Discussion Spriggan 12 General Thread

[Verter]

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Also my thoughts about where Jacob here (Adam's apple)

 

[Kiki]

Most of them by their design, personality and magic. August and Irene also by hype though.

Okay you make me wanna post my thoughts all this time haha

I wanna rank Spriggans by some categories. This is just my personal opinion. Only top 3 though.
The Most Hyped Spriggan

1. August, The Magic King. He has been repeatedly hyped by many characters (Makarov, Brandish, Jacob, and Serena)
2. Irene Belserion, The Scarlet Scourge. Her sudden revelation and connection with Erza give me the creeps and set me wondering at the same time.
3. God Serena, The Man Who Blessed by Dragon Gods. The Gods of Ishgar plus Jura hyped him in a chapter where they met with Levy in Magic Council HQ, and his fellow teammates, August and Jacob did so.

The Most Favorite Design

1. Irene Belserion. What I like from her the most are her hood and her hair. I admit that it's very very unique to me. (I set her pic as wallpaper on my laptop and cellphone lol)
2. Jacob Lessio, The Assassin. I know his face is ugly (lol), but I like his simple design.
3. Wahl Icht, The Adjudicator. I like Mashima-sensei gave him a robotic, mechanical touch. Assault Mode is cool.

The Most Unique Magic

1. Age Seal by Dimaria Yesta, The War Princess. I admit that I like everything related to time, therefore I like her magic (The other character I like who has time magic as well is Ultear. Also, btw now I know why Dimaria is so pervy. She can do whatever she wants. IYKWIM )
2. Mass Manipulation by Brandish μ, The Nation Demolisher. This magic is so OP!
3. All of Wahl's magic: Alchemist, Weakness Analysis, and Weaponry.

The Most Underwhelming Spriggan

1. Neinhart, The Wizard of Heart. First, he didn't attend the meeting. Second, Makarov hyped him. Third, his silhouette in a chapter where Dimaria and Wahl got off the ship but he didn't looked as if he is high-tiered Spriggan. Fourth, Jellal+Kagura+Erza gathered in one place. Fifth, he practically soloed every good guys in south front (Lyon, Gray, Erza, Meldy, Juvia, Laxus, Wendy). Last, he also got one-shotted by Jellal.
2. Jacob Lessio. Full potential, actually, but Lucy outsmarted him.
3. Brandish/Serena. Brandish has pollen allergy. Serena was killed by Acnologia.

The Cutest Spriggan

1. Brandish. She made cute expressions back in Caracole Island, Lucy's house, and Aquarius' return.
2. Jacob. Made cute expression when stripping Lucy.
3. none

The Most Myterious Spriggan Before Revelation

1. The last Spriggan
2. Bloodman
3. Neinhart

The Most Anticipated Spriggan

1. August/Irene/Bloodman
2. Invel, The Winter General. I believe his magic is not only ice magic and I look forward to his fight.
3. The last Spriggan

So far this is my ranking. Can be updated if there is more revelation about the remaining Spriggan.

 

[Doughboy]

I like really all of the 12s (except Jacob's corny ass) but if we're basing it on their personailty, magic, dopeness, hype, disappointment we've seen so far:

1. DiMaria: Only thing wrong with her is her tendency to fuck around, which I can live with
2. God Serena: Funniest and most natural of the 12s, being a DS just made him even better
3. Brandish: Everyone loves her but if she starts becoming more of a badass.. yikes
4. Wahl: Dope design, magic, character
5. Ajeel: Liked him alot out of all the loud villians (Jackal, Zancrow)
6. Neinhart: Design is kinda lacking but his other features are cool
7. Irene: Don't know much about her but she looks godly
8. Bradman: One of the best designs out of all the 12s, wanna see what he does
9. August: too much hype to be a disappointment
10. Invel: kinda boring but like the serious nature
11. Unknown 12: hopefully a girl
12. Jacob: Had potential that was ruined by fanservice, still like the overall assassin look but the worst 12 to me

 

[Static]

I like really all of the 12s (except Jacob's corny ass) but if we're basing it on their personailty, magic, dopeness, hype, disappointment we've seen so far:

