere?
Miura: Nope, since my father's busy during summer
Jambo-imagined Miura: Dad! Let's go on a trip somewhere!
Jambo-imagined Miura (no in speech-bubble): Let's go to Magical Land!
Jambo imagined Miura's dad: Impossible! I don't have time for such silly things!
SFX: Pon! / Gyo

Page 24

Jambo: All right! Let's go and have some fun tomorrow! / I'll take you with me on an adventure!
Miura: Eh?
Jambo: The sea!? / The mountains!? / I will make you some beautiful summer memories!
SFX: Clap clap!
Miura: No... / You don't have to...
Yotsuba: Haa!
Koiwai: Taa!

 

[Rowen]

Re: Translating Woe's

Again thank you both for your help. Emily that link is amazing, I'll be DLing that as part of my program package.

It's fun learning how to read Japanese, frustrating at times but fun.

 

[shrimpy]

Re: Translating Woe's

It'll always be frustrating until you understand everything.
And that day never comes (lol)

You just make due. In time, you'll get a sense for what things mean even though you can't explain them well...

 

[Espling]

Hoop Men Chapter 01

Man! long chapter, hope somebody's got energy enough to look this over. I've been experimenting with charactization and such, but I don't know if it worked out that well. This is my second translation, it took quite some time, but I'm quite happy with it.

I think my style of scripting should be generally self-explanatory. *If something is written like this, then its smaller text within a speech bubble*

I'm having a huge trouble with sfx. I'm not a native english speaker so I can't really decide what to translate them into when I understand them, but the bigger problem is that I don't understand more than half of the different ones. There are also som writings of words and slang I can't find in Jishos, which worries me. Any advice would be helpful!

EDIT: Almost forgot! You kind find RAWs of it here on MH: Hoop Men

Hoop Men ch01

Page 1

Top:
青春成長バスケ
新連載！
The spring-time of youth, the growth to adulthood and basketball
New series!

Side:
ごく普通の高校生にも転機となる日はやってくる！　佐藤雄歩には今日が”その日“だったー！
Even for the most normal of students, a day were everything changes awaits! For Satou Yuuho that day is today!

Girl:
ねえねえっ!　佐藤っ!
Hey hey! Satou!

Guy (not inside bubble):
んっ
Mm?

Girl:
あんたさあ　7組の小金井って子知ってる？
You know of a girl named Koganei from class 7?

Guy:
…ああ　知ってる知ってる
あの…あの子でしょ？　バスケ部のマネージャーの…
Yeah, I've heard of her
She's that girl, right? The manager for the basket club...

Thinking:
すげーカワイイって噂の
...described by rumours as shockingly cute

Girl:
そーそー　その小金井がさー
何か　あんたに話あるつってんだけど
放課後にヒマある？
Precisely, and that very Koganei
She has something to talk to you about, so...
Have you got some free time after school?

Bottom:
フープメン
Hoop Men

Page 2+3

Right:
”運命”は突然舞い降りる！
信じて戦え！迷わず翔べ!
新たな道、全力疾走新連載第二弾！
Destiny suddenly sweeps down!
Believe and fight! Jump without hesitation!
A new path, a full-strength dash opening of a new series
NOTE: Can't really figure out the bottom sentence.

lower
巻頭カラー　５８ページ!!
Opening in colour, 58 pages!

lowest
新連載!
New series!

text in middle of right page:
夢見たっていいじゃない!!
Having a dream is something wonderful!

Top left of right page:
第一話　救世主
Chapter 01 - The saviour

Middle of left page:
希望いっぱいの
青春を!!
Youth brimming with hope!

Lower left page:
フープメン
川口幸範
Hoop Men
Kawaguchi Yukinori

Page 4

Thinking:
”一日に二回告られた”とか
”タレントに間違われて　ファンに囲まれた”とか
数々の伝説を持つ　都立八柴高のアイドル　小金井　麻央
Getting confessed to, two times in one day
and getting mistaken for a celebrity and getting surrounded by fans
and bearer of innumerable legends, our school's idol; Koganei Mao

Girl (not in speech-bubble):
おいっ
Hey...

Thinking big：
が　放課後　俺に用!?
Wants to meet ME after school!?

Page 5

Satou
何の用？　時間ねーんだけど　俺
What did you want? Although I haven't really got time for this

Koganei
あ　ゴメン…　すぐ終わるから
あの…えっと…　…あたし…
ずっと前から　サトー君のこと…
Ah... I'm sorry, but it won't take a minute
Uhm... You know... ..I..
Since a long time ago, Satou-kun has always been...

satou
ー待てよ
やっぱ俺　時間ねーわ
Wait up.
Nope, it really seems like I don't have time for this

Koganei
ええっ…!?
Eeh...!?

Satou
オレの全ての恋人達に　別れを告げに行かなきゃ　ならなくなっちまった…
今　出会っちまったから
オレの運命の女性にな…
…サ…　サトー君　<３
I suddenly find a need to inform all my lovers of closure
Since I just happened to meet her, you know
My destined woman
...Sa... Satou-kun! <3

Others
やめろ　その寸劇
Stop those fantasies!

Page 6

Guy:
何が恋人達だ
ああー　くそおっ！　なんで　こんあショボい奴に小金井麻央が…
What the hell do you mean "your lovers"!?
Aw, shit! Why does this shabby whimp get Koganei Mao's attention?

SFX:
痛てえええてえてってってええ
*scream of indescribable pain*

Thinking　box
高校入って３ヶ月　早くも　恋の予感
Three months since I started high school and already; a premonition of love

Thinking:
小金井ちゃん…　どんあ子だろ？
間近で見た事ねーんだよな
江口が「すげーカワイイ」とか　ウワサしてんのは　よく聞くけど
……………
江口の女の好み　ダサイからなあ…
I wonder what kind of girl Koganei-chan is...
I can't remember ever seeing here from closeby
Eguchi says things like her being "shockingly cute" and I often hear rumors about her, but...
..............
Although Eguchi's taste in women isn't exactly sophisticated

Page 7

Koganei
あ
サトー君？
Ah
Satou-kun?

Thinking
ダサイとか思ってゴメン江口　あ　それと俺　恋しました
I'm sorry for calling you unsophisticated, Eguchi. Oh, that and I've fallen in love.

Page 8

Koganei
小金井です　初めましてっ
ごめんねー　急に呼び出して
Nice to meet you, I'm Koganei
I'm sorry for suddenly calling you out like this

Satou
ああはっ!　ぜ！　ぜんぜんヒマだよ
Ah! I've got nothing better to do anyway!

Guy:
超ビビってんじゃねーか　ヘタレヤローが…！
This incompetent bastard is scared shitless, isn't he!

Thinking
やべー！　と真ん中だっ!　こんな事あってイイのか
ッ落ち着け俺！　カッコよく受け応えするだ！
Oh shit, bullseye! Is this really okay?
I need to calm down! I need to be cool when talking with her!

