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You mean, Trump would continue what's going on under Biden? The horror!
When did Biden expel protestors from the United States lol?

Trump isn't just saying he's gonna stop the protests like Biden, he's saying he's gonna kick these kids out of the country.
 

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And how do we know Biden won't allow that to happen either? Or wouldn't?
 

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We don't. My point is that Biden has given us no reason to believe that kicking students out of the country for protesting is on his itinerary. So far he's dealt with the protestors in ways that exclude exile. There's no reason to believe it will escalate to kicking them out of the country.

He's also not fucking dumb enough to think he can pull that off, but Trump is.
 

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Biden doesn't have to say or do anything, he can stay quiet and let others do all the work, as he's been doing. Just domestically alone, lot of lefts lost faith in Biden because he's continued Trump's BS like building a wall and has barely upheld his promises, like cancelling student loans and dealing with covid. No reason to try to force people to go back to office or stop sending covid testing kits and whatnot.
 

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So... what you are going with is that biden is going to exile people from the US and your evidence of that is... that he hasn't said he isn't going to do it and other folk, presumably imaginary. will do it anyways? what?
 

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Not the biggest fan of Kidology, cause fuck centrism... but when someone's right, they're right.
 

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And trumps hush money trial is at it's final stage. I'd be fairly surprised if he isn't declared guilty considering michael cohen went to prison for this. I am surprised the trial lasted for this long though. Could something happen in regards to cohen's senate hearing or his prison time if trump is acquitted?
 

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So... what you are going with is that biden is going to exile people from the US and your evidence of that is... that he hasn't said he isn't going to do it and other folk, presumably imaginary. will do it anyways? what?
me: Israel shouldn't exist anymore, Zionists can go relocate elsewhere.
ninjabot: omg I can't believe you're saying Zionists should be killed!!

even pro-Israeli news: cops attacked faculty members who were protecting students from getting beaten up.
kick: I've never heard of teachers getting attacked by cops


Yeeeeah, says it all for me.



Anyway, whether Trump is guilty or not, I don't think he'll really get punished. Mans is a wealthy white man and a presidential candidate with connections, so if anything he'll probably get a light slap on the wrist. Plus, his cult following is so brainwashed that they probably would not only give him money if he asked for it, but fight to save him.
 

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me: Israel shouldn't exist anymore, Zionists can go relocate elsewhere.
ninjabot: omg I can't believe you're saying Zionists should be killed!!

even pro-Israeli news: cops attacked faculty members who were protecting students from getting beaten up.
kick: I've never heard of teachers getting attacked by cops


Yeeeeah, says it all for me.



Anyway, whether Trump is guilty or not, I don't think he'll really get punished. Mans is a wealthy white man and a presidential candidate with connections, so if anything he'll probably get a light slap on the wrist. Plus, his cult following is so brainwashed that they probably would not only give him money if he asked for it, but fight to save him.
Now that's some nazi shit.

I have not once said that the police isn't acting against teachers (or students). What I have said is that it is university's staff that calls the police and the police is simply doing it's job in the way they are supposed to.
 

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I never said you said that though, but that's also not all you said.


Also, while we're at it, Dems' image has taken a beating because of politicians like Eric Adams. They've been talking about defunding cops, but they actually gave more funding to cops, and Eric Adams is probably the worst of them because he took away funding from other departments and pumped it into NYPD, who have not even earned their money BEFORE the money.

If only republican voters had the intellect and critical thinking skills to realize how bad their politicians are though.
 

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M3J said:
me: Israel shouldn't exist anymore, Zionists can go relocate elsewhere.
ninjabot: omg I can't believe you're saying Zionists should be killed!!
First off, I love that you chose not to answer his question and instead changed the subject. That's extremely telling.

Secondly, this is what you said:

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I hope we see Israel's downfall, and every single Zionist punished one way or another, while Palestinians, including Hamas, finally get peace and stability in Palestine. It's sad the way the west is letting a genocide happen.
How the hell do you think a nation falls without the murder of millions? Not to mention my contention is that the majority of Israel is Zionist. It's specifically why I never say Hamas supporters should die along with Hamas; because the majority of Palistine supports Hamas, including innocent civilians.
 

