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He's okay with the grabbing pussy part. Republicans are okay with their own people doing horrible things and committing crimes, they just don't like it when other groups like immigrants or Democrats do it. Democrats know they can't get away with it with their voter base, thanks to social media making that obvious, so they're more likely to hold their own accountable, whether or not they actually mean to.
 

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sniffing vs grabbing by the pussy... what do you say about that?



Its already been said.

:toc


He's okay with the grabbing pussy part. Republicans are okay with their own people doing horrible things and committing crimes, they just don't like it when other groups like immigrants or Democrats do it. Democrats know they can't get away with it with their voter base, thanks to social media making that obvious, so they're more likely to hold their own accountable, whether or not they actually mean to.

M3J: "Democrats and antifa know they could never get away with burning and looting american cities. Their voter base is too woke for that."

You're a true believer.
 
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Antifa is not a thing, and most centrist Dems have condemned the rioting and looting even though it's mostly been done by undercover cops and white rioters who have nothing to do with the protests. Your logic is horrendous.

Anyway, that aside, the funny thing about REpublicans crying fraud is that Republicans have won seats in Senate and House, especially McConnell. If Dems were really committing fraud, then why would they let McConnell win?
 

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Antifa is not a thing, and most centrist Dems have condemned the rioting and looting even though it's mostly been done by undercover cops and white rioters who have nothing to do with the protests. Your logic is horrendous.

Anyway, that aside, the funny thing about REpublicans crying fraud is that Republicans have won seats in Senate and House, especially McConnell. If Dems were really committing fraud, then why would they let McConnell win?



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Even snopes says democrats and Biden bailing out antifa rioters/looters is true.
 

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He's okay with the grabbing pussy part. Republicans are okay with their own people doing horrible things and committing crimes, they just don't like it when other groups like immigrants or Democrats do it. Democrats know they can't get away with it with their voter base, thanks to social media making that obvious, so they're more likely to hold their own accountable, whether or not they actually mean to.
The point is, if you are OK with that, why would you complain about the sniffing?


Its already been said.

:toc





M3J: "Democrats and antifa know they could never get away with burning and looting american cities. Their voter base is too woke for that."

You're a true believer.
Same applies here unless you think Biden is a pussy... even then, your original point is still invalid. So you are either a troll, or countered your own post... which one is it?
 

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The Federalist seems like a bullshit source. You also contradicted yourself because the same article you linked said his staffers paid to bail out the protesters, not Biden. This is a boring argument, when there is proof from first sources themselves that the BLM protesters and rioters were not associated with each other.
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The point is, if you are OK with that, why would you complain about the sniffing?
Because the point is, Trump supporters/Republicans are okay with their own people doing horrible things or don't care, but they will point out even minor issues from opposition just to make them look bad.
 

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Same applies here unless you think Biden is a pussy... even then, your original point is still invalid. So you are either a troll, or countered your own post... which one is it?

Is Trump grabbing pussies in a consensual relationship.

The same as Biden unconsensually sniffing random ppl off the street.

Don't think about it too hard, guy.

:toc
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

The Federalist seems like a bullshit source.

My cult leader said...

Cult leader: "Breitbart and fox news can never be right."
Cult leader: "CNN can never be wrong."

What did your cult leader say? And why did you believe them?

:toc
 

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Unlike you, buddy boy, I know how to fact check, and that's how I can tell if sources are good or not. Not to mention, thanks to past experiences it's an automatic distrust of anything the right says, and so far I've yet to be proven wrong. :)
 

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Do ppl really want antifa, democrats and Joe Biden running the country? ^
 

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Do ppl really want antifa, democrats and Joe Biden running the country? ^
Yes
 

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Do ppl really want antifa, democrats and Joe Biden running the country? ^
Nah, I am pretty sure the 78 mil million people who voted for biden did it ironically.
 

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It's just hilarious to me that people think Antifa has taken over the DNC when they're corporatist hacks who habitually work against progressive candidates and blocked the most popular candidate from getting the nomination 2 elections in a row. The DNC is more interested in slobbering over Lincoln Project Republicans than they are anyone within their own party.

If the Biden-Socialist narrative wasn't so god damn funny it would be infuriating.
 

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Do ppl really want antifa, democrats and Joe Biden running the country? ^
ah, typical right wing bs. Ignore the violence from their side, whine about the "violence" from the other side. ONe good thing about Trump saying shit like this is that you know there's more to it, and that he's likely not being honest or completely truthful.
 

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It's just hilarious to me that people think Antifa has taken over the DNC when they're corporatist hacks who habitually work against progressive candidates and blocked the most popular candidate from getting the nomination 2 elections in a row. The DNC is more interested in slobbering over Lincoln Project Republicans than they are anyone within their own party.

If the Biden-Socialist narrative wasn't so god damn funny it would be infuriating.
I think it was smart by Biden to cater to the blue leaning republicans. Like that, even among republicans they 'biden is controlled by antifa' narrative didnt work as well as it could have.
I also think he should start catering at least a little bit to the left right now, or at least very soon.

He is in an impossible situation. He is a centrist who wants to keep the left wing and the right wing relatively happy. I don't envy him.
 

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I think it was smart by Biden to cater to the blue leaning republicans. Like that, even among republicans they 'biden is controlled by antifa' narrative didnt work as well as it could have.
I also think he should start catering at least a little bit to the left right now, or at least very soon.