Koganei
…なんだよねー
で　さあ　いきなりなんだけどー
佐藤くんってさあ…
Right
This might be a bit sudden
But Satou-kun...

Thinking
うーあっ!　いきなり！？　「佐藤くんってさあ…　好きな子とかいるの？」
Whoa!? Sudden!? "But Satou-kun... Is there a girl you've got feelings for?"

Page 9

Koganei
バスケって興味ない?
Do you like basketball?

SFX
ずずっ

Satou
えっ
Eh?

Koganei
バスケ部　入る気ない?
Wanna join the basketball club?

Page 10

Thinking
バスケ…　バスケって…　…バスケ？　…ハ!?
部活の勧誘!?
イヤイヤ　はっはっは　待て待て　雄歩
まだ話終わってねーから！
「て　ゆーか　バスケのスってスキのスだよね
佐藤君スキ」

Basket... With basketball you mean... Basketball? What!?
You want me to join a club?
No, no! Hahaha! Wait a second here Yuuho
She hasn't finished speaking yet!
"Or, rather, the 'su' in 'basuke' is the 'su' in 'suki'
Satou-kun suki"
NOTE: "basuke" is the japanese word for basketball. "suki" is japanese for "liking". The japanese are simply too whimpy to use "love"

Satou　（Not in bubble）
カモッ!!　カモッ!!
Maybe, maybe!

Koganei
まー　「興味あったら　はじめから　やってるっつーの!!」って　カンジだよねー
Well... If you're interested come on and join, or something like that.

Satou
みーん

Koganei
よかったら練習見てみてくんない?
If you don't mind, you could come and watch the training?

Background
みーん

Satou
あ　うん
Ah Sure

Background yelling
よっしゃああ
ふられたああ
Awesome!
Rejected!

Big-nose-guy
でもさ
なんで雄歩がバスケなの？
But, hey...
Why would they want Yuuho for basket?

Page 11

SFX
ドドドドド
ピイー
Dodododo!
Piii!

Guy1
うわあ…　走りっぱじゃん　超ハード…
やっぱ体育で　やんのとは違うな
Whoa, they're running like crazy. Looks super tough
They definitely don't want him for his athletic ability

Guy2
な
こんなの雄歩　ムリでしょ！
Right
This'd be impossibly for Yuuho

Page 12

Big-nose
雄歩
特にスポーツできるっつー　イメージもねーし…　身長フツーだし
…もう夏っていう時期に　わざわざ呼び出して　サカウトする理由がわかんねーよなあ
Yeah
I can't imagine him as especially good at sport and he's not tall either
...the summer season is already upon us, so I can't see any special reason for scouting him.

Inside Satou's mind -　Koganei
こいつら　バスケ部と見せかけて　あたしの家族
These people, who pretend to be the basketball club, are actually my family

Inside Satou's mind -　８
長男です
I'm the oldest son

Inside Satou's mind -　５
九男です
I'm the ninth son

Inside Satou's mind -　４
娘をよろしく
Please take care of my daughter

Inside Satou's mind -　Koganei
そして勧誘と　見せかけて　サトー君スキ
And I was just pretending to invite you. I like you.

Inside Satou's mind -　Satou
見せかけすぎでしょー
Isn't that a bit too much pretending?

Inside Satou's mind -　Backrground
わー
わー　おめでとー
Hurray!
Congratulations! Hurray!

NOTE: The logic in this fantasy is mind-boggling

Koganei
あ　キャプテン!!　サトー君!!
Ah! Captain! I've brought Satou-kun!

PAge 13

SFX
がばし
Squeeze!

Captain
おお！　待ってたぞおー　同志よっ！
俺　キャプテンの中西!!　よろしく!!
いやー佐藤くーん　ここに来たって事は　もお　入部ってする事だな!?　んん？
Oh! I've been waiting for you, comrade!
I'm the captain, Nakanishi! Good to meet ya!
Oh, since you've come here, that must mean you've decided to join the club, right?

Satou
あ　いや…
Uhm, well...

Captain
オーケー　がんばろう!
Okay! Let's do our best!

Koganei
今日は見学だけですよっ!　何そのテンション!?
He's just come to observe! What's with that excitement of yours!?

Satou thinks:
クッ…　うぜー　暑苦しー!!
Ugh... Noisy and sweaty!

Captain
何言ってんだ　そりゃテンション上がるでしょ!!　
救世主　来たんだぞ
What are ya talking 'bout? Of course I'm excited!
Our saviour has arrived, ya know!

Satou thinks
…救世主…？
Saviour...?

Page 14

Captain
うちは　ほとんど初心者だし　正直「勝てるチーム」にはなんねーかなって思ってたけど
すげー才能ある奴入ってくれてホントよかった!!
To be honest, we're mostly beginners, so I didn't think we could become a "winning team".
That's why having this extremely talented guy join us is so great!

Satou thinks:
…才能？　オレに！？
Talented? He's talking about ME!?

Captain:
今年は都大会ベスト８くれーまで　いったりしてな！
This year we might get into the best eight, ya know!

Koganei
もっとですよ！　もっと！！
We can take it further! Much further!

Captain
もっとか！　優勝しちゃう！？
Further, ya say? Win it all, you say?

Satou thinks:
そんなに！？
Really!?

オレって弱小チームを　優勝させちゃうくれーの才能秘めてんの！？　マジかよ!?
I've got a hidden talent that would be enough to bring this puny team victory!? Are they serious!?
まあ　確かにオレ　バスケの事　知らねーし…　やってる奴から見たら　何かスゲーとこ　あんのかも…
Well... I don't know anything about basketball, so if you look at it from a players perspective, maybe I've got some great talent hidden...

自分にスポーツの才能があるなんて　考えもしなかった
I've never even thought that I might have some great talent for sports before
エ　何？　オレってトップアスリートの卵なわけ？　イチローとか北島みてーになんの!?
Eh? what? I'm like a top athlete gone without harnessing? Like Ichirou and Kitajima!?
NOTE: He's talking about Suzuki Ichiro, a famous baseball player, and Kitajima Kousuke, swimmer, olympic medalist and world record holder for both 100- and 200-meter breaststroke.
「全国大会に連れてって<３」みてーな事　言われちゃったりとか…
Saying things like "take me with you to the nationals <3"...

SFX
ドクン…　
dokun

Page 15

On magazine
世界へ
佐藤雄
Towards the world
Satou Yuu...

Magazine2
日本エース
佐藤の力
ジャパン金！
The Japanese ace
Satou's power
Japanese gold!

Satou thikns outside bubble
イイじゃん
I could live with that...

Satou
は…
そこまで言ってくれるんなら…　やってみよーかな…　バスケ…
てか　やるっス!!　オレ　バスケ部の救世主として…
ん？
Heh...
Saying all that makes me wanna try, basketball...
More like... I'll do it! I, as the saviour of the basketball club...
Hm?

