Gray has not been taken out in this arc at all, he has won every battle he was up against, so I'm not sure how you can safely say you know anything about Gray's durability considering he withstand ed every attack that was landed on him, and it would be silly to suggest a few of Natsu's attacks can take him out considering Gray's durability esp in DeS mode is very unknown at the moment.
You're assuming Gray has taken attacks that have been at the level that Natsu has been throwing out, which he hasn't. Gray's best feats this arc are beating a historia of Ul and making an ice rink out of Ajeel's sand monster. Durability wise, he hasn't shown much as he's been hit with ice attacks, something he should resist thanks to his Devil Slayer magic so it does not show a lot for his durability. Natsu on the other hand dishing out some powerful spells like the Demolition Fist in FDKM could be able to take Gray out with a few hits from spells of that level.
There's horologium... that can sense it when Lucy is in danger . And Lucy could continue her fight inside of horologium by summoning the spirit .
You have no proof that those attacks can take out Gray, and I have no proof that he can withstand those attacks. Because at this point in time, we have literally no idea to what Gray's current durability is right now. That's all I'm saying.
Horologium doesn't always save Lucy from danger. and those spirits she summons will be instant freezed as well, along with Horologium.
Let me put it to you like this: One FDK fist in FDKM would definitely be enough to one-shot a Spriggan like Jacob. I'm giving Gray the benefit of the doubt when I say he has better durability than that. I really don't think he could withstand more than two at the most, and he has no way to defend from these attacks as it would shatter his Ice Shield. Natsu with what he has shown really would beat Gray eventually. He's got the better strength, speed, versatility and durability feats. I really think that coming down to that, Natsu and Lucy win this fight.
Except, Jacob wasn't oneshotted by Natsu, he was landed multiple strikes froom other characters and took damage from them, that doesn't indicate Oneshot to me.. and just because Jacob is a spriggan level opponent doesn't mean he has impressive durability considering he hasn't shown to be a tank. So you're really not giving Gray any benefit of doubt here. I do agree that Natsu's team wins but it's mostly because of him, and it's a lot closer than you think. I'm pretty sure Gray has a higher defensive barriers in his arsenal than Ice shield btw. Natsu doesn't have better versatility also. Gray's intellect, versatility and portrayal makes this a high diff fight atleast against Base Natsu.
I mean sure,that's why Horologium showed up when Ajeel was about to kill them,right?
Doesn't change the facts that Horologium can sense when his owner is in danger , and could save her.... it's her magic .
You missed that point of my post. What I mean is that one FDKM FDK demolition fist would be more than enough to put Jacob away as the attacks landed on Jacob before did minimal damage. It was the one serious attack Natsu used against Jacob, and it put him away.
Well their attacks are really nothing to the level of attacks that FDKM Natsu would be throwing out, and I doubt Gray's durability which hasn't shown to have improved too much since then would last up too long. Its a pretty weak example there imo.
Um yeah Natsu would be pretty damn vulnerable to instant freeze, considering Silver demolished him, and instant freeze a curse/des spell would be very effective against half demons like Natsu.
You're now comparing Tartarus Natsu to Alvarez Natsu, and there is a huge gap between the two. Natsu now would be able to break out of the instafreeze due to the heat he can emit from his flames, and he's even shown he can shatter Gray's ice with ease (Avatar Arc). As for Natsu being "part-demon", there has been nothing to show that a slayer would have Slayer advantage against him, so I don't know why it'd be considered Gray would.
Jacob was not put away by FDKM Demolition fist. He was put away by a combination of Makarov's punch that lead Jacob vulnerable to a point that Natsu got opportunistic and gunned him down with Jacob getting off-guard. We saw how a guy like Gemma who took on DF Natsu punches get oneshotted by Sting, so being caught off-guard in this manga is pretty deadly.
Um, he shattered basic ice from a non-serious Gray, so let's not put too much emphasis on that.
Isn't gray is affected when he fight wahl proxy robot that use heat / fire based attack ....he even indirectly said that is his weakness.
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The difference is this was Base Gray, and they were all saving their magical reserves. Whether Demonized Gray is weak to Fire is another question entirely because from a full length context we have not seen Gray be all that weak to Fire when fully serious and in full power through feats. Gray struggled against Marde merely because of the flight and speed factor, and in comparision, we see Natsu being taken out by a Des spell. During the brief skirmish with Natsu in Avatar, Gray wasn't shown to be that much effected to fire, or previous flames thrown his way.Isn't gray is affected when he fight wahl proxy robot that use heat / fire based attack ....he even indirectly said that is his weakness.
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Even while gray fight a non fire demon like mard , he still struggle even though he is using the demon slaying magic.
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As if gray used entirely different magic when he change his form , he still used the same type of magic and therefore he had the same weakness .
His durability, enchancement and body endurance changes with excessive magical power, making him more demonized with the curse markings flowing through him so your point is rather irrelevant when it comes to elements as we are talking about how it effects the body as he was able to absorb or endure curses something that his base form can't do.. Natsu will still be damaged by ice.
Yes , I know that his endurance whatsoever is increased that is why I said natsu can change his form too . Absorb curse that is not his weakness.... we didn't know if he could do such things to his weakness . He will still be damaged by fire.