He is in an impossible situation. He is a centrist who wants to keep the left wing and the right wing relatively happy. I don't envy him.
That narrative would have never worked. Who would it cater to? There are no moderate republicans for democrats to cater to. just look at the Lincoln project and how utterly ineffective they were at changing the republican party's mind. The entirety of it still voted trump and biden only won by a hair.

Nah, biden is a corporate hack who wants the party's left wing to sing him songs and praises over him not being trump. Which is far away from even the bare minimum... And biden will join the republican party while president of the US before catering to the progressive wing now that he is president. If he didn't cater to them before then now he doesn't even need them, he is already president. Heck, biden in his own brand of hillary-esk idiocy ran on working with republicans. Meaning he has placed himself in a situation where he is to some extent accountable to them while at the same time the republican party will never under any circumstances make concessions to him.
 

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That narrative would have never worked. Who would it cater to? There are no moderate republicans for democrats to cater to. just look at the Lincoln project and how utterly ineffective they were at changing the republican party's mind. The entirety of it still voted trump and biden only won by a hair.

Nah, biden is a corporate hack who wants the party's left wing to sing him songs and praises over him not being trump. Which is far away from even the bare minimum... And biden will join the republican party while president of the US before catering to the progressive wing now that he is president. If he didn't cater to them before then now he doesn't even need them, he is already president. Heck, biden in his own brand of hillary-esk idiocy ran on working with republicans. Meaning he has placed himself in a situation where he is to some extent accountable to them while at the same time the republican party will never under any circumstances make concessions to him.
I mean, it did work.

Biden won the election and he won by getting more white and old voters who would usually vote republican than Clinton did. He could have instead catered to the left, but I don't think that would have worked. Even if they all wanted to vote for him (and most of those who were registered did), voter suppression would not enable biden to win with just the youth vote.
Just like sanders could not win against clinton or Biden.

I think it is pretty unfair to call Biden a coprorate hack or whatever. Biden first and foremost has the aim to get the country back to at leas the smallest consensus. In his opinion (and mine too) it would be counterproductive to embrace stuff like defund the police or far left leaning tax plans right now or before the election.

The republican propaganda DID work a lot. Just not with Biden. It worked and almost lost democrats a house win, even tho they outspent their republican opponents.
It just didnt work with biden because he avoided the left the best way he could.

Biden already did a lot of things right, but his task is very, very hard. Especially should georgia not get two blue senators. Because in that case, republicans have a say about his cabinet.
 

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Biden does not care about the left. Corps and Centrists, sure, but he does not like the left, even. He, like most Democrats, don't support defunding or abolishing the cops, and he's made that clear when he could have just been a bit ambiguous about it. Biden didn't need to cater to just the left, just promise to consider some things or lie about some things to get their support.

Trump was going to accuse Biden of being socialist one way or another, so it doesn't matter.
 

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I mean, no sane person should support abolishing the cops. That's just absurd. Defunding the police makes sense in context (which is demilitarizing the police, retraining them and redirect money to other social services). But yeah, biden isn't likely to get behind any version of this.
 

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Defunding the police doesn't make sense, and they've proven they can't be reformed. Hell, when Trump supporters/white supremacists lose their shit, the cops don't do anything about it like they do with BLM protesters who aren't doing anything bad. Abolishing is better.
 

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I mean, it did work.

Biden won the election and he won by getting more white and old voters who would usually vote republican than Clinton did. He could have instead catered to the left, but I don't think that would have worked. Even if they all wanted to vote for him (and most of those who were registered did), voter suppression would not enable biden to win with just the youth vote.
Just like sanders could not win against clinton or Biden.

I think it is pretty unfair to call Biden a coprorate hack or whatever. Biden first and foremost has the aim to get the country back to at leas the smallest consensus. In his opinion (and mine too) it would be counterproductive to embrace stuff like defund the police or far left leaning tax plans right now or before the election.

The republican propaganda DID work a lot. Just not with Biden. It worked and almost lost democrats a house win, even tho they outspent their republican opponents.
It just didnt work with biden because he avoided the left the best way he could.

Biden already did a lot of things right, but his task is very, very hard. Especially should georgia not get two blue senators. Because in that case, republicans have a say about his cabinet.
Biden won the election but that doesn't mean he actually succeeded in getting votes from republicans... people showed up to vote in droves, you have historic turnout. republicans in general also showed up in historic numbers to support trump.

Biden is without an iota of a hack a corporate hack. The label is fair and well earned through every single day and through most positions he has ever taken. Biden is the "nothing will fundamentally change" candidate. That smallest consensus you mention biden should aim for.... Not gonna happen, it can't happen. It's not where the country is at. Biden right now is essentially running without an agenda and as such his success chances exist as much as his agenda. Biden could get the US back on track on the international stage, rebuild alliance and such. And that would be immensely important. But to people living in the US that means jack shit. Just like it meant jack shit when they elected trump in spite of the incredible effectiveness of the strategy against ISIS at the time (on which trump piggybagged) and even the iran deal, an actual diplomatic solution to at least several issues with iran.

I will also add that the reason biden doesn't get behind defunding the police isn't because its politically inconvenient. It's because he doesn't believe the police needs reforming.
 
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