Page 16

SFX
ドドッ
Dodoh

Page 17

Person
おおーっ　スゲエっ!!
Whoa, awesome!

Satou thinks
うお…っ　外人…？
Wha... A foreigner...?

Satou
…はは
…えっ...？　留学生…すか？
...haha
Eh? Is that... an exchange student?

Captain
あ？　はっはっは　何言ってんだよ
アイツが　そうだ　＊うわさの＊
Hm? Hahaha! What're ya talking 'bout?
That's him! *the rumoured one*

Satou
そう…って
With "him" you mean...?

Captain
何そのリアクション　もしか小金井から何も聞いてねーの?
おおい！　小金井よおー！
What's up with that reaction!? Didn't ya hear from Koganei?
Oy! Koganei!

Satou
？

Koganei
ーあ
まだ　ちゃんとは説明してないです
Oh
I haven't properly explained everything yet.

Satou
？

Captain
説明せずに誘ったの?　おおーい！　たーのーむーよー
Ya brought him here without explaining? Come on! I'm begging you!

Koganei
や　何かビミョーに　言いにくいじゃないすか!!
あ！　サトー君　ゴメンね　えっと…
But it's not that easy a thing to bring up!
Ah! Satou-kun, I'm sorry, but... Well...

Satou
？

Page 18

Koganei
彼は（バスケの本場）アメリカから昨日　転向してきた
ジョシュア·久慈·グリフィンJr.　うちらと同じ　一年生
He transferred yesterday from the home of basketball, America
Joshua Kuji Griffin Jr. A first year, like us.

Captain
バスケ部の救世主!!!
The saviour of the basketball club!

Satou thinks:
…あっ
...ah

Page 19

Satou thinks
なんでこの半端な時期に
オレみたいな奴が突然　バスケ部に誘われたのか
The reason why somebody would suddenly,
At an odd time like this, invite a guy like me inte the basketball club

Josh
So YOU are Mr.Sato!?
Ah! I've been wanting to meet you!

Satou thinks:
その理由が　今　わかった
I now know the reason.

Page 20

Old man：
おとなりに引っ越して来た　ジェームスさんだ
This is our new neighbour, James-san

Satou thinks
オレが３歳くらいの時だっけ
It was around the time I was three
その日一緒にゲームやったのはおぼえてる
I remember that we played some games together
小３の時　あいつが　アメリカに帰るまで　よく遊んでたなー
From that time on until he went back to america, we played together all the time
…てか　まあ　なんで　こんなハナシをするかっていうと
...and, well... If'you're wondering why I'm talking about this
オレがバスケ部に誘われたのって　隠れた才能が　どうこうとかじゃなく
The reason why I was invited to the basketball club wasn't because of some hidden talent

Page 21

Satou in english:
hey... I'm Yuuho Satou. How's it going?

Big text:
ヒーローの通訳として　だ
It's because they want me to be the hero's interpreter

Page 22

Josh in english
Oh snap!
Yes! At last, somebody who understands English!

Satou in english
Well, I just know some basics

Background
おおー
Oooh

Guy to left:
なるほど　こーゆー事か…
I see, so that's why...

Captain
ジョシュには昨日から早速　練習に参加してもらって　相当　上手ーって事はわかったんだけど…
コミュニケーションがとれなくて困ったのな
Josh joined us immediately yesterday and we understood that he's got some serious skills,
but we got some problems with communication, ya know

したら小金井が佐藤のウワサ聞いてきてさ
じゃ　誘ってみっか!!って話になったんだよ!!
Then Koganei heard some rumours about ya
and I was like "Get him to join!", ya know

でも　すげーな！　ホントフツーに会話してんじゃん！
どお？　まじで通訳やってくんねーかな？
But it's really cool, ya know! Ya can talk to him normally and all!
How 'bout it? Would ya like to become an interpreter for us?

Satou thinks
通訳…　かあ…　うーん…　イチローどころか　それって…　こいつのサポート役…
An interpreter...? Hm... Far from Ichirou; more like this guy's supporter...

Page 23

Koganei
スゴい　なんでしゃべれんの!?　超尊敬するっ
Wow! Where did you learn to speak like that!? I'm really impressed
ヤバい　サトー君　なんかカッコイイ
But, really! Satou-kun's kind of cool.
あーもお　同じ学校にジョシュとサトー君いるのって　ゼッタイ運命だよおー
This is too much... That Josh and Satou-kun are in the same school can only be a work of destiny!
お願い！　バスケ部　入って！
Please! Join the basketball club!
あ　てか　ゴメンね　通訳のコト言わずに誘っちゃって…
Oh, and sorry for not telling you any about this before taking you here.

Satou
ぜんぜん　いいよ
Absolutely no problem

SFX
カッ
Kah!

Big-nose
帰る?
Shall we go home?

Page 24

Satou
佐藤雄歩　バスケ部　入部します！　ジョシュの通訳まかしてください！
みんなで　上　目指しましょう！
I, Satou Yuuho, hereby joins the basketball club. Please leave interpreting for Josh to me!
Let us all aim for the top!

Background
おーっ
Yeah!

SFX:
メーシ　or　メーン
*gesture beckoning Josh to come*
ぐいっ
*Violent pulling*
Satou
っしゃあ　ガンガン来いジョーシュっ　＊何か　言え＊
ぐうえっ
All right! Let's do this, Josh! *Say something!*
Gueeh!

Captain
うしっ　じゃあ
脱げ
Right. Well...
STRIP

Satou
は！？
What!?

Page 25

Think-box
バスケは5人対5人でやる　スポーツらしく
Basket ball is played between two teams of five members each

Captain
いやーよかった！　佐藤入ってちょーど（部員）１０人！
久し振りに5対5でゲームできっぞ
Oh, it's great! Now that Satou's joined we've got ten members!
At last we can play five versus five games again

Background
おー
Yeah!

Think-box
つーことで　ルールもよく知らねーのに試合に出ろ事に
Even though I barely know the rules I have to play in a game?

Satou
イヤ　俺　ムリッスよ！　ちゃんとやった事ねーし
No, it'd be impossible for me, I've played a proper game before!

Background
ぐああー
Guaa!

Team-mates　Background
ははは
Ha ha ha!

Captain
いーや　別に　人数合わせだし！
期待しとらんわ！
Take it easy, we just need the numbers to match up
I'm not expecting anything special from you

Think-box
そこまでハッキリ言われると
何か　ちょっとだけカチンときたりもするけど
If he says it so bluntly
then even I'm a bit wounded

Background
よろしくお願いします
しあーす


Think-box
まあ　仕方ない
Oh, well. There's no helping it

Page 26

SFX
キュツ
ドドッ
kyu
Do do

PAge 27

Think-box
俺　こんなコトできねーし
I really suck at things like this

Captain
おあー!!?
Holy shit!?

