Discussion Spriggan 12 General Thread

[Kiki]

What I don't get is, why don't everyone in the guild building care about Ajeel? I mean, he is still there, lying around, somewhere in the city, right? What happens to Warren's radar? Ajeel could wake up anytime and be ready to fight again.

 

[reesestl]

I agree with Brandish on Jellal being really strong.
I don't get how Gray won't fight and Neinhart heading to FT both is possible. So, they went to the south to do a job, and came back without defeating he enemy an letting him head to the guild! How does that make sense. Gray wont fight only if the current fights are all won without help in the south.
I don't know why Mashima has made Makarov so useless. If he is past glory is resurrected in this arc, I would like that.
I am actually most interested in how to deal with Zeref. Would he just pull back if most of the Spriggan are lost? He can't be killed. Plus he has the contradiction curse, which was suppressed in ALvarez. Shouldn't getting closer to Natsu, Mavis make it effective again? He raised the Spriggan to defeat Fiore, then now he should do something contradictory to that.

Lucy is too so 3

U r right. I forgot. she also needs to be protected on top of everything.

 

[Ichibei]

What I don't get is, why don't everyone in the guild building care about Ajeel? I mean, he is still there, lying around, somewhere in the city, right? What happens to Warren's radar? Ajeel could wake up anytime and be ready to fight again.

Maybe we will see another fight with Ajeel although I wouldnt like that. What I think is if he stands up again that somebody will easily oneshot him. Imagine Ajeel appearing in front of the Guild, Gildartz standing behind him and knocking him off. lol

 

[Synn]

The Spriggans so far: August > Dimaria > the rest

 

[Damon blevins]

Dimaria has the most haxxed ability , but fighting ability seems to be below the others so far. Getting by those little girls is pretty embarrassing.

 

[BluePegasus]

As far we've seen I'd say: Di Maria > God Serena > Wahl > Brandish > Ajeel.

 

[Asorx]

As far we've seen I'd say: Di Maria > God Serena > Wahl > Brandish > Ajeel.

We don't know how strong is Brandish but its true now Dimara>Other.

 

[Synn]

As far we've seen I'd say: Di Maria > God Serena > Wahl > Brandish > Ajeel.

We haven't seen Brandish go all out, so I wouldn't rank her just yet.

 

[Brandish μ]

Hax: Di Maria > Ajeel > GS/Wahl
Offence: God Serena >= Wahl > Ajeel > Di Maria
Physicals: Wahl >= Ajeel >= God Serena > Di Maria

Overall: They're about the same, though Di Maria so far doesn't rate as high on feats. Depending on what she does next chapter she could end up firmly above, or even or below. For example we didn't get to see much of God Soul, so she might have great physicals with this (speed, strength, durability); much like Mira when she uses Take-over.

God Serena lacks feats so he could have ranked higher if his life wasn't cut short. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt with offence due to his slayer magic, we should have seen more powerful moves from him had he got stronger opponents (or time with a stronger opponent).

 

[BluePegasus]

We don't know how strong is Brandish but its true now Dimara>Other.

We haven't seen Brandish go all out, so I wouldn't rank her just yet.

You're both right. We haven't seen here fight yet. I've ranked here like this because she was taken out so early. She doesn't seem like a fighter to me. But based on her magic, she must be very strong. I don't know her limitations.

 

[Yunkers]

You're both right. We haven't seen here fight yet. I've ranked here like this because she was taken out so early. She doesn't seem like a fighter to me. But based on her magic, she must be very strong. I don't know her limitations.

Brandish's limitation is probably that, she can alter only matter. She may have hard time with Lucy, because probably her magic won't affect Celestial Spirits, because they're not made by matter. The same situation may be with Angel's angels. But it's just supposition for now.
I also wonder if Celestial Spirits can enter Dimaria's world. Their time is going otherwise and Dimaria probably looped only Earthland's time...

 

[Synn]

You're both right. We haven't seen here fight yet. I've ranked here like this because she was taken out so early. She doesn't seem like a fighter to me. But based on her magic, she must be very strong. I don't know her limitations.

Based off of what we've seen, I'd say her only limitation is her reluctance to fight and her kind personality compared to her peers, as seen on Caracole Island, when she let Natsu and the others leave without a direct confrontation. Had it been another Spriggan, I don't think they would've been able to leave without a fight.

 

[Kiki]

I think it's funny to see what happened to Dimaria. She first was underestimated by many people. People are like "All she can do is just stripping her opponent's clothes", "Her magic seems to be related to knight or requip magic just like Erza's". But she can prove her strength and her magic turned out to be different at all with our previous predicitions. People's view to her drastically changed and some people even have labelled her as the strongest Spriggan or the strongest mage in FT universe. Dimaria oh Dimaria.. Of course there was no specific intent in my words haha.

I am so looking forward to seeing more of Spriggan with frightening and shocking magics. I hope Mashima won't disappoint us Spriggan fans.

 

[Vici]

I think it's funny to see what happened to Dimaria. She first was underestimated by many people. People are like "All she can do is just stripping her opponent's clothes", "Her magic seems to be related to knight or requip magic just like Erza's". But she can prove her strength and her magic turned out to be different at all with our previous predicitions. People's view to her drastically changed and some people even have labelled her as the strongest Spriggan or the strongest mage in FT universe. Dimaria oh Dimaria.. Of course there was no specific intent in my words haha.

