Discussion Sanji Discussion Thread

[M3J]

The only thing I do not currently like about Sanji's fights is that he has yet to show "Hardening"

His name is "Black Leg" Sanji for goodness sake. Come on Oda! It's not that hard to appease us fans lol

I ultimately feel Sanji is under utilized and underestimated quite a bit due to his perceived portrayal during WCI.

I thought he showed hardening - the Judge was even surprised that Sanji knew haki when he blocked his blade.

But Sanji's been underestimated ever since his fight with Vergo, which had no clear winner or advantage. WCI made it worse even though Sanji was one of the MVPs and saved the Straw Hats from going down when Luffy was busy getting his ass handed to him by Katakuri. Anyone who expected Sanji or is criticizing him for not drugging or poisoning the cake hasn't really read the manga or doesn't know shit about Sanji, given this is the same guy who willingly fed a crew who could have and did attack Baratie.

you said that sanji hasn't lose to anyone clean in a fight.
I gave you doflamingo . I never said doflamingo is a weakling

True, but bosses can't really count as they're normally reserved for the main character to beat. Plus, the fact is that Luffy would have been dead if it weren't for Gear 4. I even forgot about Doflamingo vs. Law, where Law lost to Doflamingo as well, and it took him and Luffy together to deal some sort of lasting damage to Doflamingo.

People can bring up Doflamingo, but that's actually a bullshit point against Sanji.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

What? Dude again you make no sense on what your saying. Sanji was handicapped when switch back to his body before going into a fight. It was clearly shown. Law's power affected him as he switch bodies with someone lol. Why Oda need to say it? It was clear as day just like you denying that Zoro can take Doflamingo despite he couldn't cut his strings, so what base you have on that as you have none at all.

combat handicaps in one piece mentioned explicitly through dialogues. Just like how franky mentioned how jack only gained upper hand against minks because he used the numbing gas.
Zoro could cut it , but he just decided to push it. This is the fact from manga , not from your imaginary idea.

His leg was fine dude after the fight, Zoro wasn't since he was still bleeding, don't you know logic, but your Zoro fan, so.....

A story of King Moe's logic :
"Hi Daniel! Why are you in hospital?"
"Yeah , I fell from my motorcycle and broke my legs"
"Wow so your legs are fine?"

Your really are a troll.

Why are you talking to yourself?

What? I never said that. I think your confusing yourself in your talk dude.

lol you are kinda not bright , aren't you. You said zoro was using more full power , but i don't see any ashura form , which is his full form.

You know one at a time, right? Got to learn to listen.

it has been an hour and you can't give reply to him? Sure, keep lying.



King Moe...more like King Biased

 

[King Moe]

give me post timeskip proof of zoro getting his bones broken. We are talking about post-time fight (comparison of sanji vs vergo).


no shit sherlock that bosses are reserved for main characters , but you claimed that sanji never lost clean in a fight. You just make another retcon for your initial argument.

Have to look for it, but I remember seeing it either pre-timeskip or post-timeskip for sure, but again it doesn't matter as bone breaking doesn't matter at all in the series, so not going to use it as fact, but just saying Oda been using the notion a lot lol.

 

[Franz]

I dropped out of it after realizing Ice King just has a different concept of Sanji than what's in the Manga. I mean, for example he thinks Sanji's love for cooking comes from his fasting experience with Zeff despite the fact that Sanji worked in a kitchen before and was dreaming about the holy grail of all cooks, the All Blue.

Too bad that's what the manga shows XD

The Sanji child of volume 7 did not know the value of food, he was a hub who wanted to find the All Blue and that was it, it was not important to know where the dream came from.

Thanks to the experience with Zeff he understands the importance of food and decide to feeds up everyone he meets, but again he does not do it because of goodness, simply because he knows on his skin what it feels like to fast and does not want others to repeat the his experience.

This shows us the manga.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Have to look for it, but I remember seeing it either pre-timeskip or post-timeskip for sure, but again it doesn't matter as bone breaking doesn't matter at all in the series, so not going to use it as fact, but just saying Oda been using the notion a lot lol.

so you can't give proof....... you should accept the L then. You claimed zoro had broken bones.
Also , still waiting for your answer to my two questions

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Broken Record Loro, your new name since you keep saying the same stuff despite my answers XD.

He use more power in his fight with Hawkins while Hawkins didn't use much from his idea and again yoru lives has no hold to it as if he was fearful about losing lives or something, I would agree with you, but he even took one against Law afterwards, so he show no emotion about, so again your not helping the case for Zoro when he was clearly disadvantage which you keep trying to make it look like he won a fight when he lost a fight still.

that doesn't answer my two questions for sanji vs vergo. Answer it

 

[Shasha23]

Weren't you the one who said Zoro has a chance to beat up the Commanders and fight Kaido despite him one-shotting Luffy? Shut up, Zoro-Brainer XD.

Sanji is one of Starwhats' Commander, so it's in his destiny to happen like that and again Vergo fight ended draw, so that old excuse is no long apparent, but Hawkins on Zoro is very apparent XD. Also you didnt' answer why he choose not to cut it. If not, then your really not factual at all.

Nice try, Troll Shasha, go read your Doujinshi you make of how OP is and keep trying to play with the factual people here.

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I have to look, dude. Don't you have patience? Apparently not cause your just like Zoro running off and no time to wait lol.

It did. Your not answering mine though.

