Discussion Spriggan 12 Magic

[Kiki]

One thing is sure, we have seen August can block Laxus' nuke. He may have nullification/canceller/shield or defensive magic. His other magic, I am still unsure.

As for North Spriggan trio (Irene-Bradman-Larcade), I am still unsure as well. They may have magic that is perfect counter to Sting and Rogue's dragon slayer magic, Yukino's CS magic, Minerva's Territory and War God magic, Jenny's Take Over, Orga's GS magic, etc etc but if FT's north team is destined to win this battle, the trio may have magic that has weakness against or can be countered by FT's north team. Just what is it?

 

[Ebony Maw]

One thing is sure, we have seen August can block Laxus' nuke. He may have nullification/canceller/shield or defensive magic. His other magic, I am still unsure.

As for North Spriggan trio (Irene-Bradman-Larcade), I am still unsure as well. They may have magic that is perfect counter to Sting and Rogue's dragon slayer magic, Yukino's CS magic, Minerva's Territory and War God magic, Jenny's Take Over, Orga's GS magic, etc etc but if FT's north team is destined to win this battle, the trio may have magic that has weakness against or can be countered by FT's north team. Just what is it?

I think Bradman either has some kind of hyper draining magic (perhaps connected to Obra) or a kind of magic that affects the blood flow of other people. As for Irene, I saw an interesting post in another thread suggesting that her magic makes things change to their opposite. I don't really know what to expect from Larcade but he may be another summoner like Neinhart, it would explain why ST and BP were so overwhelmed. Personally I don't think that the FT team in the North are going to win, if the three spriggans managed to beat back two entire guilds I'm not seeing how Gajeel, Mira and co. are beating them without serious BS.

 

[Rain Cloud]

Out of interest what do you guys think the last spriggans magic will be? This is ignoring the guy next to Bradman so there's no point basing it on appearance. Personally I think he'll be some sort of defensive magic that can also be used as an offensive magic, a bit like Reflector in that sense.

Metal. I think he's going to throw 5 days worth of metal at Gajeel and he's going to eat it as a meal, be like "metal? To me this is just five days worth of food" and go into Dragon Force or something, lol. (stated this somewhere else, too I'm sure you saw it)

 

[Ebony Maw]

Metal. I think he's going to throw 5 days worth of metal at Gajeel and he's going to eat it as a meal, be like "metal? To me this is just five days worth of food" and go into Dragon Force or something, lol. (stated this somewhere else, too I'm sure you saw it)

It would be interesting if he uses something like Bixlow's/LS girl's (forgot her name lol) Doll Magic but he controls massive metal constructs. I guess that might be too similar to Wahl though.....

 

[BluePegasus]

I do like the idea of Irene's magic that she can change things to their opposite. Just like how she can change a cold snow field into a warm flower field.

As for Bradman, I think he has something like Blood Manipulation (like blood bending in Avatar).

Can't say anything about Rakheid, yet.

 

[Ebony Maw]

I do like the idea of Irene's magic that she can change things to their opposite. Just like how she can change a cold snow field into a warm flower field.

As for Bradman, I think he has something like Blood Manipulation (like blood bending in Avatar).

Can't say anything about Rakheid, yet.

I'm hoping that there's a logical weakness to Bradman because at the moment I can't think of any way he can be beat, my best guess would be that Gajeel goes ISD against him and due to the metal covering him it blocks the ability to manipulate his blood/tissue.

 

[Arjuna]

I feel Bradman inflicts immense pressure on blood vessels and causes the vessels to swell up and due to blood bending the victims cough blood and die.

 

[Ebony Maw]

I feel Bradman inflicts immense pressure on blood vessels and causes the vessels to swerl up and due to blood bending the victims cough blood and die.

That's probably the most likely but it also makes me nervous because I can't think of any logical way that you can counter that kind of magic, unless he goes up against Gildarts as we've seen Gildarts crash forces (gravity) before. In a way I'll be sad to see Bradman go, his magic (if it's near your guess) is awesome and has an air of menace to it. I think Bradman is going to need to face a titan of a mage or a combo of great mages in order to be put down.

 

[Arjuna]

That's probably the most likely but it also makes me nervous because I can't think of any logical way that you can counter that kind of magic, unless he goes up against Gildarts as we've seen Gildarts crash forces (gravity) before. In a way I'll be sad to see Bradman go, his magic (if it's near your guess) is awesome and has an air of menace to it. I think Bradman is going to need to face a titan of a mage or a combo of great mages in order to be put down.

What if Gajeel in his Iron mode able to withstand Bradman's magic.I can only think of him who can be an effective opponent against Bradman.

 

[Ebony Maw]

What if Gajeel in his Iron mode able to withstand Bradman's magic.I can only think of him who can be an effective opponent against Bradman.

That's what I've been thinking too but my only quarrel with that idea is to do with Rogue. If Rogue did face him (this is an if, I think he and Sting did but I'm not sure) then he likely would have tried to go into his intangible shadow form which would raise the question of why would Gajeel covering his skin with iron/steel matter if Bradman could affect an intangible Rogue?

 

[Jko]

I think Irene has reality warping and Bradman has death or blood magic.