Satou thinks
スッゲッ...！　何　今の!?　格好良ー！
Whoa! What the hell was that now? Way cool

Think box
この先　できるよーになるとも思えねー
Before, I never thought I'd become any good

Page 28

Satou
ひゅうっ！　ナイッシュウ！
Whooo! Nice shot!

Background
ははは…
Ha ha ha!

Satou thinks
冷静に考えりゃ　俺がスポーツで主役になるとかないわな
勘違いとはいえ　さっき一瞬　夢見ちゃったよ
ははは
Thinking about it clamly, that I'd become an important player
Even though it was a mistake, for a moment there, I had a dream
Hahaha!

Ouside bubble
ない　ない
Impossible, impossible

Josh in english
Shit!

Satou
んっ
hm?

Page 29

Josh in english
おい！
1年チームのみんあ　なぜパスを受けに　来ないんだ!?
Ey!
All of you first years, why the hell won't come to recieve my passes!?

ディフェンスもそう！　ただ　つったってるだけだ！
やる気がないのか！？
The same goes for defence! You're just standing there!
Don't you wanna play!?

Satou thinks
うお…　怒ってる
1年チームがやる気ねーから？
Aw, crap. He's angry.
Because this team of first years don't want to play?

Koganei
.………………

Captain
おーう　どーしたーあ？！
佐藤！　出番じゃん　ちょっとジョシュとハナシしてみ
Hey, What's wrong!?
Satou! It's your time to shine, try speaking to Josh for bit.

Satou
あ…　ハイ
Eh... Yes!

Page 30

Satou in english
あ…　はっはっは　ジョシュ…　どうしたんだよ？
Ah... Hahaha! Josh... What's wrong, man?

Josh in englih
！！
おお！！　雄歩！！
!!
Oh! Yuuho!

みんなに伝えてくれ！　「闘志なき者はコートに立つ資格はない!!　今すぐ体育館から出ていけ」と!!
Tell the bastards who don't want to play that they don't deserve to be on the court and should get the fuck out of here, now!

Satou thinks
伝える…　って…　はっはっは
”体育館から出てけって言ってます<３“　言えるか！
Tell them... That...? Ha ha ha!
"He'd like you to get the fuck out <3" Like I could ever say that!

先輩も　いんのに!!　何か　やたら　言い方キツイし...　文化の違いか？　参ったな…
Even though our sempais are here! The way he says it is too strong. A cultural difference? I'm done for...

Page 31

Josh in english
あんな　ワンパターンな攻めに何回やられるつもり…
How many times have you planned to get beaten by a repetetive offense like that?

Satou
あーもお
Aw crap.
In english:　
待て待て待て待てっ！
Wait wait wait wait!
落ち着けって!!
I'm telling you to calm down!
確かに1年チームって　おめー以外　あんま活躍してねーけどさ
I know the other first years aren't very active compared to you
でも今んとこ同点じゃん!
But we're tied, you know!
ジョシュ一人で上級生チームに喰らいついてるって事
You're actually taking care of uor upper-classmen's team by yourself!

Josh in english
ダメなんだよ　それじゃあっ!
IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY

Page 32

Josh in english
バスケは一人でやるものじゃない！
Basketball is no one man show!

Page 33

Satou thinks
ハア？　別に点取れてるし…　いーじゃねーか…
Huh? But you're still scoring, so what's the problem?

Josh in english
君らにコートに立つ資格はない！
You bastards have no right to stand on this court!

Satou thinks
おい！
ケンカ売ってんのかよ　コイツ！
部活くれーで　そんな熱くなんなくても…
Hey!
Is he trying to get into a fight!?
He doesn't have to get that worked up over a club activity...

To captains right outside bubble
おう？
Ey?

To Satou's right outside bubble
あは
Ehe

Captain
おい！　何！？　どしたんだよジョシュはあ？
Oy! What's up with Josh?

Satou
ちょっ...　待っ…
Jus... Wai...

イヤ　何か　……
「つーか　バスケやっぱ楽しー！　テンション上がるわー！」
って
上げすぎだってオメー！　＊はっはっは＊
No, like
"Basketball is really awesome! I'm getting all excited!"
he says
You're getting way too excited, old chap! *hahaha!*

To left of captain outside bubble
えっ
Eh?

Captain
ウッソッ…えっ　この感じって　そーなの？　何か怒ってねーか？
………
イヤ　やっぱ　怒ってるっしょ　コレ！　なあ!!
You're lying, right? Is that really excitement? Isn't he a bit angry?
........
Nope, he's definitely angry! Isn't he!?

Josh in englsih
触るな!!
Don't touch me!

Above falling Satou
ぐあっ!
Guah!

Right of falling satou
どっか
Smack!

Satou thinks:
クッ...!　俺　可哀想くねー？　＊気つかったのに！＊
Kuh...! Ain't I pitiable? *I was even being considerate!*

Satou
あ!!
Ah!

Josh in english
ヘイ!
Hey!

Page 34

Josh in english
オイ　きみ！　相手よりデカいのに　なんで体張らない？
なあ！
相手とぶつかり合うのを恐れてるのか？！
え？！
Hey, you! You're shorter than your opponents, but why're you still not straightening up!?
Hear me!?
Afraid of bumping into opponents are you!?
Ey!?

Satou thinks
ああー！　もお！
クッソッ！
Aw...
Damn it all!

PAge 35

Josh in English
コート上でパスを受けに来ないって事は存在しないのと同じ！
Not advancing up the court to recieve my passes are the same as not existing!

Satou
えーと　あの…
「1年チーム上手ーんだから　積極的にパスもらいに来るとイイかも」
…って！
Uhm, well...
"First year's team is skilled so be assertive and come up to recieve my passes, please"
He says!

Think box
通訳ってこーゆー仕事しなきゃなんねーのか…　意外に大変かも…
So I'll have to interpret like this, eh? This might be harder than expected...

Satou in english
今　訳してっから　落ち着け！
I'm tranlsating right now, so calm down!

Think box
…イヤ　でも小金井ちゃんのためだと思って…！
I'll just have to do this for Koganei-chan's sake...!

Page 36

Think box
何とか　メモねーよーにやわらかく訳してくしかねーか
I guess I'll have to interpret wihtout memos, but still soften it, huh?

Josh　in english
You, number five, that move you did during practice was pretty good

Satou
5番…　えっと…　井手くん？　…は　
「さっきの練習で見せた動きすげーよかった」
「あーゆーカンジでガンガン　ゴール向かってみてくれ」ってさ
Number five, uhm... Ide-kun? ...heh
"The moves you showed us earlier during practice were awesome!"
"Try to utilize them when advancing towards goal" he says

Ide
あ…うん
Ah... Okay

Satou
で　今井くん
…は「相手よかデケーんだから　体張ってビビらずに…えっと…　何？　ポスト?
And Imai-kun.
...He says that "Since your opponents are taller you'll have to straighten and... What's that? Posta?

Imai
ポストアップ？
Post up?

