Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[WyldViolet]

It's just shitty seeing Golem Hearts get last place as Black Clover gets a color page...
One is clearly something the mangaka is passionate and cares about, full of charm and just what a generic battle shonen should be.
Then the other is seriously the most poorly written battle manga to ever get popular in the magazine. Even if it's gotten "less terrible" it still is an embarrassment compared to the rest of Jump's vast library.

 

[Tarot]

Not really. The last volume (#13) sold 144.506 copies in 12 days. This volume (#14) sold 182.561 copies in 14 days. Divide the amount of copies sold through the amount of days respectively and you get this:
#13: 144.506 copies / 12 days = 12.042 copies/day
#14: 182.561 copies / 14 days = 13.040 copies/day
Volume #14 just sold 1k copies more per day, which means volume #14 should have sold around 156.480 copies in 12 days, just 12k more than volume #13.
For comparison: The Promised Neverland had a bigger boost from volume #3 to volume #4 than Black Clover's volumes #13 and #14 have.
│*94969 (6)│122494│------│------│------┃*,247,320 (104)┃2017/04｜約束のネバーランド 3
│134300 (6)│182819│209882│******│240991┃*,240,991 (*34)┃2017/07｜約束のネバーランド 4

How many days did it take for Black Clover volume 13 to sell 180k?

 

[WyldViolet]

Btw let's do that thing where we rank our current enjoyment of all the series in Jump we're reading rn.

For me.
Robot x Lazerbeam
The Promised Neverland
Hinomaru Sumo
One Piece
Golem Hearts
Yuragi
Shoodan
We Never Learn
My Hero Academia
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr. Stone
Black Clover

Gintama and Haikyuu on hold, HxH and World Trigger on hiatus still

 

[TM2]

Hero Academia
One Piece
Hinomaru
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Saiki
Promised Neverland
Shokugeki
We Never Learn
Dr. Stone
Golem Hearts
Haikyuu
Robot x Lazerbeam
Shoodan
Yuragi
Full Drive
Black Clover

 

[Nakura]

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. My Hero Academia
3. Hinomaru Zumou
4. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Full Drive
7. Black Clover

Hunter x Hunter is on hiatus and scans of Saiki are really far behind afaik.

On Hold
Gintama
Haikyu!!
We Never Learn
Robot x Laserbeam

Dropped
One Piece
Dr. Stone
Boruto
Golem Hearts
Tomatoypoo

 

[ShenGao]

1. Boku no Hero Academia
2. One Piece
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. We never Learn
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Dr. Stone
7. Black Clover
8. RobotxLaserbeam
9. Golem Hearts

Hinomaru doesn't have regularly translated chapters and I dropped Shokugeki & Yuuna. Don't care about the rest.

 

[SharkBait]

Btw let's do that thing where we rank our current enjoyment of all the series in Jump we're reading rn.

Haikyuu!!
BLack Clover
Boruto
Shuudan
HeroAca
Food Wars (when I dont skim a chapter)
Promised Neverland
Dr Stone (skim more chapters than read)
RxL (skim more chapters than read)

 

[Caiops]

For me:
Promised Neverland
Robot x Laserbeam
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Boku no Hero
Yuragi
Dr. Stone
We Never Learn
One Piece
Shokugeki
Boruto
Black Clover
Full Drive
Haikyuu

 

[razerxs]

1. Black Clover
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. Haikyuu!
   
4. One Piece
5. The Promised Neverland
   
6. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
7. Golem Hearts
8. Gintama
9. Dr. Stone
10. Shudan
    
11. Robot x Laserbeam
    
12. We Never Learn
13. Shokugeki no Soma
14. My Hero Academia
    
15. Full Drive

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Boku no Hero Academia
Black Clover
Dr. Stone
Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Robot x Laserbeam
We Never Learn
Shokugeki no Souma
Yakusoku no Neverland
Golem Hearts
Boruto

On Hold:
One Piece
Haikyuu!
Gintama
PSI Saiki Kusuo
Hinomaru Zumou
Shuudan!
HxH
World Trigger

Dropped:
Cross Account
Fulldrive
Tomatoypoo
Spring Weapon Number 1

 

[101nemesis]

Even if it sold 1 million per volume you'd still get people calling Black Clover a flop.

The thing is that it isn't even selling 500k. THAT's why people think it's failing.

 

[nonowa]

People described the oneshot as a bit like Shokugeki but with acting instead of cooking, though oneshots can always change when turning into full series.

That's exactly what I'm looking for! Where could I find this one-shot?

The thing is that it isn't even selling 500k. THAT's why people think it's failing.

What is actually selling 500k, though? I think the biggest indicator of BC not being the hit Jump wants it to be would be that it's getting outsold by something like Neverland.

 

[Franz]

Then the other is seriously the most poorly written battle manga to ever get popular in the magazine. Even if it's gotten "less terrible" it still is an embarrassment compared to the rest of Jump's vast library.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2017 ---

Anyway:

1. One Piece
2. My Hero Accademia
3. Hunter X Hunter
4. Black Clover
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Dr. Stone
7. Shokugeki no Soma

 

[HIGAN0]

I need my World Trigger back....

One Piece
Hinomaru Zumou
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr. Stone
We Never Learn
Black Clover
Shudan
My Hero Academia
Yuuna-san
Golem Hearts
The Promised Neverland
Full Drive
Soma
Robot

 

[Franz]

The thing is that it isn't even selling 500k..

??

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2017 ---

It's just shitty seeing Golem Hearts get last place as Black Clover gets a color page....

No, it' just right...

 

[Pietro]

For me:
One piece
Neverland
Black clover
My hero academia
Dr. Stone
Robotx laserbeam
Food wars
Kimetsu no yaiba
Hinomaru zumou
Boruto
Yuragi no yuuna san
We can't study
Golem hearts
Shudan
Golem hearts
Full drive

On hold:
World trigger
Gintama

 

[xAsum0x]

Good taste all around

 

[WyldViolet]

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2017, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2017 ---

Anyway:

1. One Piece
2. My Hero Accademia
3. Hunter X Hunter
4. Black Clover
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Dr. Stone
7. Shokugeki no Soma

Yes, I'm serious. At the risk of all these posts getting purged, name a worse battle manga that has ran in Jump as long as Black Clover has.

 

[De La Croissant]

One Piece
My Hero Academia
Kimetsu no Yaiba
Haikyuu!!
Gintama
The Promised Neverland
Souma
Dr. Stone
Shoodan
Golem Hearts

 

[Doughboy]

My Hero Academia
Hunter x Hunter
We Never Learn
Golem Hearts
Yuuna
Dr. Stone
Food Wars (barely)
Boruto

Just watch Black Clover’s anime. Dropped Full Drive, Neverland, One Piece.