1. DiMaria: Only thing wrong with her is her tendency to fuck around, which I can live with
2. God Serena: Funniest and most natural of the 12s, being a DS just made him even better
3. Brandish: Everyone loves her but if she starts becoming more of a badass.. yikes
4. Wahl: Dope design, magic, character
5. Ajeel: Liked him alot out of all the loud villians (Jackal, Zancrow)
6. Neinhart: Design is kinda lacking but his other features are cool
7. Irene: Don't know much about her but she looks godly
8. Bradman: One of the best designs out of all the 12s, wanna see what he does
9. August: too much hype to be a disappointment
10. Invel: kinda boring but like the serious nature
11. Unknown 12: hopefully a girl
12. Jacob: Had potential that was ruined by fanservice, still like the overall assassin look but the worst 12 to me

Why Dimaria number 1?

 

[Doughboy]

Why Dimaria number 1?

Cause that's bae lol, no need to explain it from there

 

[Static]

Cause that's bae lol, no need to explain it from there

Oh, because of her appearance. Even I thought she was really attractive in the beginning but after all those perverted acts, she became repulsive for me.

 

[Doughboy]

Oh, because of her appearance. Even I thought she was really attractive in the beginning but after all those perverted acts, she became repulsive for me.

I wouldn't call her repulsive, I would just call her a true-bonified clown, she just likes to play around alot

Okay you make me wanna post my thoughts all this time haha

I wanna rank Spriggans by some categories. This is just my personal opinion. Only top 3 though.
The Most Hyped Spriggan

1. August, The Magic King. He has been repeatedly hyped by many characters (Makarov, Brandish, Jacob, and Serena)
2. Irene Belserion, The Scarlet Scourge. Her sudden revelation and connection with Erza give me the creeps and set me wondering at the same time.
3. God Serena, The Man Who Blessed by Dragon Gods. The Gods of Ishgar plus Jura hyped him in a chapter where they met with Levy in Magic Council HQ, and his fellow teammates, August and Jacob did so.

The Most Favorite Design

1. Irene Belserion. What I like from her the most are her hood and her hair. I admit that it's very very unique to me. (I set her pic as wallpaper on my laptop and cellphone lol)
2. Jacob Lessio, The Assassin. I know his face is ugly (lol), but I like his simple design.
3. Wahl Icht, The Adjudicator. I like Mashima-sensei gave him a robotic, mechanical touch. Assault Mode is cool.

The Most Unique Magic

1. Age Seal by Dimaria Yesta, The War Princess. I admit that I like everything related to time, therefore I like her magic (The other character I like who has time magic as well is Ultear. Also, btw now I know why Dimaria is so pervy. She can do whatever she wants. IYKWIM )
2. Mass Manipulation by Brandish μ, The Nation Demolisher. This magic is so OP!
3. All of Wahl's magic: Alchemist, Weakness Analysis, and Weaponry.

The Most Underwhelming Spriggan

1. Neinhart, The Wizard of Heart. First, he didn't attend the meeting. Second, Makarov hyped him. Third, his silhouette in a chapter where Dimaria and Wahl got off the ship but he didn't looked as if he is high-tiered Spriggan. Fourth, Jellal+Kagura+Erza gathered in one place. Fifth, he practically soloed every good guys in south front (Lyon, Gray, Erza, Meldy, Juvia, Laxus, Wendy). Last, he also got one-shotted by Jellal.
2. Jacob Lessio. Full potential, actually, but Lucy outsmarted him.
3. Brandish/Serena. Brandish has pollen allergy. Serena was killed by Acnologia.

The Cutest Spriggan

1. Brandish. She made cute expressions back in Caracole Island, Lucy's house, and Aquarius' return.
2. Jacob. Made cute expression when stripping Lucy.
3. none

The Most Myterious Spriggan Before Revelation

1. The last Spriggan
2. Bloodman
3. Neinhart

The Most Anticipated Spriggan

1. August/Irene/Bloodman
2. Invel, The Winter General. I believe his magic is not only ice magic and I look forward to his fight.
3. The last Spriggan

So far this is my ranking. Can be updated if there is more revelation about the remaining Spriggan.