Satou
あ　そうそう　で　ディフェンスは…
Ah, that's right. And about defense...
[further is unreadable, probably intended as such]

Think box
こんな感じで　あたりさわりなく…
Like this, without being offensive...

PAge 37

Think Box
伝えた　だけなのに
Even though I just told them...

Guy:
おお！イっちゃん　初ゴール!
Ooh! Icchan, first goal!

Page 38

Glasses boy
あ…さ　サトー君
やったよっ！
Ah... Sa-Satou-kun,
I did it!

Satou
え？　いやいやいや
オレ　通訳しただけだし
Eh? No no no no
I just interpreted

Outside bubble
ははは
Hahaha!

Koganei
..…

SFX
ダッ
Dah!

Page 39

Someone
おおー！　連続っ!
Oooh! You're on a roll!


Satou thinks
何か　急に…
やりゃ　できんじゃん　ちょっとアドバイスしただけなのに
Suddenly...
They can do it, even though I just gave them som advice

Satou
なになに？調子出てきた?
What's up? Gotten into the mood?

Glasses boy
あ　いや！
.….…　スゴいんだよ！
ジョシュのパス！
Ah, no!
......... It's fantastic!
Josh's passing!

SFX
ダンッ
Dan!

Satou
パス?
His passing?

Page 40

SFX
キュキュッ
Swish swish

Glasses boy
ディフェンス振り切って…
You shake of the defense...

SFX
キュッ

Glasses boy
「今　パスくれ！」って思った瞬間
「手元にボールがある」って感じでさ！
The moment you think that you want the ball
You suddenly find it in your hands

…魔法みたいに
As if by magic!

Page 41

Somebody
おおーっ!　ナイス今井！
Whoa! Nice, Imai!

Glasses boy
見た!?　今の！　ホント魔法だよ　魔法のパス！
ジョシュが本気出し始めた…
You saw that, just now? It's really magical. A magical pass!
Josh has finally gotten serious

Satou outside bubble
へー
魔法ねえ
Really?
Magic, you say?

Koganei
ジョシュがパスさばき始めたのは
一年チームが変わったからだよ
The reason he started deciding on passes
was bacause his team changed

一年チームってみんあ初心者で経験浅いしー
試合の中で　どう動いていいか　戸惑って　足　止まってたじゃん？
All the first years are beginners with no real experience
Even during the match they confused about how to move and just stopped moving

だから　ジョシュは指示出してたんだけど　伝わんなくて…　
イライラしちゃって…
Therefore Josh tried to give instructions, but they didn't understand...
He wound up making them nervous


逆に　みんなからしたら
「なんで怒ってんの？　オレのせい？　ヘタに動けねーぞ」ってなっちゃうわけじゃん？
ビビって　もっと　足止まっちゃってて...　よーするにさあ
It had an opposite effect
"Why's he angry? Is it my fault? I must really suck!" becomes their impression, you know?
They just became more afraid to move, and it wound up like before.

Page 42

Koganei
コミュニケーションが　取れないって事は　チームの中に悪循環を生んでたんだよ
でも　サトー君がジョシュの指示　伝えてくれたから
If you cant communicate, a vicious circle of misunderstanding starts
but thanks to Satou-kun, Josh could get his directions properly delivered

SFX
ドドドドドドドドドドド
Dododododododo

Koganei
そーだよっ！　サトー君の通訳が
ゲームの流れ　変えたんだって！
Precisely! It's thanks to your interpretation
that the flow of the game has changed!

PAge 43-44

Koganei
サトー君が一年チームを繋げてくれた事で
まんなの動きがよくなったから
Satou-kun, you've brought the team together
and so, everybodys movement has improved

ジョシュの魔法のパスが引き出されて…
それが　さらに　チームの力を引き出してんだって！！
To bring out Josh's magical pass
is also to bring out the full ability of the team!

あ!　ホラ　また！
Ah, look! Again!

SFX
ビッ
Bi!

Satou thinks
ヒーローの「魔法のパス/真の力」を　オレ…　が…？
This hero's "magical pass"... I brought it out?

Page 45

Captain thinks
こいつらジョシュに活かされて　別人見てーだ！
ジョシュの「パッサー」としての本領発揮か…！
These guys gave new life to Josh, they're like a completely different team!
Is this a display of Josh's specialty as a passer!?

Captain
…おうしゃ！
Come on!

SFX
ダンッ
Dan
キキュユッ
Swoosh
ダンッ
dan
キュッ
swish
キュッ
swish

Satou thinks
点差　開き始めた…
先輩達も何か　空気変わってっし…　本気だ！
The difference in points is widening...
Air of our sempais has changed, too... They're serious!

それって全部…
And that's all...

Koganei in satou's mind
サトー君の指示のおかげだよ
Thanks to Sayou-kun directions

Page 46

SFX
バガッ
Bagah!

Josh in english
よし　取った!
速攻だっ！
みんな
Yes! Got it!
Break-through!
Everybody

Satou
みんな　走れえっ！
Everybody, go for it!

SFX
どどどどどどど
dododododo

Guy to left
……おお…　リーダー気取りだ　ドシロートのくせに
Aah... He's got pretentions of leadership, even though he's just another amateur.

Guy to right
超高校級帰宅部
Hyper High School Return-to-class Club

Think box
ーって後で　散々　言われたさ
確かに俺は素人だし　スポーツとは縁遠い　生活　送ってきたさ
I was told repeatedly afterwards
Certainly I'm an amateur, I've lived a lived a life with little relation to sports

PAge

Page 47-48

Think box
でも　だからこそ　そのパスには
本当に魔法が　かかっているように思えた
オレがこんな
真剣勝負の
But that's exactly why I could believe
That there really was magic in that pass
I never thought that I
In this intense game

Page 49-50

Big text to right
先頭を走ってるなんて
would run to very the front

Satou thinks
オレがスポーツで　主役になるなんて…
バスケは一人でやるものじゃない
ジョシュのパスがチームの力を引き出してる
I never thought that I'd play a leading role in any sport,
but basketball is no "one man show"
and Josh's pass brings out the true strengths of the team

Page　51-52

Right
オレが引き出したジョシュの魔法のパスが
The magical pass I brought forth from Josh

Left
今度はオレに力を
This time, I want it to bring forth my strength

Page 53

Think box
でも　まあ
But, well...

SFX
ガッ
Gah!

Satou outside bubble
んっ
Ugh!

Somebody
うわあ！？
Whoa!?

大丈夫か!?
Are you okay!?

Outside bubble
おおっ
Whoa
Think box
とりあえず　現実は　こんなもんだけど
For the time being, things are like this

Captain
いっやー
やられたな！
Aw crap!
We really got beaten!

Koganei thinks
ジョシュとサトー君の力で
一年チームが先輩達に勝っちゃった！
Through Josh's and Satou-kuns ability
The first years won over our sempais!

PAge 54

Somebody
救世主だよ!
二人とも！
You two are
our saviours!

Outside bubble
わっ
Wha!

