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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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It's possible. After all, the reason why Sanji was good at CoO was to avoid all the okamas chasing him.
CoO only grows in critical situation. Unless you consider sanji getting chased by gifters is death threatening situation for him, then sanji won't improve his CoO
 

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CoO only grows in critical situation. Unless you consider sanji getting chased by gifters is death threatening situation for him, then sanji won't improve his CoO
Haki grows in critical situations. To use CoO Haki effectively, you need to be in a calm non emotional state.
 

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CoO only grows in critical situation. Unless you consider sanji getting chased by gifters is death threatening situation for him, then sanji won't improve his CoO
If black maria and her subordinates give sanji enough nose bleeds then he will definitely be in a critical situation...
 

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Just wondering what does people think what if back in punk hazzard when zoro and tashigi fight monet, let say sanji are in the room at the time and this happen=

1. what will he do when he see monet munching tashigi shoulder and zoro just stand still doing nothing? Will he interfere?
2. He saw zoro is about to cut monet and he doesnt know that zoro just wanted to give monet a "shock" attack, will he defend monet?

I'm not trying to bash sanji character here, i just wanted to know other people perspective about what do you guys think about what will sanji do if those situation happen in front of him..
 

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Just wondering what does people think what if back in punk hazzard when zoro and tashigi fight monet, let say sanji are in the room at the time and this happen=

1. what will he do when he see monet munching tashigi shoulder and zoro just stand still doing nothing? Will he interfere?
2. He saw zoro is about to cut monet and he doesnt know that zoro just wanted to give monet a "shock" attack, will he defend monet?

I'm not trying to bash sanji character here, i just wanted to know other people perspective about what do you guys think about what will sanji do if those situation happen in front of him..
He'd attack Zoro, if that's considered interfering, for letting Tashigi get hurt. Other than that, I'm not sure because Monet is a woman, and if she already bit Tashigi, it's not like Sanji could stop that or block it with his body.

Most likely, and it's not like he'll have a problem since he and Zoro have a rivalry and often fight each other anyway, even if out of gag.
 

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Well.. That's logical enough, he most likely will blame zoro instead.. But, i just remember, does anybody other than Nami know that sanji wont ever, like never ever will fight a woman and much rather die if he must hit a woman?
 

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I think all of the Straw Hats either know this or can deduce this. Hasn't Sanji shown tendency to protect women and do what he can for them? Would make sense that they'd think he wouldn't lay a hand on them either.
 

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All Strawhats are aware of it.
 

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Just wondering what does people think what if back in punk hazzard when zoro and tashigi fight monet, let say sanji are in the room at the time and this happen=

1. what will he do when he see monet munching tashigi shoulder and zoro just stand still doing nothing? Will he interfere?
2. He saw zoro is about to cut monet and he doesnt know that zoro just wanted to give monet a "shock" attack, will he defend monet?

I'm not trying to bash sanji character here, i just wanted to know other people perspective about what do you guys think about what will sanji do if those situation happen in front of him..
1. He most likely will kick Tashigi to save her from harm. Remember, he kicked his crewmates, including Nami, out of Bege's body to save them from harm.
2. No. As stupid as he is, he knows she's the enemy and while he won't kick her, he would let another attack her.
 

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I am not so sure that sanji would actually let another male hit a woman, even if she is an enemy. Sure, brook might be about to take on BM alongside robin but I doubt that sanji leaving necessarily means he is ok with brook doing that. Can't remember any instance in the manga where he has straight up let a male hit an enemy female at least. Most of the time oda rather consistently leaves female enemies to female strawhats at least.

On another note, I would argue that as of now sanji isn't a part of the monster trio anymore. And it will be that way until such a time as to when sanji proves beyond doubt he is stronger than jinbe.
 

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I am not so sure that sanji would actually let another male hit a woman, even if she is an enemy. Sure, brook might be about to take on BM alongside robin but I doubt that sanji leaving necessarily means he is ok with brook doing that. Can't remember any instance in the manga where he has straight up let a male hit an enemy female at least. Most of the time oda rather consistently leaves female enemies to female strawhats at least.
When Luffy punched Vivi, he got angry, but didn't interfered...

 

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When Luffy punched Vivi, he got angry, but didn't interfered...

Maybe its because in that moment luffy are already punch vivi so its already to late to stop it? But what about if he saw it when luffy are getting ready to punch her? I wont be surprised if he definitely try to stop it..
 

