The powerup gray got after after juvia death is pof.
The difference was stated to be twice as strong. Hax is plot based. Mest can easily fuk up brandish but brandish cant do crap to enhanced nienhart.
How the hell is gajeel stronger than aria.
Is statement above feats now. Is gmg sting stronger than aconologia?
Because if i remember clearly, blinded aria, which also magically holding back was no diffing natsu. And i dont remember gajeel one shotting natsu. So how the hell is gejeel is stronger than full powered aria.
And wrecked erza one shotted non blinded aria with a mid tier attack.
But apparently you think she is equal natsu lol.
I mean erza one shotted aria, needed three os memeber to take out, while gray and natsu and three other fodders got blitz by racer alone. And huge amount portrayal, but no erza is pretty much around natsu level. One guy said something. And suddenly their is a tier gap beteen erza ans laxus lol just lol
how bias can one get.
The first task in s class exams wasnt lissana + juvia vs s class mage. It was s class contestant with non s class mage helping fighting off an s class mage while the s class mage was supposed to hold back
How is jura hype of beating erza and mira solid. Has laxus ever beaten erza and mira together. Hell he never even beatun them alone. laxus was never said to be stronger than erza let alone far stronger.
No mishma showed us laxus casually blocking erza physical attack and erza easily blocking by laxus point blank magical attack
Your entire argument is based on gray saying this right?
And laxus after training taking a fodder guild who has no hype and has best feat of needed help to take out lucy. Right?
I dont even know how that compares to pandemonium where s class monster alone was supposed to give jura difficulty, erza took that monster out alone with 99 other monster without SO. Yes, erza without training did that, erza used her powerup only at the end. While laxus used it through out.
And finally what gray once said. And of course people had brushed it under the carpet and forgetten about it
Look up chapter 89 page 5, where gray clearly says
"i cant imagine anyone actually beating erza if she goes all out"
This is the guy who knew markarov, gildarts, laxus, who thought natsu will get himself killed if he fought erza. This is guy we have to agree to. Or some other person who never seen jura use magic and hasnt seen erza fight for a long time. Just lol.
But i suppose all that things wont matter to you, like a bias a person, you will twist everything to meet your preconceived notion or whatever.
Look up chapter 500 page page 15 gray breaks of invel armor with pure strength (page 14 gray cracking up). Look up next page pg 16, as he starts molding, ice starts forming on his arm and you can actually see molding and invel also mentions it.
thanks for proving how bias you are
I mean you need only one or two statements to see erza is tier below laxus
But two or three feats along with dozen of hype doesnt apparently make erza even little bit stronger than natsu lol
Uhuh, and i totally didnt see you say on another thread that Erza is far above Natsu and Gray?
And twice as strong somehow means Kyoka>Mard Geer? I suppose you are also gonna tell me Mest>Brandish. I dont see how this is even a debate, Mard Geer is leagues ahead of Kyoka, but since you want to get into it with those trading cards(far from a statement of their strength) then i guess i'll explain through them why Erza beating Kyoka doesnt mean she can beat Mard.
First off, you are wrong, Mard isnt twice as strong as Kyoka, his HP is almost
4 times hers, that means Erza would have to be capable of
beating Kyoka 4 times in a row in order to have a chance against Mard, now this alone is already impossible considering she collapsed in fatigue immediately after beating Kyoka, but i'll take it a few steps further anyway.
Mard's defense is also
over double Kyoka's, meaning Erza's attacks willl only have half the effect on Mard Geer that they had on Kyoka, which raises the amount of times Erza would have to beat Kyoka to
8 times in a row.
Mard Geer is also
twice as fast and twice as intelligent as Kyoka, effectively meaning only
half the attacks Erza landed on Kyoka would have landed on Mard Geer, raising again the amount of Kyoka's Erza would have to defeat to be on par with Mard to
16.
Now let us move onto offense, Mard has
over double the attack power, curse power and speed, meaning that Mard would hit Erza harder and more often, which results in Erza reaching the point of exhaustion she did after her fight with Kyoka(couldnt even land the killing blow herself),
at minimum twice as fast as when she fought Kyoka, which of course means Erza could at most do
half a Kyoka's worth of damage to Mard Geer before collapsing, and since Mard Geer is already worth minimum 16 Kyoka's endurance-wise,
Erza can at most take 1/32 of Mard Geer's health, now we can add the advantage of not being blind and deaf, maybe increase that number to 1/30 of Mard's health Erza can take if we want to be extremely generous(especially since we have seen that
an Erza who wasnt blind and deaf couldnt perform any better than one who was).
So there you have it, Erza can take less than %5 of Mard Geer's health, Yaaay!!! Good effort Erza!! You tried your best.
How the hell is Gajeel not stronger than Aria? He was the second in command after Jose, and the final boss that the "brats" had to deal with, plus both Erza and Jose said Gajeel was Phantom's strongest S class wizard, sooo thats how it is, Gajeel is number 1(in Phantom) thats canon.
Was GMG Sting stated to be above Acnologia?
Well first off this is early Fairy Tail where wind>fire, secondly Natsu wasnt angry against Aria, and still had untapped power he wasnt using, Erza gave Natsu an inspiring speech about releasing it and him being the one to surpass her, Natsu's strength went up after that.
Not nearly as bias as you seem to have gotten, mister im gonna try and hype Erza by saying Mard<Kyoka lol.
Uhuh, and the strongest team was Gray and Loke, Gray+Loke<<Gajeel+Natsu, Natsu also charged at Erza with Happy alone.
It is solid because it wasnt disproved, Jura's power didnt decrease by losing to Laxus, Laxus simply surpassed his hype, doesnt remove all other statements of Jura's power, do i really need to explain that?
Not my entire argument, but Gray's statement is simpler to argue so i generally like to go with that, yeah.
Raven Tail was only fodder because they went up against Laxus, they've had hype since early Fairy Tail.
An off panel high diff battle with 99 monsters and 1 monster said to give a wizard saint a high diff battle, Erza was already wz tier pre skip.
Laxus used his training? He low diffed the lot of them, not really a great example.
Gray's statement about Erza was before Laxus, Gildarts and Mystogan became relevant in the manga and displayed their power, is also proven wrong by the fact that Erza couldnt beat Jose, a guy Gray knew, Gray's statement about Laxus and Gildarts is also more recent.
Nothing suggests that wasnt magic breaking it apart, doesnt make sense for his fist that was already stuck to Invel's arm just "pushed" Invel arm piece off.
Invel explained it afterwards sure, what was he supposed to do? Explain it before Gray broke the armor?
Uhuh, never mind the fact that Laxus has been portrayed thoughout the series as well above Erza, never mind the fact that Laxus did better against Hades than Erza and co combined, never mind the fact that the guy Erza couldnt beat alone(Azir) was hyped to be killed by Laxus with just one casual attack, never mind the fact that Laxus was able to beat a spriggan while handicapped twice over, while Erza wasnt able to beat one alone, never mind the fact that frickin'
Mashima himself acknowledged that Laxus was so powerful that it is difficult to write him into the story because he settles things immediately, so sure, go around calling everyone bias, why dont you just go on
making up feats for Erza, like you did with Mard and Kyoka lol, i'll stick to what the manga says and what the bloody author says