This is a good list... mainly agree with everything, you must like Prince of Persia if you like time related stuff lol but yeah DiMaria is dope

God Serena to me was underrated besides us knowing he was the strongest wizard on Ishgar... but I can't call him a disappointment, being one-shotted always is trash but it was Acno, can't help it

 

[Kiki]

God Serena to me was underrated besides us knowing he was the strongest wizard on Ishgar... but I can't call him a disappointment, being one-shotted always is trash but it was Acno, can't help it

I am not disappointed by Serena. He definitely has delivered the hype to us by soloing 3 GoI + Jura and that's a pretty good feat. If you look again at my "the most underwhelming Spriggan" list, those who are in the list got defeated by a pitiful way. I just a little bit disagreed with Mashima-sensei's decision to make them look so pitiful. But, yea, we can't do much.

 

[Aizen]

I am not disappointed by Serena. He definitely has delivered the hype to us by soloing 3 GoI + Jura and that's a pretty good feat. If you look again at my "the most underwhelming Spriggan" list, those who are in the list got defeated by a pitiful way. I just a little bit disagreed with Mashima-sensei's decision to make them look so pitiful. But, yea, we can't do much.

I can see what you are saying, but imo Serena did get pretty shafted with screen time, he only got like 1 chapter and it was a beat down. Plus the GOI got so little time it was kind of pathetic, that could change later but it was disappointing to me as of now.

 

[Doughboy]

I am not disappointed by Serena. He definitely has delivered the hype to us by soloing 3 GoI + Jura and that's a pretty good feat. If you look again at my "the most underwhelming Spriggan" list, those who are in the list got defeated by a pitiful way. I just a little bit disagreed with Mashima-sensei's decision to make them look so pitiful. But, yea, we can't do much.

I realized what you said, I meant to edit it and change it lol my bad. Yeah Goddy-boy fulfilled his purpose basically and got took out by plot but it was the only way for him to be taken out cause if he fought like Natsu or Laxus and they won? Let's just say it would of been rage

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I can see what you are saying, but imo Serena did get pretty shafted with screen time, he only got like 1 chapter and it was a beat down. Plus the GOI got so little time it was kind of pathetic, that could change later but it was disappointing to me as of now.

I feel you but looking at the whole big picture, God Serena's role was just to start Acno's extermination of the 8 Dragon Slayers. He being one was a great add even if he got barely any screen time and rocked badly but it was all forecoming in the story, Acno been said he wanted to erase all the Dragons off the world and Goddy was the start of it... so besides for jokes and aesthetics he wasn't needed in the story nomore

 

[Aizen]

I realized what you said, I meant to edit it and change it lol my bad. Yeah Goddy-boy fulfilled his purpose basically and got took out by plot but it was the only way for him to be taken out cause if he fought like Natsu or Laxus and they won? Let's just say it would of been rage

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I feel you but looking at the whole big picture, God Serena's role was just to start Acno's extermination of the 8 Dragon Slayers. He being one was a great add even if he got barely any screen time and rocked badly but it was all forecoming in the story, Acno been said he wanted to erase all the Dragons off the world and Goddy was the start of it... so besides for jokes and aesthetics he wasn't needed in the story nomore

I think my problem with that is first of all Acnologia does not need more hype, he is already acknowledged as being the most powerful character in the series. Then you have to think to yourself that the only Spriggan so far that has not got at least 2 chapters to fight is Serena. The top ranked Wizard Saint and very likely the Spriggan with the biggest connection to Ishgar as a whole. The GoI looked weaker than most of FT's main fighters, which imo is bad, they were hyped for quite some time now and their performance was weak for someone of their caliber. This is why imo that fight was subpar, I thought Acnologia was a badass no doubt, but it came at the expense of a Spriggan to some degree.

 

[Brandish μ]

How would you rank the Spriggan Twelve based on who you like the most?

Subject to change. Characters we barely know are just gut feels.

1. Brandish. Easily.
2. God Serena. If he didn't die so quick Brandish would have competition.
3. Irene. The spriggan Erza. I think I'll like her a lot.
4. Wahl. He was pretty cool.
5. August. The old gun wizard who's wise, the spriggan Dumbledore.
6. Invel. I'm starting to like him more lately, like when he talked to Zeref.
7. Jacob. I like his personality before his fight, but the Lucy bit was a let-down.
8. Bradman. Good design, got potential.
9. Ajeel. Don't like him much.
10. DiMaria. Don't like her much... but if she fights Brandish she could climb this list.
11. Neinhart. Absolutely nothing good to say. Even his armour was a troll. The rose design was good but then to add... pom-poms?