Guy
いや　コケたし！　活躍とかしてねーから！
ホメんな！　アホがまた調子こくから！
Nope, he's mad! He's never been active in his life before!
Don't praise him! It'll go to his head again!

Big-nose dude
あー…　目に浮かぶ…　＊えんーっ＊
Ah... His eyes are glimmering... *Mmm...*

Guy
.…あれっ？
What?

Page 55-56

SFX
ドクン
Dokun!

Satou outside bubble
…何だ　これ
... What is this?

SFX
ドッ
Doh!

Satou outside bubble
身体が震える
My body is vibrating

SFX
ドクッ
Doku!

Satou outside bubble
何　この気持ち
What is this feeling?

Page 57

Guy (Captain?)
オイ　佐藤!　聞いてっか？
Hey, Satou! Ya listening?

Satou outside bubble
はっ
Ha?

Guy
どしたよ　さっきからボーっとして
やっぱ　さっき　頭とか打ってた？
What's wrong with ya? Ya've been spacing out for awhile
As I thought, you got a hit to the head, right?

Satou
あ　いや！　全然大丈夫っス　ーで何すか？
Ah, no! I'm completely fine! What's up?

Guy
だから　通訳ん時　バスケ用語とか必要だろーから
オレが持ってるバスケの教則本　貸してやるって！
Because, when interpreting, ya might need to know some baskeball terminology
So I thought I'd lend ya this basket manual

Satou
マジすか？　スゲー　助かるっす
Seriously!? Wow, this'll come in handy

っし！　通訳としてバスケ部ガンガン　サポートしますんで！
Right! I'll join the basketball club as an interpreter and as such I'll support you whole-heartedly!

SFX
ドン!!
Don!

Think box
とか言いながら
現在アタマん中には
I might have said
but in my head

Page 58

SFX
ワアアアアア
Waaaaaaa!

Satou thinking outside bubble
ーなイメージのみ
The image was quite different

Mind-koganei
本当のエースはサトー君だったのね<３
The real ace was you all along, Satou-kun <3

SFX
ふっ
Heh!

Josh in english
ヘイ　ユーホ　最後のアレ　外すようじゃダメだよ
Hey, Yuuho, missing like you did in the end just won't do.

Satou
エ　何？
「雄歩はセンスある」って？
やめろよ　照れっし!!
Eh, what?
"I have a good sense for basketball"?
Stop it; I'm shy!

Text on side
凡人ですが、夢へがんばります！

Bottom
フープメン　第一話　/ おわり
次号、雄歩の日常にいろんな変化が!!
センターカラー大増27ページ!!　2話目も読んでね!!
Hoop Men Chapter One / End
NOTE: My Jisho's battery died. I'll do this part when I revise it next time

 

[boke]

Re: First translation done, need som criticism

Overall, nicely done. Some comments:

Spoiler

Page 5

Yotsuba: Enough! (もー!!) / Dad, next is paper! （とーちゃん　つぎはパー！）/ Choose paper next! (つぎはパーだして！）

Dad, choose paper!

Yotsuba: Dad is paper! Dad is paper! (とーちゃんパー!　とーちゃんパー!）/

Dad! Paper! Dad! Paaaper!

Page 6

Yotsuba: Cunning! (ずるいー！）/ You cunning meanie! (ずーるーいーなー!!）

Yotsuba: Cheater! You cheaaaater! ['You cheating meanie' has nice flavor too]

Yotsuba: These adults! (おとなは！) / Always these adults! (まったくおとなは！）

Yotsuba: Adults! I can't believe you adults! [not literal, but the meaning works here]

Page 8

Koiwai: Okay, I'll eat them all (よしじゃあとーちゃんが全部食べて）/ and I'll tell Yotsuba which one was the tastiest (一番おしかったのをよつばにやろう）

Koiwai: Okay, dad will eat them all...

Page 10

Jambo: Things you could do to make it live longer would be... (長生きさせるには…　そうだなあ　よつばにできるのは

What would make them last longer... Yeah, things that Yotsuba would be capable of doing /

Page 12

Yotsuba: Right / Rigid special training... / We don't hit them like normal / We hit them hard!
NOTE: Don't know if this is a good translation, since I didn't really get the original japanese that well. Went like this: ブンってするんじゃなくて　パンってやるんだよ

Yotsuba: Right / Special hard training... / We don't hit them like "doink", we hit them like "bam"!

[no more transcription so no more comments ]

 

[Espling]

Re: First translation done, need som criticism

Thanks for taking your time. It was generally the things I thought were sketchy that were noted upon, so at least I'm going the right direction.

 

[lord0din69]

Re: Need help with English-to-Romaji phrases

Thread title is misleading. Romanji isn't the problem. It's more of translating it to Japanese.
Once you have someone to translate it to Japanese you can just simply write out the romanji part of it.

Like the following (romanji - hiragana - katakana)
ga - が - ガ

Also inform the translator to write out the hiragana for the kanji to make it easier for you.

Like fire kanji is 火
the reading of it is 'hi' which is ひ is hiragana.
Obviously combination and usage of the kanji can give you an entirely different reading, which is why I recommend you to ask the translator to write it out all in hiragana.

 

[Rowen]

Recommendations

What are some recommended manga for a beginning translator to practice with? I've attempted several and they have been very difficult at best. Either I can't find the kana (or one that looks close enough to what I see in the book) or the programs I have give me nothing when I que up the words I've transcribed.

So whats a good, easy to translate Manga?


I've attempted Peach Girl, there seems to be a LOT of Katakana and Kanji in that one.

Bamboo Blade doesn't have Furigana which really cripples me right now.

Thanks in advance for any recommendations you give.

Rowen

 

[Ju-da-su]

Re: Recommendations

Well . . . I don't know if I can give any good suggestion for which manga is the easiest out there to translate, but I would say just start from something you like first, like shounen or shoujo (since usually seinen and josei tend to have no furigana . . . -_-")

Tbh, I've just look through Peach Girl, and I don't think that's hard. You're bound to encounter the similar level of those two in other manga anyway (I mean, just IMO . . . >_<") So, I'd say, if you like that manga, you might as well start from that one.

Sorry if it's not a really good suggestion. Basically, I just want to say that if you want to start translating something, it would be best to do something that you like and possibly learn from it rather than asking for the easiest one you can translate.

 

[boke]

Re: Recommendations

Think about trying something that already has a translation available here so you can check your work. It's a great way to learn and pick up common expressions. Peach girl may not be that hard grammatically, but there probably are a lot of slang expressions that don't show up in dictionaries. But whatever you do, have fun with it.

 

[Rowen]

Re: Recommendations

Peach Girl isn't a Manga I'm familiar with honestly. It just caught my eye.

Let me give an example of what I mean by not finding certain kana by using Peach Girl as the example.

Example one: Peach Girl Vol 1. Page 8 - The very first panel, the very first kana.....I could find one with those accent marks in my Hiragana and Katakana list anywhere.

