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Are you satisfied with Sanji as a fighter/character in the new world?

  • He is still the best/my favourite character no need for him to change

  • yes he is well written and interesting for the story

  • Yes but he should get more satisfying fights in the future

  • yeah he is alright I dont mind him

  • He is meh...

  • He is a huge dissapointement and needs lots of training/character developpement

  • He is a pain and prevents you from fully enjoying the manga


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Sanji's action isn't going to cause a tear in the group. Almost everyone else has met with Sanji, and they had no problem with him. Zoro likely won't either, he hasn't shown any signs of anger or hostility in regards to Sanji. Just seems like another point to whine about with Sanji.
Think we going to have a big moment with them together as Oda continues to keep them away, but more development and friendship between them. Possibly a tag team with them vs YCs as it shaping up to be.
 

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Sanji's action isn't going to cause a tear in the group. Almost everyone else has met with Sanji, and they had no problem with him. Zoro likely won't either, he hasn't shown any signs of anger or hostility in regards to Sanji. Just seems like another point to whine about with Sanji.
Right, Zoro and Sanji have their "sibling rivalry", but they have always shown trust and respect in each others strength. I really don't see Oda going back to the "Usopp leaves the crew" well, he has done that already. The crew knows Sanji's reasons, they are glad they were able to help him and his family, and that's basically that.
 

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Zoro didn't hear the details yet, and the part where sanji "publicly disrespected and tried to hurt his captain to the best of his ability" I am not sold on the happy reunion thing just yet but we shall see.

@thedude Well Oda did the "stolen sword" thing already didn't stop him from pulling it off again. Mutny and internal conflicts are a big part of pirate life having it appear multiple times in a soon to be 1000 chapters+ story is believable
 

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I haven't weighed in on the Zoro Sanji reunion because frankly, I really just dont care... But I'm gunna lol

I think theres going to be an angry exchange of words and a clash. I don't think it's going to effect Wano moving forward and as such pointless to the overall arc.
 

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I haven't weighed in on the Zoro Sanji reunion because frankly, I really just dont care... But I'm gunna lol

I think theres going to be an angry exchange of words and a clash. I don't think it's going to effect Wano moving forward and as such pointless to the overall arc.
Zoro doesn't really can't talk on causing 'problems' when he is causing problems by making the first move and helping Luffy for a town. Plus he hasn't done much to aid in mission compare to Sanji who is working hard. I don't think it get to a point of fighting, but if it do, but go aligns with that especially Sanji's case is not the same as with Usopp's and is more to Nami's and Robin's type of 'leaving' instead. So that can happen in them verbally and physically fighting back and forth. Though still see them having an 'Bro' moment and teaming up in their battles until or all the way to their final opponents perhaps.
 
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As long as you agree with all the facts i said. I dont care what you think of my opinion of the foreshadow event..it really seems you guys want ppl to dig in on how trash Sanji has been...i dont get you kids. But its you guys, not Sanji lml. He cant help his fan boys...
Um, yes you do care if you took the time to respond.

Sanji hasn't been that trash though, if at all. It's the people criticizing him that's making bad arguments and points, like with him baking a cake or whatnot. For some reason, doing that and saving the crew and the ship is somehow a bad thing.

Right, Zoro and Sanji have their "sibling rivalry", but they have always shown trust and respect in each others strength. I really don't see Oda going back to the "Usopp leaves the crew" well, he has done that already. The crew knows Sanji's reasons, they are glad they were able to help him and his family, and that's basically that.
Exactly. Zoro even said that Sanji wouldn't let anything happen to Nami and others when Luffy's group landed on Zou.

Usopp left the crew because he didn't trust the captain and disrespected him, accusing him of abandoning Merry for a better ship and saying he'd do the same to his crew. Sanji left because he wanted to protect the people he loves and attacked Luffy solely because he wanted Luffy to give up and leave before Big Mom attacked him. It's why Luffy didn't get mad at Sanji for that and understood even when Nami didn't. Sanji even cried and said he wanted to continue sailing with the crew and had no problem with Luffy, unlike Usopp.

If anything, Zoro would just make fun of Luffy for getting knocked out by Sanji. The only anger I see coming from the crew is Zoro's bounty being lower than Sanji's.
 

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Now that it been some chapters since the fight and we got to see Hawkins and Drake fully since before the fight happen, it's more official confirmed (It was already confirmed the moment Sanji came back unscathed and promise he did what he did), that Page One is down cause if he was active, he would have done chaos around the area and would be with Hawkins and Drake at the bathhouse. So please no more about "Oh! Page One could be still active! It was off-screened!", not all fights need to be shown to know the deed is gonna be done. We been through this before as OP fans as Oda off-screened many fights and it won't be the last.

So props to Sanji more and can't wait to see how he face next in the arc even more :).
 

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Ok now let's talk about Sanji's behaviour in this week's chapter and his (Oda's?) treatment of the ladies. Has Sanji gone too far?
 

