Re: Laxus Dreyar Thread
Future Rogue's timeline didn't have any dragons pass through the eclipse gate. In his timeline, there was only one dragon which ruled the world. That same Dragon killed Natsu and Frosch as well as others, and that Dragon was Acnologia. The timeline we currently have is exactly the same as Future Rogue's minus Future Rogue appearing in this timeline and releasing some dragons, and the only other difference in timelines is that Frosch didn't die via Gray's hand when he was in Avatar this time.
Given this, its entirely plausible that Future Rogue, much like the events in this timeline, fought Mard Geer in the battle of Tartarus.
I was wrong about that.
Basically he said in the 7 years, dragons ruled the world, but Acnologia didn't rule the world until the year of X798
Future Rogue may have lied because he wanted Lucy to open the Eclipse Gate. Whether he lied or not is not my problem.
In Future Rogue's timeline, Sting died since Future Rogue killed Future Sting for his magic. The current and future timelines don't correspond to each other and may not have transpired the same way, Utear already made sure of that when she turned back time to revive the people that were supposed to have died in the future of the current timeline
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The manga doesn't say anything about draining magic. I've actually went out of my way and looked into the anime. It says life force, not magic. Deliora doesn't even use magic. He would be using curses. However, fine, I'll give you the point that Ur's ice can slowly drain its target's life force.
That still doesn't make Deliora that impressive. Put it into context. Atlas Flame was already dead. He would have only been a fraction of what he was when he was living, especially after being weakened further by SIlver's ice. Yet he was still able to gather enough power to thaw the entire village after being restored by a bit of Natsu's fire. The other dragons survived 400 years without a soul. They were half dead and were still capable of tearing up Ishgar's super-weapon. Igneel was even able to go toe to toe with Acnologia. I don't see why we should believe that Deliora was impressive because he died after being trapped 10 years in ice. If Deliora was truly as strong as you said he was then he should be flying around continents within seconds or leaving behind ghosts whose magic can effect entire towns. Instead, he fell apart after raising his arm. We're supposed to put him on par with dragons because of that?
By the way, Ur draining the life force is the same thing as magic power. When a person's magical power depletes to 0 they die. You don't have to tell me what the manga and wikia says. I already know for a fact. I'm not a fanboy of Gray, but I am a Gray fan. Trust me, I know Gray and his magic capabilities, both Ice-Make Magic, Ice Magic, and Ice Devil Slaying Magic.
I'm not going to argue with you. Twist it all you like, but it is common sense that if Deliora was alive and strong before Iced Shell, but was dying or dead afterwards, it means his magic energy was zapped. Deliora didn't die from old age or it woulda said so and the cold did not affect Deliora or he would be a dumbass to wander around the northern continent.
Idc to talk about Atlas Flame because he isn't impressive, but be my guest and ramble on about him. For the last time, Deliora died after lifting his arm because he was already a dead corpse. Atlas Flame woulda died the same if he was encased in Iced Shell. Atlas Flame's performance in Sun Village was pitiful and Gray bailed him out.
If anything, Gray gets the credit and Atlas Flame can go about his own ways. Deliora took more action than Atlas Flame and proved himself a worthy opponent for a person on a TWS level, Ur.
Deliora who could not be beaten but only sealed is a great feat, he has proved himself and honorary and worthy opponent. Atlas Flame died and became a ghost like Zirconis. I don't see how there is any competition here.
Again, I'll ask you the question, do you have any proof how Atlas Flame or the dragons are stronger than Deliora? There are no feats and both of us are pure speculating. I have my opinions, but to say that Deliora is an old giant that was pathetic enough to raise his arm before dying takes a lot of guts.
Whether you like the spell Iced shell or not or agree with it or not is your choice. A lot people call it OP, but to deny it of its properties is plain annoying. I can deny that END is strong and say END would bow down to Gray. How does that seem fair? I give credit to the people who deserve it, simple as that
