Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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I dont know, I think FullDrive chp 2 was exciting. Love the new boy, and love the upgraded paddle. Also the familiar school setting is what I wanted most from this. The potential to be an amazing series is even brighter than ever.

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RxL was good too. We need more

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While I wasn't to crazy over either Golem Heart or Full Drive first chapter, Full Drive at least in my opinion came across as something that could be around a while. Golem Heart on the other hand as of right now, its still early so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt to prove me wrong, comes across as slightly below average to what it could be. Not saying that Golem Heart is bad just needs more chapters to get a good feel of the plot moving forward for me anyway, though I do hope it doesn't become like one piece with how each arc is presented.

The 2nd chapter of Full Drive was cringy inducing with the MC screaming "I WANT TO DESTROY EVERYONE ABOVE ME!"
Don't most sports series have a moment similar to this in them or for that matter every series that isn't a gag series in shounen genre?
 

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I'll give credit to the author of Dr. Stone: his comedy and use of real-world references are hilarious. This series may be nothing special but dude really has a good sense of humor. He had the Trump statue in Chp 1 and in the recent chapter he made a reference to the "Salt Bae" meme that ran for a little on Twitter earlier in the year lol:

 

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To me, the main character of Full Drive is the best part of the manga so far. The way he stopped Marin from saying that he's grandson of a famous table tennis player was amazing, he wants to show to world HIS name. Good second chapter, I'm not really really excited, but that was good.
 

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Dan didn't really grow on me this chapter. Though I have to ask what exactly is he working towards? His character didn't exactly strike me as anything new or anything I could empathize with. Then again it's only the second chapter.
 

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I think his goal is going to be to make it to the Olympics.
 

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I think Dan's the worst part of the manga. Dudes dull af
 

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So the way Viz phrases the last line in Golem Hearts is "Their days together are coming to an end". So it strongly implies the master will die more than MS did
 

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How does that imply death, there are other ways for their days together to end (Noah gets kidnapped, the alchemist gets captured and jailed in a govt kingdom etc)
 

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How does that imply death, there are other ways for their days together to end (Noah gets kidnapped, the alchemist gets captured and jailed in a govt kingdom etc)
I typically associate the phrase "coming to an end" with death, or at the very least, something bad happening.
Like, if you're moving outof your parents house to another state/country you won't say "my time with my parents is coming to an end".
It sorta implies that you won't ever see them again.
 

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You say Lamech's name is kind of an obvious romanization since he is the father of Noah?


But not for Viz!
 
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Personally, Full Drive's trajectory based on these two chapters is rather worrying. Its almost a full copy of Prince of Tennis' first chapters. While there are clear differences like PoT's hazing incident, Setagaya being this specialized academy, the overall progression is very similar. The problem is however, that it ends up feeling like a watered down PoT. There's nothing wrong with having a similar progression as this is Jump but feeling like a watered down version is very detrimental for staying in the magazine as people will quickly lose interest. The MC also needs more characterization which I hope will be done in the seemingly upcoming match with the upperclassman. If this continues, I predict that the MC will cause a big uproar or sorts in the academy and will eventually take part in some event to select players for some upcoming tournament and will probably be chosen as a regular. I hope this is not the route the story takes. There however seems to be an Olympics end stage with the mention of China so the story might cover more than one year at least. Does anyone know what Ono Genki's favourite manga are as listed in those small introductions? Either he's subconsiously following the PoT route or both him and the editor decided that "since this is a "hot-blooded" table tennis manga, let's follow Prince of Tennis". They may be going for that crowd though that crowd or a similar crowd though PoT's crowd has already grown up.

Also this may be the translation but the dialogue really didn't flow too well for me. There is also a huge amount of white background. Both color pages were also basically just the characters doing some poses, besides the intro pages for the first chapter. I wonder if this is this artist's style. The line width is also rather thin so it almost seems faded. This will be good for matches
 

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The 2nd chapter of Full Drive was cringy inducing with the MC screaming "I WANT TO DESTROY EVERYONE ABOVE ME!"
It's just MS cringe translations.

More importantly, did anyone notice that chapter 3 will be extended up to 25 pages?! That early? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that treatment rewarded for titles that have been in the magazine for a long time?
 

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More importantly, did anyone notice that chapter 3 will be extended up to 25 pages?! That early? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that treatment rewarded for titles that have been in the magazine for a long time?
Isn't that how most non-gag series go?

50-60 pages for ch 1
30 or so for ch 2
20-25 for ch 3
and ch 4 onward is when the normal length ones start.
 

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Isn't that how most non-gag series go?

50-60 pages for ch 1
30 or so for ch 2
20-25 for ch 3
and ch 4 onward is when the normal length ones start.
Really the third chapter is 20-25? I know it's almost always extended for the first 2 but never really noticed it for the third.
 

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It's just MS cringe translations.

More importantly, did anyone notice that chapter 3 will be extended up to 25 pages?! That early? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that treatment rewarded for titles that have been in the magazine for a long time?
I thought every new series got 25 pages for chapter 3
 

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Full Drive's 2nd chapter killed my interest in it. I was already pretty shaky on the art but the protagonist was at least fresh in how he wants to blend in and let his skills speak for him. Now he's joining a top school and picking fights. In contrast, when RXL 'shonenized' its MC we could call it character development as he was starting something new to him.
Does anyone know what Ono Genki's favourite manga are as listed in those small introductions? Either he's subconsiously following the PoT route or both him and the editor decided that "since this is a "hot-blooded" table tennis manga, let's follow Prince of Tennis". They may be going for that crowd though that crowd or a similar crowd though PoT's crowd has already grown up.
He was the Sunday battler fan: Ushio to Tora, Zatch Bell. Makes sports a weird genre for him.
I'm not seeing PoT-specific similarities but I'm sure an editor is giving him some paint by numbers advice.
 

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New series usually get 54 pgs for Ch. 1, 25 for 2 and 23 for 3. Pretty weird for FD getting 2 more, though I guess its just new EiC doing something new or the author not being able to compress Ch. 3 enough.
 

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Friday its public holiday in Japan this week. So logicaly scan/raw will be out thursday.
 

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Didn't like the second chapter of Full Drive, the new characters look so "bland", and i can stand the MC and the tsundere girl.

Friday its public holiday in Japan this week. So logicaly scan/raw will be out thursday.
TOC earlier then?
 
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