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How the hell do you think a nation falls without the murder of millions?
It's not a nation, it's a terror organization with millions of poeple conditioned to be racist jewish supremacists who considers everyone else animals. They can be expelled without being killed. The majority of palestinians who were expelled from their homes and had their lands stolen in 1948 didn't die after all. So why not considering israeli citizens are criminals anyway for chosing to live and contribiute to a terror state with pride and reconnaissance and they live in "stolen" land after all. Justice can only be done if they are expelled to their original countries for the very least.
And I'm not even talking about the settlers in west bank who easily deserve a lifetime in prison.
 

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That's like arguing nazi germany wasn't a nation. None of the things you mention is mutually exclusive with being a nation or not. Even if they are a terrorist organization and hitler times vader times satan times a pedophile times and whatever else you can cram in there, you know, they have nuclear weapons. In what reality can someone displace a nuclear power from land, stolen or otherwise?
 

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Now that's some nazi shit.
I know YOU of all people are not saying something is Nazi shit when you're the one that's okay with cops attacking peaceful protesters with excessive violence.

Yeah, you totally didn't...
I don't know if you're doing this on purpose or not, but how did I accuse you of saying the police isn't acting against teachers?



First off, I love that you chose not to answer his question and instead changed the subject. That's extremely telling.

Secondly, this is what you said:



How the hell do you think a nation falls without the murder of millions? Not to mention my contention is that the majority of Israel is Zionist. It's specifically why I never say Hamas supporters should die along with Hamas; because the majority of Palistine supports Hamas, including innocent civilians.
Yes because I don't care for kick to keep deliberately being ignorant.

Nowhere in there did I say Zionists should be killed. You put words in my mouth and continue to do so despite me repeatedly saying they can be relocated elsewhere. This is an example of why I didn't answer kick's question, and why I'm just not going to bother answering yours. Gets twisted to what you want, words get put in my mouth, etc etc.

Hamas should not die just because they're resisting a genocidal army. But also I'm not taking anyone's criticism of Hamas seriously when they repeatedly show that they know nothing about Hamas and go by Israel's lies. Do you have anything to say about Israel bombing Rafah? Them killing innocent civilians deliberately and then claiming it was an accident? Palestinians shared pictures of babies beheaded by Israeli bombs, as well as their burned bodies, but the media and I think even Biden have barely talked about that, while they were very loud when Israel lied about Hamas beheading babies... without proof.


Also unlike what Israel have been doing to Palestinians for over 7 decades, at least Zionists are allowed to relocate and live. I don't know how long ago I said that, but I actually want them all to be jailed and even hanged for their crimes against humanity (let me know if I have to make the bolded part more clear to avoid you twisting it or acting as if I want all Zionists to be hanged). Seeing the pictures of the damage they've done, people they've tortured, and the people they've killed, and all without remorse... they're deranged and so fucked up.

The wild thing is that even Israeli Jews and Jews who support Palestine are not immune to Zionists' violence and anger, but somehow criticizing Zionists is anti-Semitic and not them attacking Jews.
 

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That's like arguing nazi germany wasn't a nation.
Nothing alike, not even close, Germans are indigenous people to the land and weren't kicked out from their homes to be replaced by invaders.
What you currently call isreali citizens are invaders who live in stolen lands and have pride in that (many are openly proud for killing palestinians for instance). Which makes them into criminals who should be expelled to their original countries and judged for their crimes.
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In what reality can someone displace a nuclear power from land, stolen or otherwise?
Idk, maybe if every country in the world boycots every trade route and any kind of economic relashionship with Israel until it's emptied from the invaders ? It's not like exchanging nuclear nukes is the only way. Arming palestians to the teeth and giving them a solid army to wipe out IOF from within is also an option since they wouldn't drop a nuclear bomb where the so called "innocent" israeli citizens and themselves reside.
 
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Nothing alike, not even close, Germans are indigenous people to the land and weren't kicked out from their homes to be replaced by invaders.
What you currently call isreali citizens are invaders who live in stolen lands and have pride in that (many are openly proud for killing palestinians for instance). Which makes them into criminals who should be expelled to their original countries and judged for their crimes.
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Idk, maybe if every country in the world boycots every trade route and any kind of economic relashionship with Israel until it's emptied from the invaders ? It's not like exchanging nuclear nukes is the only way. Arming palestians to the teeth and giving them a solid army to wipe out IOF from within is also an option since they wouldn't drop a nuclear bomb where the so called "innocent" israeli citizens and themselves reside.
It's an entirely made up criteria that being indigenous or not makes you less of real country.