Example two: peach Girl Vol 1. Page 9 - Very top of the page, the words in the quotes. Couldn't find some of those Kana either.

I'm not sure if the style of lettering is just different and it makes them difficult to find or if there Kanji (which I don't believe they are).

The main reason I am attempting to do this.....because I'm not really at a translation level is to learn the Kana. My efforts are paying off because I can recognize some Hiragana by site now and one or two Kanji. I seem to learn better as a Visual, Hand-on learner.

Thanks again for any help. You all have been great in giving me guidance in this area. Many thanks to those who have taken the time to assist.

 

[Ju-da-su]

Re: Recommendations

Example one: Peach Girl Vol 1. Page 8 - The very first panel, the very first kana.....I could find one with those accent marks in my Hiragana and Katakana list anywhere.

That one is "za" (katakana)

http://henagaijin.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/hiragana_katakana_list.gif

Look at the Daku-on-Katakana 2nd row first kana.

Example two: peach Girl Vol 1. Page 9 - Very top of the page, the words in the quotes. Couldn't find some of those Kana either.

"Kitsusou" "Namaiki" "Asonderu"

I'm not sure if the style of lettering is just different and it makes them difficult to find or if there Kanji (which I don't believe they are).

The main reason I am attempting to do this.....because I'm not really at a translation level is to learn the Kana. My efforts are paying off because I can recognize some Hiragana by site now and one or two Kanji. I seem to learn better as a Visual, Hand-on learner.

Thanks again for any help. You all have been great in giving me guidance in this area. Many thanks to those who have taken the time to assist.

I actually would say . . . you should try to at least be able to recognize all the katakana first before attempting to translate any manga. The easiest manga possible . . . ever, is probably Doraemon (if what I heard about it is true), but I bet that even in that manga, you'll find the katakana anyway . . . >_>" (but again, I never read Doraemon. What I've heard about it is that since it's the manga written for kindergarten - elementary students, it only has some very basic kanji, and all the rest are easy kana words . . . >_<")

 

[eni]

Re: Recommendations

I agree with Ju. Before you start translating a manga you should at the very least be able to read the Kana and have a basic vocabulary. But I understand what you try to do, I also learn better while figuring out text - yet, it's very frustating with manga because of the huge amount of symbols to learn.

Let me give you a quick guide to Kana because I had to learn them within three days for my Japanese intensive course. I tell you how I felt the most comfortable to learn them quickly and still intensive enough to keep them in the long round but feel free to jump over everything you feel uncomfortable with:

• First, go to the free material section at mlcjapanese and download:
  * HIRAGANA and KATAKANA Work Sheets (674 kb)
  * HIRAGANA and KATAKANA Work Sheets - Answers (PDF, 717 kb)
  I own several expensive Japanese Learning books and none of them can compete with these worksheets to learn Kana. They're perfect.
• Additionally, if you want more 'practise by writing the Kana' you can also download the worksheets at Kanji-Step which would be the Hiragana Steps and the Katakana Steps (click on 'practise' to get the printable sheets). I learn best by actually writing them down, so these helped me greatly.
• Secondly, go to nihongo-dekimasu and download:
  * Japanese Children Books Part 1 and Part 2 (PDF's)
  These are short books telling Japanese Folklore for young children entirely written in Hiragana. The stories are very simply with grammar and wording being on kindergarten or early elementary school level and with a little basic vocabulary and a dictionary understandable for beginners.
• At last, get yourself a free Kana flashcard software. Personally I used Kanatest but I'm a Linux user and I assume that you work with Windows which can't install this freeware. Though, there are plenty of other solutions, e.g. a online Kana trainer such as Real Kana.

That's all. Now simply take the worksheets and start with the first Hiragana line (a, i, u, e, o) by filling out the sheets. Speak the Kana while writing them, it helps the brain.

Then take a little break and use the Kana flashcards. Only select the line you learned and repeat it randomly till you're able to go through it without mistakes.

Now follows the second line (ka, ki, ku, ke, ko). Again use the worksheet and the flashcards but include the first line too during the drill! Again repeat it till you're free of mistakes... and so on. Step by step learn a new line and always keep the previous ones when doing the flashcard drill. Depending on your learning pace, this will take a mere day up till a week. The more slowly you do it and the more often you repeat the better it will stay in your brain but a speedy (one afternoon) is possible too.

Concentrate on the Hiragana first and when you're through with them try reading the children books with the help of an dictionary. You will be surprised how much Hiragana you recognize and - how much not, despite the good drill results. Reading text is very different after all. You don't need to understand much, correctly reading and collecting up some basic vocabulary is the main focus.

After a few days of working with the sheets and the children's books you'll become pretty secure with Hiragana and lots of simple vocabulary will already come along. Then simply repeat the same with Katakana just don't forget about reading Hiragana regularly (it takes a while till it sinks safely into the brain).

You may find Katakana-rich texts online or just try the first manga. Teenage manga such as Naruto often use Katakana for names, sound effects and 'powers' while the normal text is usually Hiragana or Kanji with little Hiragana beside them (Furigana). Since you're already familiar will Hiragana and some vocabulary you'll feel safe soon and won't get tired so much on figuring out stuff.

That's also the point where you should start on reading grammar lessons and look up kanji. The above links (mlcjapanese, kanjistep, nihongo-dekimasu) provide you with all you need. Browse them a little or google for other websites. Learning Japanese has become really popular and naturally plenty of websites popped up. Just find the one that fits your learning habits best.

 

[Rowen]

Re: Recommendations

Thanks Ju-Da-Su, I really only attempting to convert the Kana and Kanji into romonji (?spelling) and If I understand the meaning after that.....well cool.

Like I said its really only for practice in learning Hiragana and Katakana.....in recognition skills. I find that by converting them I learn them faster. <shrugs> I'm weird like that lol.

I'll try the one you suggested. Again, thanks for the help. Also, thanks for translating those words for me.....Ill look at them and see where I went wrong with finding the Kana on the list. Ill also book mark the site you linked. The list is pretty good.....I was using Tae Kim's Japanese guide and could not find 'Za' in there at all.

Edit: Sorry Eni didn't see your post before I added this message....let me read yours now.

---

First of all.....WOW! Thank you all for the wonderful posts. Eni I would like to thank you for those great links as well. I'll take your advice and start studying like you suggested. Its worth a shot and I'm motivated enough that I'll practically do anything I can to learn Japanese in all its forms.

I get a bit gung-ho when I am really excited about something and its easy to try and do to much at one time. Its a big help when you have those around you that will 'ground' you so to speak.

I'll keep you all upto date as I progress.

Just on a side note. Ju......that first word you translated on page 9 for me....I had it translated as Sutsugoo. Man was I way off......thanks for helping.

<bows> Domo Arigato Gozaimasu

---

So far so good. I've learned from a - so.......its interesting to do it they way you suggested Eni. Seems to work pretty well too. I'll keep it up and hopefully soon I'll know them well enough to tackle those children's books.

