Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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Ouch, that food wars sales drop. It went from 3.47 million to 2.8 million. It had like 6 volumes and an anime yet it still dropped heavy.

Do the die hard fans think we're still going to get an international saga after this? Lmao.
I attribute this largely to a single, central problem that has been plaguing the series for far too long. I used to be insanely hyped for Shokugeki every week, but this arc is moving at a snail's pace.
 

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I attribute this largely to a single, central problem that has been plaguing the series for far too long. I used to be insanely hyped for Shokugeki every week, but this arc is moving at a snail's pace.
That and also the big factor that shokugeki's can only be so interesting/fun for so long. It's so boring at this point and has been predictable most of the time for a long time now.

The concept is no longer interesting and it's been this way for a long time. It's just about ships & best girls at this point.
 
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Anyone know why the sale for individual new volumes for MHA is dropping? Volume 15 i understand since it might be release prior to the ranking.

Vol 12 - 744,085
Vol 13 - 692,076
Vol 14 - 673,359
Vol 15 - 597,059

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Anyone know why the sale for individual new volumes for MHA is dropping? Volume 15 i understand since it might be release prior to the ranking.

Vol 12 - 744,085
Vol 13 - 692,076
Vol 14 - 673,359
Vol 15 - 597,059
The release dates are different. Volume 12 was released in February, Vol 13 in April, Vol 14 in June. Vol 15 was released in September but is less than 80k away from Volume 14 despite the difference in 3 months.
 

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Anyone know why the sale for individual new volumes for MHA is dropping? Volume 15 i understand since it might be release prior to the ranking.

Vol 12 - 744,085
Vol 13 - 692,076
Vol 14 - 673,359
Vol 15 - 597,059
Time deference? It's simple really
 

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That and also the big factor that shokugeki's can only be so interesting/fun for so long. It's so boring at this point and has been predictable most of the time for a long time now.
I can agree with that. In order to keep shokugekis interesting and fun, they could've made some of them a bit more lighthearted or zany. I get that they're serious at heart and the cornerstone of the school, but this Azami/Central arc sucked the joy out of them by relying on tension and fear. I preferred the battles between rivals rather than "life-or-death" scenarios.
 

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The release dates are different. Volume 12 was released in February, Vol 13 in April, Vol 14 in June. Vol 15 was released in September but is less than 80k away from Volume 14 despite the difference in 3 months.
Time deference? It's simple really
Interesting, i always think people will rush out to the book store to buy it immediately.

So some of them are like me, waiting to pile up and buy in bulks. Gotcha.
 

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I wanted so much to see Neverland higher than Black Clover...

Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
 

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As in not yet, or they won't come at all? You're worryin me here man.
Perhaps come in march/avril in Oricon Book (out each year) but this year in oricon site for member (need to pay for be member) (not www.oricon.co.jp) they are only top 10 and top 50. Last year was top 30 and top 100, but i check archive and even now for 2016 they are only top 10 and top 50.

Perhaps Oricon keep top 30 and top 100 for guy buy book.

For 2016 year, its this book (out 29/03/2017). Price : 32 400 yens.
 

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Yuragi info page revealing Yuuki Ono as Koga's VA.
Anime visual will be revealed at the Jump Festa stage, along with main cast VAs (Sagiri, Chisaki, Yuuna).
 

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Perhaps come in march/avril in Oricon Book (out each year) but this year in oricon site for member (need to pay for be member) (not www.oricon.co.jp) they are only top 10 and top 50. Last year was top 30 and top 100, but i check archive and even now for 2016 they are only top 10 and top 50.

Perhaps Oricon keep top 30 and top 100 for guy buy book.

For 2016 year, its this book (out 29/03/2017). Price : 32 400 yens.
Huh, I thought they always released the entire top 30 at the same date
 

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Holy, that season 2 boost.
If this is what a season 2 boost looks like, imagine what a season 3 boost looks like.....

BTW, for comparison's sake, how much did it sell in comparison to last year? I think it's just me, but I think it's selling less than last year even though it ranked higher...?

That and also the big factor that shokugeki's can only be so interesting/fun for so long. It's so boring at this point and has been predictable most of the time for a long time now.

The concept is no longer interesting and it's been this way for a long time. It's just about ships & best girls at this point.
Honestly, I always knew the author was extremely average. When you have to resort to tentacle rape in the first chapter for shock value, you know it's not going to be able maintain quality in the long run. I was surprised it lasted this long because I keep asking myself, why the hell do people even like this? The matches are downright predictable. The ones staying for the fanservice, I can understand, but the battle aspect? Horrible. The only exception is the autumn finals, which I actually liked.

If the author really wanted to make the current saga interesting, he would be doing himself a huge favor if he could emulate Cutthroat Kitchen's format. The big bad is outright cheating, why not make it completely legal for both sides? The writing quality would come down to how creative the author can be with the sabotages.
 

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If this is what a season 2 boost looks like, imagine what a season 3 boost looks like.....

BTW, for comparison's sake, how much did it sell in comparison to last year? I think it's just me, but I think it's selling less than last year even though it ranked higher...?
MHA was 7th last year with 5,114,916 in sales.
 

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MHA SMASHING everything. Gj.

I attribute this largely to a single, central problem that has been plaguing the series for far too long. I used to be insanely hyped for Shokugeki every week, but this arc is moving at a snail's pace.
Im sure that’s part of it, but I think its also just the natural cycle of the series. It reached its peak a while ago and now it’s just gonna drop until it dies like Toriko and countless other examples... The fact that the manga just isn’t interesting anymore probably contributed to the speed it’s fallen though. Considering it’s still in the top 10, I doubt we’ll see it go anywhere for another 2 years at least though.

Also interesting to note Kingdom’s rise/ TG:re’s fall throughout the year. All the TG volumes at the start of the year smashed Kingdom, but you see it slowly catch up and surpass it to the point where their latest volumes which were released on the same day are 80k apart with Kingdom in the lead. Kingdom also doesn’t seem to have as much of a time lag on volumes as other series (they’re all around the same number with 47 even outselling 46?). Pretty damn consistent fanbase who are all buying the volumes in a short time period, and it’s only growing. Volumes released 6 months apart being at almost identical numbers is pretty incredible when other series have 50-100K+ differences over that time. Will probably see it take that spot behind HxH/AoT come next year.
 

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Two main reasons why shokugeki is still selling well are 1) waifus, and 2) satisfaction of having the complete set
 

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Robot x Laserbeam : 3 volumes : 460 000 (with digital sales inclued).
 
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