 

[Aizen]

How would you rank the Spriggan Twelve based on who you like the most?

Here's my ranking:

1. Wahl

2. Neinhart

3. Di Maria

4. August

5. Invel

6. Irene

7. Bradman

8. God Serena

9. Brandish

10. Jacob

11. Ajeel

Ranking them is hard because we have not seen them all but I guess my ranking would be:

1.Irene. She has a great design, and I am hyped for what her magic will be.
2.Bradman. Great design, Looks insanely intimidating.
3.Brandish. I really like her personality. Hopefully we get to see her in a fight later.
4.Dimaria. Her powers were really cool. She also had the best fight so far imo.
5.August. He looks pretty cool, seems to know what he is doing. Can't wait to see what this guy can do.
6.Invel. He is Zeref's Chief of staff, he has to be hype.... I hope lol.
7.Wahl. Awesome design in assault mode, plus gave me the Iron Man vibe.
8.God Serena. Cool magic, too bad we did not see him for very long....
9.Jacob. He was funny, but hard to take serious.
10.Ajeel. Solid fight, but I don't really like the cocky type usually in FT.
11.Neinhart. I don't hate him, he just really didn't do anything other than watch while his magic did the work.

This could all change though after we see them all fight.

 

[King Gilgamesh]

I think my problem with that is first of all Acnologia does not need more hype, he is already acknowledged as being the most powerful character in the series. Then you have to think to yourself that the only Spriggan so far that has not got at least 2 chapters to fight is Serena. The top ranked Wizard Saint and very likely the Spriggan with the biggest connection to Ishgar as a whole. The GoI looked weaker than most of FT's main fighters, which imo is bad, they were hyped for quite some time now and their performance was weak for someone of their caliber. This is why imo that fight was subpar, I thought Acnologia was a badass no doubt, but it came at the expense of a Spriggan to some degree.

I so feel you bro. God Serena being one shotted by Acnologia was completely unnecessary, that's my main problem with it. What purpose did that serve? Only thing that makes sense is to hype up Acnologia, which again, is unnecessary considering all that he's done already. Adding the fact that God Serena and the GOI barely got any screen time makes it even worse, I mean come on the GOI got like 2 panels to show off what they can do and God Serena got like 3, and he only showed half of his powers, and then Hiro just decides to kill him off in the same chapter, that honestly annoyed me (as it did with a lot of other people). Acnologia is one badass character, but come on that didn't need to happen at all.

 

[BluePegasus]

Seems there is much hate on Neinhart here xD. To be honest, he is my favourite Spriggan after Wahl.

1). I really like his magic, Historia of Corpses. I think it's the most original magic a Spriggan showed us up to now. Even though I want Spriggan's to be very strong, Di Maria's Age Seal and Brandish' Mass Manipulation are just overpowered imo.

2). His personality. It kinda reminded me of Rufus, which is a characters I really like. I liked the way how he used his magic while he was sitting somewhere else and watched how Erza was defeated. It kinda showed me how powerful he is.

3). Yeah, I liked his design as well. In the beginning, there were high expectations for his design. But in the end, it turned out he looked way different than expected. I liked that.

 

[Doughboy]

I think my problem with that is first of all Acnologia does not need more hype, he is already acknowledged as being the most powerful character in the series. Then you have to think to yourself that the only Spriggan so far that has not got at least 2 chapters to fight is Serena. The top ranked Wizard Saint and very likely the Spriggan with the biggest connection to Ishgar as a whole. The GoI looked weaker than most of FT's main fighters, which imo is bad, they were hyped for quite some time now and their performance was weak for someone of their caliber. This is why imo that fight was subpar, I thought Acnologia was a badass no doubt, but it came at the expense of a Spriggan to some degree.