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When Luffy punched Vivi, he got angry, but didn't interfered...

To me that looks like sanji simply didn't get the chance to stop it rather than him being willing to let a woman get hit by another male. There is some wiggle room but given this I am inclined to thinking sanji actually would protect a female enemy from a friendly male...
 

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To me that looks like sanji simply didn't get the chance to stop it rather than him being willing to let a woman get hit by another male. There is some wiggle room but given this I am inclined to thinking sanji actually would protect a female enemy from a friendly male...
He let Tashigi fight Zoro even before knowing Zoro wont cut her, he even gave the OK in the plan to kill Linlin.
I think along as he himself is not doing it, I think Sanji wont stop a female from being killed even though he wont like it.
 

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The VIZ even makes Sanji more pathetic. He did defend with Armament Haki, but on realising she could be hurt, he chose to reduce its strength for her sake.

Seems like a choice, not that he can't. Either way, I'm done with Sanji, lol.
 

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Look with sanji , I think some fans would be good with sanji goofiness if it was balanced with how badass he was in pretty timeskip
Oda has turned up the Pervy side to 11 and dialed down the badass fighter and strategist down in the post timeskip
I’ve made peace with his role change and use in the time skip but I think it’s unfair that fans who complain are drowned out as haters and never having understood the character
Also sanji’s chivalry personally doesn’t work for me cause he peeps on women and never shown any interest of their ideas and dreams so far
Sanji was badass , he was mr prince , he was the hunter ( Jyabura) , he was the guy who figured things out quickly and faster and infiltrated the sea train , the guy who opened and closed the gates of justice as well as telling enel to drop dead and then destroying enels engine, he’s just been not that guy in the post time skip

Sanji's chilvary doesn't work because it's very surface level and childish , I keep reiterating making him a peeping pervert who hasn't shown any interest in any women's dreams and ideas makes it even lamer , this aspect of sanji sucks


You don’t even have to compare sanji to zoro for him to look not as impressive, he was just cooler and more impressive pre time skip , he’s just not that dude anymore
But I'm okay with it now
 
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You don’t even have to compare sanji to zoro for him to look not as impressive, he was just cooler and more impressive pre time skip , he’s just not that dude anymore
But I'm okay with it now
Well GrandLineReviews summarised Sanji perfectly in his latest video, the problem most of us had was that his rivalry with Zoro made us subconsciously compare them in a way that was bad on our part, for me as of now Sanji is just a chivalrous gentleman who is dialled up to 11 and takes his chivalry to the extreme. I really like Sanji as a character since he is more "human" like compared to Luffy and Zoro but the perviness is the problem we all have I think but I really respect the fact that even if it leads to his death he wont hurt a women, ill be the first to argue that this is a detriment in a shounen but the fact that Sanji sticks with it is very impressive.
We should view Sanji more in a comedic light and not as serious as before I think in order to appreciate him even more as a character, I mean didn't we all laugh at what he did and not only that but he is now about to kick some ass and take names which is so different from Zoro who is just a 1 dimensional character
 

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So what's going to happen if after all the damage he took, Sanji takes on his arc opponent and wins?
 

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So what's going to happen if after all the damage he took, Sanji takes on his arc opponent and wins?
It wouldn't be a shocker when he beats Jack since he is the 3rd strongest MC, given Sanji's abilities he should be able to beat jack and carry on fighting even after it, its normally Sanji's job to take care of everything since Luffy and Zoro don't think ahead and just jump into the fight, I expect Sanji to save Kinemon and the others and also ensure the alliance will be able to secure the win by shutting down CP-0
 

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It wouldn't be a shocker when he beats Jack since he is the 3rd strongest MC, given Sanji's abilities he should be able to beat jack and carry on fighting even after it, its normally Sanji's job to take care of everything since Luffy and Zoro don't think ahead and just jump into the fight, I expect Sanji to save Kinemon and the others and also ensure the alliance will be able to secure the win by shutting down CP-0
??? are you okay? Do have a fever? Covid? are you drunk? Or did you lose another bet?



Also, did Usopp and Franky have time to modify the suit? I know Sanji wanted the suit modified, I dunno if either had a chance though. Maybe that'll make a huge difference.
Also I just remembered he used it to protect himself against King, but I forgot if there's been any change. I don't think so though since I don't remember anyone talking about tha.t.
 
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