 

[Vanadium]

I'm thinking about Brandish magic and how strong it is. she manipulates mass object and as we've seen it with marin and natsu it can be effective on the body so against August (if a fight would happen) can she do something against him ?!(unless he'll guess her moves or he'll read her mind) I mean she could shrink a tumor (which was spotted without any x-ray or MRI ) so all she has to do is aiming a vital organ ( his heart or brain) and make it bigger till it explodes lol. as this bones bag is so old, increasing his prostate would be better

 

[Ebony Maw]

I'm thinking about Brandish magic and how strong it is. she manipulates mass object and as we've seen it with marin and natsu it can be effective on the body so against August (if a fight would happen) can she do something against him ?!(unless he'll guess her moves or he'll read her mind) I mean she could shrink a tumor (which was spotted without any x-ray or MRI ) so all she has to do is aiming a vital organ ( his heart or brain) and make it bigger till it explodes lol. as this bones bag is so old, increasing his prostate would be better

Being honest, I actually think Brandish was taken out so early because Hiro realized how hax her magic was. That being said would miniaturizing August reduce his power/combat effectiveness? Also does the limit of Mass Manipulation depend on Magic Power? If so then she's not touching August with Mass Manipulation. This is a bit of a bizarre idea but what if August actually knows all of the other Spriggans (bar Irene's) Magic and that he was the one that taught them? He seems like a grandfather figure to them.

 

[Rain Cloud]

I think Bradman either has some kind of hyper draining magic (perhaps connected to Obra) or a kind of magic that affects the blood flow of other people.

I would like the obra-type magic (even if he's not obra). I feel like hyper draining through touch would be reasonable way to go about it.

But this is Hiro Mashima, so something with the level of hax like the blood thing is probably more likely lol. Then it'll be dealt with in an unsatisfying way. And then Bradman will lose. The end. :[ (hopefully I am wrong lol)

 

[Ebony Maw]

I would like the obra-type magic (even if he's not obra). I feel like hyper draining through touch would be reasonable way to go about it.

But this is Hiro Mashima, so something with the level of hax like the blood thing is probably more likely lol. Then it'll be dealt with in an unsatisfying way. And then Bradman will lose. The end. :[ (hopefully I am wrong lol)

I don't think it is even through touch, from what the ST members said he was killing them by just being around them (something along those lines). I think Bradman is just another puppet of Obra tbh, though I'm not sure why Irene wouldn't just call him Obra if so, unless Obra was just an alias and his/her/its real name is Bradman. I can definitely see the second part of your post happening tbh, my satisfying fights would be the Twin Dragons and Gajeel vs Bradman/Obra (I'm certain of this) and Mira, Minerva, Rufus and Orga vs the new guy (Larcade?) but I highly doubt that will happen.

 

[BluePegasus]

Imo Brandish' and Di Maria's magic are really hax. I think that's why they were defeated in an unfair way. Branish was stomped by Cana and Di Maria couldn't use Age Seal thanks to someone who isn't alive anymore. It kinda looks like a way to get rid of them, since they would be too dangerous if they wouldn't be 'defeated' as fast as possible. Even though I want the Spriggans to be powerful, I think it would be better if Di Maria and Brandish had some limitations. Otherwise, they're kinda undefeatable.

 

[Doughboy]

I think Bradman's magic is Blood Magic but more complicated than just killing anyone that's near you... maybe he blows up the red blood cells in a person's body and that's how they die. Which makes Gajeel a perfect opponent cause he could harden his entire body, maybe even to the cells to prevent them from blowing up

Plus in one of the last panels he can travel and appear from the ground using shadows and shit. Dope

 

[Brandish μ]

I think Bradman's magic is similar to Hyberion's. So it could be blood magic. It causes people to die like poor Bill.

Brandish and DiMaria are haxxed but overall I'd say they're capabilities are equivalent to Wahl or God Serena's. DiMaria can stop time, but she'd still have a lot of trouble beating someone really strong. Brandish doesn't even have combat feats yet, she's only ever used her magic in controlled situations. I can't wait for DiMaria vs Brandish.

 

[Vici]

using shadows and shit. Dope

That's some natsy magic if you ask me :P


What if Bloodman isn't controling blood itself but Iron that blood contains ?:P it would be good way for him to counter most of Gajeel techniques and push him to his limits ( if he can manipulate Iron ). Well we should get our answer soon enough if with Bloodman design we will get some cool magic on top of that ( And if he will not be a disgrace for spriggans name ) he may end up high in my ranking :P

Blood Magic , Iron Manipulation ( Something like that :P ) or Magic that can create some diseases inside enemy and cause Damage for inner organs and DOT damage all sounds cool with me :P

I can't wait for DiMaria vs Brandish.

You really think that's gonna happen?. Well if yes i wonder how would Brandish counter Dimaria Magic ( if she can stop someone time who is close to her own MP )

 

[Brandish μ]

You really think that's gonna happen?. Well if yes i wonder how would Brandish counter Dimaria Magic ( if she can stop someone time who is close to her own MP )

What I think and want can be 2 very different things But like shipping I tend to pick a team an stick with it until the wheels fall off the wagon, so I'm very much believing we'll get Randi v Marie

On your second point I think there's a way to get past Age Seal. Idk what it is apart from Ultear... and DiMaria seemed awfully surprised that someone was able to move. So it's quite possible that was the first time ever that someone moved in her time magic.

That said I do believe it is slightly possible that stronger people are able to notice Age Seal, and maybe even the really strong ones could move (okay I'm reaching). Kagura was able to perceive something imo...

Spoiler: Chapter 467

In the CR translation Kagura says this "The overwhelming strength of her magic has frozen the battlefield solid". From this I think there are 2 possibilities...
1. DiMaria's MP is so strong it's frozen the battlefield by mere presence (possibly Mashima foreshadowing her ability here too)
2. Kagura noticed everything stopped from Age Seal

I do believe the portrayal of the whole scene favours option 1. But for Brandish' sake I want option 2 to be true