Hard to disagree with you fam but it's just I can't be too mad at it except him getting one shotted but that was a great one shot no doubt, maybe even the most satisfying one shot in this arc/series. I just can't get worked up over him getting murked by the strongest being in FT... but I agree more screen time would of probably made it easier to digest

 

[Asorx]

I like the most:
1.Brandish. She is just the best xdd
2.Wahl. He is very cool.
3.August.
4.Jackob. I like him but he has "funny battle" so he is very understimate.
5.Invel.
6.Irene.
7.Dimara. I dont like her but god soul is amazing. "She not pass" :P
8.Bradman. For me nothing special now but we will see.
9.God Serena.
10.Ajeel.
11.Nineheart. No comment. xd

 

[Eternal Dragon Of ChaOZ]

A battle between Symonne from Tales Of Zestiria & Neinhart would be really interesting.

Symonne is able to conjure up beings like Neinhart but she can create them whether they are alive or dead.

 

[Arjuna]

Fairy Tail and the 12 Labors of Hercules

Where does the name Irene come from? Did you know she is tied to Dike or the Libra constellation? Who was a blind goddess of justice? That looked like this

Spoiler: Irene picture 1

What about Serena's one shot by Acnologia and the GoI's poor defeat? It was spoken in tales long ago....

Spoiler: 3 way battle of Hercules, the 8 headed dragon, and Cancer

How about Jacob's defeat by fanservice and Gemini's star dress?

Spoiler: Crete

Wahl's power? Brandish's Naked battle, her defeat by pollen, and ties to Aquarius?

Kagura's CPR to Jella? Chelia sacrificing her magic to bring down the sky.

It's all connects to the the 12 labors of Hercules which are represented by the Greek zodiac...

I mean Natsu's cancer... It sounds like some Greek tragedy

So there are 25 stories connected to this... The story of Hercules's labor and the the story of the god associated with that constellation, which is where I fully believe Hiro is getting his inspiration from this arc. I mean he is Japanese. He had to research some of these stories at some point just for things he did in previous arcs.It might be the 12 titans... because there were titans all through Hercules's labors.

So how did these labor stories come about? And how are they connected to the 12 constellations (Can already hear the sigh from this) Well Hera made Hercules go crazy and kill his wife and children. To seek redemption... Hercules had to do 10 labors for a king... Ok 10? Why not 12? Well he gets 2 added later after the sneaky king tries to trick Hercules.

10 + 2

Like how Lucy had 10 keys (tho she has 9 now)
And Yukino has 2

The Spriggans are the 12 labors of Hercules. They are based off the zodiac tied to that labor and then they are defeated by how Hercules defeated that labor.

Ok so what does that mean....

I already posted my theory about Lucy's star dresses been linked to every 10 chapters so let's just focus on the 12 labors unless I have to mention a constellation.

Ok Ajeel and Brandish....

The first two Spriggans to be defeated.

Brandish is the embodiment of the Augean sables which is symbolized by Aquarius because Hercules had to divert a river to clean the stables. The whole point of this labor was to clean a magical stable that had sooo many ox that it had never been cleaned. The smell could kill normal humans. Well what battle came from this? The Naked battle chapter of Lucy vs Brandish.. And Brandish defeated by... Not smell but... Pollen???

Ok it might be a stretch, but let's look at the god Aquarius story... Aquarius was someone Zeus kidnapped into the stars to be his servant... What did Aquarius do to Lucy and Brandish? She took them to star memory.

There was the defeat of Ajeel. Ajeel is Scorpio. Now the Scorpion and the Crab are sometimes linked to two labors - the Diana Hind or the Cancer/Hydra battle. I am going to put Cancer with the Hydra story for obvious reasons that will be explained later so I am going to put Scorpion with the Hind.

What happened there?

Well Hercules had to hunt this deer for a year that belonged to the goddess Diana/Artemis. It was too fast for him. It could not be caught by traps or by his bare hands. He finally realized he could not catch the hind without injuring it so he wounded it's leg. Then on his way out, carrying the hind... he met Diana and Apollo. Diana was angry for her beloved pet to be wounded so she was going to fight Hercules along with her brother. But Hercules wooed her with his words and she forgave him. Leading to her healing the stag and kissing him. Some stories say she also healed his wounds.