In any universe where that isn't laughable impossible every zionist already got headshoted by magical pennies from space. Israel has functioning government (however vile), diplomatic relations with almost everyone... The countries they don't have diplomatic ties with aren't even helpful in making israel look bad over it, in some cases even the opposite. They have one of the most advanced militaries in the world (obviously it's not huge though, it's still a small country), one that actually provides military support and training to militaries of other countries. Let alone actual commerce between israel and other countries. Jews also have rather tight communities in pretty much every country which also support israel in a variety of ways as far as I know.

Who has any motivation and capacity to give palestine a modern army and the appetite to displace nearly 10 million israelites? As far as I can tell literally no one. Even if something this insanely absurd existed it'd take years to both arm and train them. There's zero chances of israel just standing by as that happens. A geopolitical shift that would give any of these fantasies the tiniest chance of happening is decades away.
 

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Who has any motivation and capacity to give palestine a modern army and the appetite to displace nearly 10 million israelites? As far as I can tell literally no one.
In terms of motivation, at least 2 Billion+ muslims in the world want the paria state gone. Now, as long as they remain divided into tiny micro-countries with zionist leaders (like Sissi, Mahmoud Abass, etc) and the population remains politically inactive, without a major revolution, things will certainly remain the same. But muslim countries as a whole easily have the resources and capacity to turn israel and its psychopathic populace into a living hell. The US certainly won't start wars with 57 countries in different continents at the same time.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, south africa's apartheide regime was done by a major embargo throughout the world.

PS: it's just 7 million israeli, 500K at least left the country since october 7th. Israel is also the country with the highest rate of dual citizenship in the world. Said in other words, the israelis are ready to run away at any moment if things turn bad.
 
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In terms of motivation, at least 2 Billion+ muslims in the world want the paria state gone. Now, as long as they remain divided into tiny micro-countries with zionist leaders (like Sissi, Mahmoud Abass, etc) and the population remains politically inactive, without a major revolution, things will certainly remain the same. But muslim countries as a whole easily have the resources and capacity to turn israel and its psychopathic populace into a living hell. The US certainly won't start wars with 57 countries in different continents at the same time.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, south africa's apartheide regime was done by a major embargo throughout the world.

PS: it's just 7 million israeli, 500K at least left the country since october 7th. Israel is also the country with the highest rate of dual citizenship in the world. Said in other words, the israelis are ready to run away at any moment if things turn bad.
Or, you know, into non fantasy terms a bunch of mostly third world countries won't start a war with israel, a nuclear power, that is allied with both US, EU and the rest of their allies over palestinians they mostly don't care THAT much about. There's muslim populations in EU and US but we are at least decades away from them having the capacity to move the politics at play here.

Even if that framing was accurate, it's pretty unlikely israel won't carpet bomb what's left of palestine if they smell a threat of that magnitude. If someone were to even try to arm palestinians to a tenth of the level you are fantasizing about you'd have israel's allies calling BS. You think there's any chance either israel or the US will let that many weapons and training get into palestine? Not within the next several decades at least.
 

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Or, you know, into non fantasy terms a bunch of mostly third world countries won't start a war with israel, a nuclear power, that is allied with both US, EU and the rest of their allies over palestinians they mostly don't care THAT much about. There's muslim populations in EU and US but we are at least decades away from them having the capacity to move the politics at play here.

Even if that framing was accurate, it's pretty unlikely israel won't carpet bomb what's left of palestine if they smell a threat of that magnitude. If someone were to even try to arm palestinians to a tenth of the level you are fantasizing about you'd have israel's allies calling BS. You think there's any chance either israel or the US will let that many weapons and training get into palestine? Not within the next several decades at least.
The situation is pretty much comparable to when the cursaders invaded palestine and nearby areas. It ended up with them being defeated and expelled after the surrounding micro-states got united into a single powerful empire again.
 
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