Zoro will fight King and when did i say he will fight Kaido, lol this guy lol

LOL Sanji will beat a commander but cant even beat Judge LOL OK man

Do you know what PIS and CIS are, learned them and your intelligence regarding One Piece by Oda will improve by 40%
Stop teasing and give me link to One Piece by Sanjiwank please

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Still waiting for the zoro broken bones proof and answer to my vergo vs sanji questions , sanji npc

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Broken Record, come on now, your better than this....Wait, actually your not XD.

waiting for the proof , npc

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

remember when sanji couldn't get out of that room after he got captured in punk hazard (his kicks couldn't break the wall) , only for franky to casually destroyed the room with one shot ?

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

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That never happened

come back here after you have read punk hazard arc. There was this guy named vergo who broke sanji's legs also.

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despite the fact he should be prepared due to training with Mihawk, but not? Yeah, sad to see him that his worth is only fodder.

nah i don't remember zoro training with mihawk to resist sleeping gas
i do remember sanji trains his legs to run faster when he escaped from enemies

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

COO is there to predict things .

and sanji failed to predict it

 

[King Moe]

and sanji failed to predict it

Who was adjusting to Nami's body so it make sense to get hit and plus he doesn't want to use it for physical work out of her sake. Zoro was in his own body and still failed. So it's worse on his part than Sanji's.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Who was adjusting to Nami's body so it make sense to get hit and plus he doesn't want to use it for physical work out of her sake. Zoro was in his own body and still failed. So it's worse on his part than Sanji's.

nope, his CoO is still the same. He said that his CoO is the best amongst zoro and brook when he swammed searching for the kinemon body part.
So much for being good at CoO , he couldn't even notice two large dudes shooting sleeping gas.

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remember when sanji couldn't hurt doflamingo a bit even after doflamingo ignoring him after his first attack?

 

[King Moe]

Body isn't the same, so nope. You can see him having hard time adjusting when looking for Kinemon's body as he didn't want to bring much work and harm to Nami's body. Zoro was more 100% and still couldn't hack as much. So your argument isn't working much.

Nah he did hurt him, he even comment on him being strong and you can see annoyed look from Doflamingo before freezing with him strings. Wrong logic again xD.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Body isn't the same, so nope. You can see him having hard time adjusting when looking for Kinemon's body as he didn't want to bring much work and harm to Nami's body. Zoro was more 100% and still couldn't hack as much. So your argument isn't working much.

proof that he was adjusting? When did he say he 'adjusted' his CoO?
sanji was damaging nami's body when he used blue walk though. So much for not wanting to harm nami's body.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

nope , sanji was hurting nami's body with blue walk. Read the manga before you post here.

Thank god zoro was there during yeti brother attacks.
Without him , sanji would be dead from those spikes while they fall

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Nah, Sanji been on a role while Zoro been getting snubbed lately especially in Wano arc.

lmao his role is being a ramen seller
sanji has commoner clothes , while zoro has ronin clothes
ronin has higher class than commoner like cooks based on japan feudal era, in case you don't know.

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Nah he did hurt him, he even comment on him being strong and you can see annoyed look from Doflamingo before freezing with him strings. Wrong logic again xD.

nope , doflamingo wasn't even using CoA to defend against sanji.
G2 was weak for doflamingo while doflamingo was thrown away from G2 attacks. Doflamingo wasn't even moved a single bit from sanji attacks

 

[nik87]

but to put false facts

But thats exactly what you are doing. I just showed you proof that Zoro never tried to cut birdcage and you are still doing what broken record does.
Actually, you dont present any facts, you just exhale some hot air without anything to back it up. If you can present proof that in any moment Zoro tried to cut the Birdcage and failed then great, let us all see that moment. If you cant then sit the discussion out. You need proof to back your claims and you got none sadly, only trying to make look Zoro bad while at the same time you ruin Sanji's reputation.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

just like Usopp having highest bounty than Zoro when Doflamingo put out a bounty on the resistance.

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you mean like when usopp had higher bounty than sanji post-dressrosa?

 

[King Moe]

nope , sanji was hurting nami's body with blue walk. Read the manga before you post here.

Thank god zoro was there during yeti brother attacks.
Without him , sanji would be dead from those spikes while they fall

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lmao his role is being a ramen seller
sanji has commoner clothes , while zoro has ronin clothes
ronin has higher class than commoner like cooks based on japan feudal era, in case you don't know.

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nope , doflamingo wasn't even using CoA to defend against sanji.
G2 was weak for doflamingo while doflamingo was thrown away from G2 attacks. Doflamingo wasn't even moved a single bit from sanji attacks

Neither with Law much in most of their fight, so what your point? Luffy was the only one to put more challenge and Zoro couldn't come across in cutting his strings, so again him losing to Doflamingo means nothing at all. Doflamingo was annoyed by it though as he use his strings to paralyzed him, so you can't say he did nothing to him and take it like he wasn't mess with especially when he said Sanji is strong.

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you mean like when usopp had higher bounty than sanji post-dressrosa?

Sanji wasn't even in Dressrosa, what are you saying? Also you agree in Dressrosa it was Usopp dangerous than Zoro then? Thanks .

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Sanji wasn't even in Dressrosa, what are you saying? .

he got bountry increase though , and it's still lower than usopp

Also you agree in Dressrosa it was Usopp dangerous than Zoro then? Thanks .

the bounty price from doflamingo =/= official bounty
it was based on the effect what they did. Usopp was making the dressrosa panic with knocking out sugar.

The cool thing , though , is that zoro hadn't even do anything significant at that point and yet doflamingo gave 200,000,000 on his head?
Even doflamingo is careful when he is against zoro