If redistributing wealth is seen as "centrist" by the majority of people nowadays, then we're pretty damn lost as a nation.
There is no instance of him "defending racism". He said he was willing to meet with him because thinks we need to be "more forgiving and less punitive". If he was "defending" Gillis he would have made excuses for what he said and he didn't do that, he did the opposite.Yeah, and I'm trying to remember if there's any more such instances. He seems to be centrist enough
Alaska has it in effect. There have been "experiments" with it in the past in other states as well.universal basic income is something which is being discussed but it hasn't been applied anywhere yet.
If it was years ago, and the person changed since then, then yeah I agree, but otherwise we need to be harsher towards racists.There is no instance of him "defending racism". He said he was willing to meet with him because thinks we need to be "more forgiving and less punitive". If he was "defending" Gillis he would have made excuses for what he said and he didn't do that, he did the opposite.
Harsher how exactly? He lost his job, no one is defending his actions. Having a conversation with someone directly affected by his comments can be way more constructive than anything else.If it was years ago, and the person changed since then, then yeah I agree, but otherwise we need to be harsher towards racists.
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As for the impeachment going through.... personally I don't think democrats will succeed. Either through their own incompetence or through the senate simply taking trump's side. McConnell has even said he is working with the white house...So, be honest with me y'all. Is this impeachment even going to succeed? I mean, I could see this working if the Senate composition was tighter, but considering how he's effectively brainwashed and scared the GOP to fall in line, I don't see this happening. Like, what is even the point for Dems to go through this? If this is a way to undermine him in 2020 elections, I don't really see any upsides to this situation.
Except at this point the GOP has already thrown out any sort of decency and sold their souls. The impeachment process doesn't even seem to affect theirs and Trumpty's re-election chances either, and that's without getting Russia involved. It'd basically take someone to get Trumpty to gloat about how dumb his supporters are on the record to get him kicked out.As for the impeachment going through.... personally I don't think democrats will succeed. Either through their own incompetence or through the senate simply taking trump's side. McConnell has even said he is working with the white house...
As for the point of this... At this point it's just basic decency. During the house investigations you had a dozen trump staffers testifying under that to the best of their knowledge trump withheld aid to ukraine because he wanted to get the biden investigation out of them. Add to that trump ordering people not to comply with subpoenas and those people not complying with those in spite of the fact that in the past people have done jail time for not complying with subpoenas before.
But... what's the alternative? To not do anything? I would argue the healthier thing to do here is to not think about this in terms of whether trump actually gets impeached and then kicked out or in terms of elections. Both of them are important but in a different context from that of a trial where the issue should be a legal process and the substance that is brought up. The validity of a trial of any type doesn't depend on there being exclusively guilty verdicts. Add to that this being a political trial...Except at this point the GOP has already thrown out any sort of decency and sold their souls. The impeachment process doesn't even seem to affect theirs and Trumpty's re-election chances either, and that's without getting Russia involved. It'd basically take someone to get Trumpty to gloat about how dumb his supporters are on the record to get him kicked out.
It'll fail, and Trump will get away with his lying, bullshit ways because the republicans don't give a shit about the country, they just want to have power. If anything, this could get Trump more votes from those who didn't even support him initially. It did cause a Democrat to switch sides.So, be honest with me y'all. Is this impeachment even going to succeed? I mean, I could see this working if the Senate composition was tighter, but considering how he's effectively brainwashed and scared the GOP to fall in line, I don't see this happening. Like, what is even the point for Dems to go through this? If this is a way to undermine him in 2020 elections, I don't really see any upsides to this situation.
If I get what you're saying, then all this amounts to is trying to get a moral victory out of this? Moral victories rarely mean anything in politics nowadays.But... what's the alternative? To not do anything? I would argue the healthier thing to do here is to not think about this in terms of whether trump actually gets impeached and then kicked out or in terms of elections. Both of them are important but in a different context from that of a trial where the issue should be a legal process and the substance that is brought up. The validity of a trial of any type doesn't depend on there being exclusively guilty verdicts. Add to that this being a political trial...
Trump has already gloated about how stupid his supporters are. Like when he said he could shot someone on fifth avenue and he wouldn't lose a vote... Or when he said his supporters cared about locking hillary up during the election but not after...
No, not a moral victory. They should do it simply because its the correct and decent thing to do. What's the alternative? To let a crime slide simply because they are afraid of what the opposing party will think? That's absurd, cowardly and plainly wrong. If democrats genuinely believe that trump genuinely tried to extort ukraine then they simply can't wait until the timing is convenient, they have to proceed in the moment... Can you imagine the whistleblower complaint coming out and democrats not acting on it? That's absurd.If I get what you're saying, then all this amounts to is trying to get a moral victory out of this? Moral victories rarely mean anything in politics nowadays.
My beef with the whole thing is, the Dems should know better than anyone else after the Clinton scandal the timing just wasn't going to work. The best strategy they could've executed was to keep playing dumb until next year, and once the impeachment process goes underway midway through next year, that could end up in huge voter turnouts for both the Senate and Representatives going the Democrats' way.
It wouldn't matter if Trumpty won, because as soon as he is sworn into office, the legislative branch can impeach him.