I am so looking forward to seeing more of Spriggan with frightening and shocking magics. I hope Mashima won't disappoint us Spriggan fans.

Well i still don't change my opinion about Dimaria she is the most hacked spriggan so far (time stop) .
"Time stop,swordsmanship and now even take over " You can't defend against such hacked ability as time stop that hacked ability put her at top .Swordsmanship it is way lower than Ikaruga/Kagura ( these two characters so far shows the best sword technique so far ) and take over yeah it looks strong but it Dimaria last resort ( With time magic become useless she had to use it in order to fight sky sisters ) we will see soon what it's real worth but take people should take in account that Dimaria is fighting against two healers ( Chelia was close to Wendy level during GMG and we all know that Wendy back then just started her big progression leaving Chelia far behind).I'm a fan of Wendy progress in the series but she still not even close to top of the guild members level and Chelia admited herself that in terms of fight she far belove Lyon and yet without her hack Dimaria is forced to use her last resort ( of course she could have something else up her sleeve but i doubt it cause there is time limit in what she will probably go down ) .

I'm also look for other spiggan magic as well just hope it would be not so hacked ( characters can give proper fight against it )

 

[Kiki]

Well i still don't change my opinion about Dimaria she is the most hacked spriggan so far (time stop) .
"Time stop,swordsmanship and now even take over " You can't defend against such hacked ability as time stop that hacked ability put her at top .Swordsmanship it is way lower than Ikaruga/Kagura ( these two characters so far shows the best sword technique so far ) and take over yeah it looks strong but it Dimaria last resort ( With time magic become useless she had to use it in order to fight sky sisters ) we will see soon what it's real worth but take people should take in account that Dimaria is fighting against two healers ( Chelia was close to Wendy level during GMG and we all know that Wendy back then just started her big progression leaving Chelia far behind).I'm a fan of Wendy progress in the series but she still not even close to top of the guild members level and Chelia admited herself that in terms of fight she far belove Lyon and yet without her hack Dimaria is forced to use her last resort ( of course she could have something else up her sleeve but i doubt it cause there is time limit in what she will probably go down ) .

I'm also look for other spiggan magic as well just hope it would be not so hacked ( characters can give proper fight against it )

Oh, about Dimaria's hax magic, yes on one hand it can be said as the most hax magic in FT universe, but on the other hand don't forget her hax magic, time-related magic, can be countered by another time wizard. So basically sometimes it can be useless at all once you face another time wizard. Judging from her reaction after seeing what Ultear did, I can draw a conclusion that Dimaria had never met another time wizard before The conclusion is, on one hand her magic is so hax, but on the other hand her magic is useless at all. This is just funny as I said in previous reply

About her God Soul, I somehow wouldn't put it too high on a rank because so far it still hasn't impressed me. All she has done in her take over form was just firing laser beam, unleashing huge MP and creating a crater. And most likely Dimaria would be defeated for sure in next chapter. Maybe. Just maybe.

 

[Brandish μ]

I actually think there's the possibility that Kagura was slightly aware of Di Maria's ability, though Di Maria was still able to cut her kimono.

After Kagura and Di Maria clash swords, Kagura notes that the battlefield was frozen still. When I first read that I thought she was talking about how overwhelming Di Maria's MP was, but now that we know Di Maria uses Age Seal it is possible that Kagura slightly noticed the Spriggans' magic.

 

[XXEliteXXAceXX]

Dimaria really hasn't shown any feats that would put her above the other Spriggans. Usually, the ones with hax magic will have a clear weakness or get taken down by PoF. In this case, Dimaria has only injured an exceed and overwhelmed Wendy + Chelia so it is not that impressive. I'd say that in terms of feats, Brandish and Dimaria are quite similar, so their power is unknown until we get further scenes. If we were to use the logic that the person with hax magic is greater than the other, Brandish could be better than Dimaria as she can just shrink her to the size of a sand particle in which the attacks from her sword will feel like a feather.

 

[iDooom]

I think that Dimaria isn't as op as some people think she is. A lot of people thought Serena was supposed to be a high-tier Spriggan, and then he didn't show that much. Then Wahl was supposed to be high tier, and he lost. What we should do is wait for more information, such as any restrictions or limitations of Dimaria's magic and destructive power instead of having a kneejerk reaction.

Something to keep in mind is that Dimaria's sword slashes and nuke didn't do that much damage to Wendy and Chelia. So far Dimaria's attack power seems somewhat limited, not counting the attacks that her God form has yet to show. It would not be out of the question for another Spriggan level character to just tank Dimaria's attacks while time is stopped. Time stop =/= instawin.

 

[Arjuna]

I have a Feeling That Spriggans Who Attempted Invasion in The Past Must be Jacob,Bradman or even Neinhart.The Spriggans of older Generation must be The One Who Attempted To Invade Ishgar at That Time.

 

[GodOfDestruction]

Its just a quick question im wondering. Like what if Neinhart had a Hell's Wheel armour, or what if August did a Take Over Dragon Soul.
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