 

[sagdansola]

[Seinen][Turkish]AIKI Chp 01 by Sagdan-Sola

Sağdan Sola [manga çeviri grubu]

[AIKI Cilt01 Bölüm01]

Sayfa 01
[Kapak 1 - Renkli]

Sayfa 02
[Kapak 2 - Renksiz]

Sayfa 03
[Kapak 3 - İçindekiler]

Sayfa 04
- Bu mu?
- Öyle görünüyor.
- Ojousan'ın baş edemeyeceğimizi söylediğini biliyorum, ama...
- Gerçekten öyle mi bunu kendi gözlerimler görmek istiyorum...

Sayfa 05-06
[Sayfa - Renkli]

Sayfa 07
- Sen Kunitoshi Joukyuu'sun değil mi?
- Bizimle birkaç kelime konuşmayı düşünür müsün?

Sayfa 08
- Sizi Kizuki gönderdi değil mi?
- Ne kadar acı verici...
- Hımfff! Nasıl bir adam iki güzel kadını geri çevirebilir.
- Hareketini yap Homei.
- İyi tekme.

Sayfa 09
- Hadi oturalım ve arkadaşça konuşalım...
- Senlik değil ama...
- Gerçekten çok iyi bacaklar...
- Avv, ne hoş.

Sayfa 10
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 11
- Hey, hey!
- Burası Japonya değil mi?
- Ov, hadi ama.
- Bu sadece eski bir havalı silah.
- Kastetdiğim bu değil...
- 3 kat daha fazla hava basıncı olması
- ve 45 kalibrelik sert lastikten mermileri olması hariç.
- Gerçeğinden pek farklı değil mi?
- Nıh, endişelenme!
- 150 kmlik bir bezbol topunun çarpmasından kötü değil.
- Bana sorarsan birini indirmek için yeterli...

Sayfa 12
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 13
- Kahretsin, doğruca tuzaklarına düştüm.
- Ama...
- Bu pozisyon biraz tuhaf değil mi?
- Yok! Bana kalırsa gayet iyi bir pozisyon.
- Urghh!

Sayfa 14
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 15
- Ben daha fazla bela olur diye düşünmüştüm!
- Mermilerinden kaçabildiğine şaşırdım, Metara.
- Mermilerimden kaçabilen sadece altıncı kişi...
- Gayet fazla bir rakam...
- Rahatsız ettiğimiz için özür dileriz!
- He, bu arada polise giderseniz sizi öldürürüz.
- Onu daha ne kadar böyle tutmayı düşünüyorsun?
- Sadece önlem alıyorum.

Sayfa 16
[Yazı: Juzenji Özel Lisesi]

Sayfa 17
- Kizuki-san klübümüze katılmaya karar veremedin mi?
- Bir cevap bekliyoruz.
- Evet...
- Dürüst olayım mı?

Sayfa 18
- Benden güçlü birileri olmayan bir klübe katılmam pek gereksiz olurdu...
- Eğer yaparsam sizin seviyenize düşerim.
- Eğer sizi kırdıysam...
- Bu çok kötü.

Sayfa 19
- Bizler Jusenji Bojutsu Klübü üyeleriyiz!
- Bakalım kim daha güçlüymüş!
- Tamam, ama önce şu kontratı imzalar mısın?
- Kontrat mı?

Sayfa 20
- Bir taraflarınız acıdığında,
- sızlanmanızı istemem.

Sayfa 21
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 22
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 23
- ÇOK
- HIZLI
- Hızlı olduğumdan değil...
- Sizden önce davrandım.

Sayfa 24
- Hey, iyi iş.
- Liseli kız yağmuru hı? Hoşuma gitti...
- Onu getirdik.
- Yapamayacağımızı söyledin, ama...
- Ne!?

Sayfa 25
- Lütfen usta...
- Sana yalvarıyorum bana öğret...
- Ne oldu Ojousan.
- Bu herife USTA'mı diyor!
- Benim usta olduğumu kim söyledi?
- Herneyse ne istiyorsun?
- Zaten yeterince güçlüsün.

Sayfa 26
- Haklı. Onu yakalamak hiçde zor değildi.
- Sende daha güçlü olması imkansız.
- O kadar saf olmayın...
- Ne olduğunu bilmiyorum ama...
- Eğer ciddi olsaydı,
- Şu an baygın bir halde hastanede olurdunuz.
- Gerçekten mi hiçte güçlü görünmüyor...
- O zaman, neden denemiyoruz?

Sayfa 27
- Güçsüzün teki işte.
- Kesin şunu!
- O onurlu biri, kadınlara zarar vermez.
- Hayır, mecbur kalırsam veririm.
- Ama şuan hiçbir bok yapamam...
- Benim yaşlı bunak bana, 'Bu okul dövüşleri senin neslinle sona eriyor!' demişti ve güçlerimi mühürleyip öldü...

Sayfa 28
- Mühürlendi mi!?
- Yine salakça şeyler söylemeye başladı.
- Şuan normal gücümü bile kullanamıyorum.
- Yani sana öğretebilmemin bir yolu yok.
- Görüşürüz!
- Yalancı!
- Mühür mü? Sen neden bahsediyorsun?
- İlgilenmediğin bir kıza palavra atıyormuşsun gibime geliyor.

Sayfa 29
- Onu ben alıyorum kızlar!

Sayfa 30
[Sayfa]

Sayfa 31
- Ovoovovooovv!

Sayfa 32
- Auç, bu acıttı, nereye nişan aldığına dikkat et!
- Hey, benim suçum değil! Ne zamandan beri bu sürtüğün kalkanı oldun!?
- Huh...
- ........
- Ahh...
- Kunitoshi
- Eğer benim tarafıma katılırsan bir sürü 'Bonusun' olacak...

Sayfa 33
- Elimde yüzlerce liseli kız var...
- Seni sıcak karşılayacaklarına eminim...
- Yüzlerce mi...!
- Heyi heyi hey!
- Ve bu sadece başlangıç.
- Cennet seni bekliyor Kunitoshi.
- Bunu bir düşün...
- Ayrıca buna ihtiyacım olduğunu şüphesine kapıldım...

Sayfa 34
- Bu kız Mıu Takatori, bu okulun kontrolü onda...
- Bir çocuğa göre gayet güçlü.
- Evet, biliyorum.
- O benim kuzenim.
- Kuzenin mi!?
- Uh-huh, hep böyle rekabetçiydi...
- Sana yalvarıyorum lütfen Ojousan'a öğret!
- Yoksa grubu parçalanacak...
- Tanrım, bu saçmalık olur...
- Bu resmen yumruk kavgasına silah getirmeye benzer...

Sayfa 35
- Pekala, iyi şanslar!
- Joukyuu-san!
- Endişelenme Ojousan.
- Seni canımız pahasına koruyacağız...

[Son]