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Ok now let's talk about Sanji's behaviour in this week's chapter and his (Oda's?) treatment of the ladies. Has Sanji gone too far?
There are more important matters to discuss, like this.
The world reacts to the latest incident in Wanokuni! :toc
 

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There are more important matters to discuss, like this.
The world reacts to the latest incident in Wanokuni! :toc
So Page one was his breakfast, Queen was just a warmup and Kaido a low diff?

This is big news!!
 
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Ok now let's talk about Sanji's behaviour in this week's chapter and his (Oda's?) treatment of the ladies. Has Sanji gone too far?
Nope, those who are complaining as far as I know are just a few and using poor argument of using real life stuff to compare One Piece when it's a FICTIONAL (Emphasizing, not yelling) world, not same thing. Sanji been like this since his debut, complaining now unless your new to the series about it, is redundant and he probably didn't know it was mixed bath when he use it before going inside. So far many are saying how lucky Sanji was to witnessed than outright hate him for a gag he has on his character since day one.

He isn't even that push compare to other perverts like Brook asking for women's panties, Momosuke taking advantage of his childhood to touch women more, Franky boldy proud of being a pervert to the highest degree, etc.. Feel more like a VERY minor outrage so far on the other websites. Many are getting more annoyed on accusing Sanji like that than with them.
 
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Nope, those who are complaining as far as I know are just a few and using poor argument of using real life stuff to compare One Piece when it's a FICTIONAL (Emphasizing, not yelling) world, not same thing. Sanji been like this since his debut, complaining now unless your new to the series about it, is redundant and he probably didn't know it was mixed bath when he use it before going inside. So far many are saying how lucky Sanji was to witnessed than outright hate him for a gag he has on his character since day one.

He isn't even that push compare to other perverts like Brook asking for women's panties, Momosuke taking advantage of his childhood to touch women more, Franky boldy proud of being a pervert to the highest degree, etc.. Feel more like a VERY minor outrage so far on the other websites. Many are getting more annoyed on accusing Sanji like that than with them.
But wouldnt you say that there is a difference between talking about something, fantasize about something and actually doing it?

The fantasy was a good joke aka Sanji wanting the suke suke to peep cause we laugh at his frustration and pervy anger but him actually doing it is a bit more creepy no?
 

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But wouldnt you say that there is a difference between talking about something, fantasize about something and actually doing it?

The fantasy was a good joke aka Sanji wanting the suke suke to peep cause we laugh at his frustration and pervy anger but him actually doing it is a bit more creepy no?
In real life yeah, kinda creepy. But for Sanji who had dreamt about this ever since he was little, with his intentions being hinted at throughout the chapters it only makes sense he'd something like that.

I beg you, people, just forget about Sanji for a couple of days. Let's discuss Usopp instead... 😉
 

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But wouldnt you say that there is a difference between talking about something, fantasize about something and actually doing it?

The fantasy was a good joke aka Sanji wanting the suke suke to peep cause we laugh at his frustration and pervy anger but him actually doing it is a bit more creepy no?
As Pea said, it was heavily hinted he would use the power like that. What said he wouldn't do it?

Also not really as he just peeing like everyone else. Not like he he is going to assault someone now he is visible. He still respect and won't hurt anyone. Still a gag end of the day and probably not the last of pervy gags, so getting upset on it especially this late in the series are futile as we already passed many gags like these for a long time no problem.
 
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If you agree with sanji than absalom aint creppy
 

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If you agree with sanji than absalom aint creppy
I wouldn't compare them. Absalom would probably assault a woman while invisible as he almost did, while Sanji will just stare and would never lay a hand. He is a different kind of pervert.
 

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But wouldnt you say that there is a difference between talking about something, fantasize about something and actually doing it?

The fantasy was a good joke aka Sanji wanting the suke suke to peep cause we laugh at his frustration and pervy anger but him actually doing it is a bit more creepy no?
Technically he didn't do anything, it was a gender neutral public bath...
 

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Yea, I was surprised Sanji was actually there invisible in his raid Suit lol, smh. I always knew Sanji would actually "try" to use the suit in such a way but figures he would get caught in some comedic manner..But nah boy Sanji's wish has come true lml. It's a creepy asf though, i hope Oda uses it as a gag, with minimal success as least for the SH females...& for other random woman Sanji as some smooth random invisible romance hero XD
 

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I will take back any complains if this leads to Nami CoO awakening
 

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Yea, I was surprised Sanji was actually there invisible in his raid Suit lol, smh. I always knew Sanji would actually "try" to use the suit in such a way but figures he would get caught in some comedic manner..But nah boy Sanji's wish has come true lml. It's a creepy asf though, i hope Oda uses it as a gag, with minimal success as least for the SH females...& for other random woman Sanji as some smooth random invisible romance hero XD
Not really creepy when Sanji always been like this since he debut. He also least one to go distances with his perviness compare to other characters.
 
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