Well ok so Erza defeated Ajeel and this story does not sound like how she defeated him, but it does sound like how Jellal, Kagura, and Erza were fighting Neinhart. Right now Kagura is the angry Diana, angry at Hercules but eventually heals him and gives him a kiss. Erza is Apollo. Just kinda there helping his sister.... Moral support!!! And Hercules is Jellal. Simon is the hind? Well the illusion is.

Ok so is Neinhart, Scorpio? No! Why beyond the fact that Azir and Scorpio have the same magic? Although... if Hiro has paralleled the south fight to Scorpio... then maybe that will be the next star dress. Really Ajel is still Scorpio. But what about when Erza fought Ajeel before?

Well Hiro used the constellation story to defeat Ajeel and not the labor... So the god associated with Scorpio is Orion. Orion was the best hunter in the world and hunted with Artemis and Leto (her mother). Well Apollo or Gaia or Artemis got angry at Orion for having (depending on which version you read) a god complex and saying he was the best hunter so they sent Scorpio to kill Orion. Some say that Apollo tricked Artemis into shooting her lover.

But whatever.

Point is that Ajeel had a god complex and boom.... the best huntress in the world took him out... Enter Bisca!!!

Next was Zeref and Serena.

Let's do Serena first and then Zeref because he's like the 13th bad guy from Alvarez.

Serena's defeat is based on Cancer. They both have crazy hair (joke). Ok really tho. The labor associated with Cancer is the Hydra (some say it was 9 headed dragon) and the distraction that got one shotted. Hercules was seriously battling the monster and as soon as he cut off a head , more would grow back. So Hera who hated Hercules, sent a Giant crab to destroy him. Ok what did Hercules do? He kicked the crab into the stars where it became a constellation and proceeded to use PoF to one shot the Hydra... No just kidding... But he did win after kicking the crab. This is Acnologia entering the battle between Serena and the GoI. Serena with his 8 lacrimals is the hydra with its multiple heads (8-9 who's counting?). Acnologia is Hercules because he defeats the Spriggan. The GoI are the poor Cancer. And now y'all know why Lucy never uses that spirit.

Zeref is a little harder because he really could be connected to two different spirits... Leo or Ophericus

I personally think it deals with Ophericus who was a scientist in Roman myths, that could cure people's sickness so well that the gods thought he would make people immortal so they killed him/cursed him. That could also be where Natsu's cancer came from.

There's is no labor associated with Operhicus but Leo is the leader of the zodiac. The Leo's star dress was also used back when Natsu/Lucy was trying to find the guild (during Avatar arc), which was important because Leo was the first labor of Hercules. And it determined all Hercule's other battles because he strangled the lion and wore his skins that had a magical shielding property. Lucy used the Leo star dress as her first star dress after the time skip. Also Zeref after his battle with Natsu decided to change his robes. I actually think Leo is associated with Invel. Since Invel is always at Zeref's side, that could be how the myths are being shared between the two. Ok! Beyond the fact that Invel and Loke look just alike. Hercules had to prove to a master that he could kill the lion because it was his first feat. The master told him that if he should die, than he would sacrifice to him... a fallen hero, but if Hercules defeated the lion, than the master and Hercules would sacrifice to Zeus. This labor is sometimes tied to subordination role of Hercules listening to the master. The Leo is also the unspoken leader of the zodiac. And even though August is more powerful... Invel is the unofficial leader.... Now Invel has not been defeated but Hercules strangled the lion so I'm thinking of someone who has alot of MP maybe Brandish? Maybe Natsu? Because they are the only ones that I could see strangling Invel.

So then there was Dimaria and Wahl.

Wahl I believe is the labor of the Metal birds (too tired of looking up spellings to say their proper name). They were these huge metal birds that Hercules shot with a bow and arrow. Wahl was machines, but Wahl was very good at targetting ppl with long range stuff both when he tried to hit the guildhall and later when he killed Beth. This labor was represented by the constellation Sagittarius, or Chiron, because Hercules shot the birds after making a loud noise that spooked them. I think this was like Laxus's crash of lightening when he found Wahl. Lyon pointed out that the noise was loud. So what about Freed's involvement? Well Hercules had a nephew that traveled with him and helped him in battle. (Who also was Hercule's lover...... FreedXLaxus..... and he helped Hercules with some of these taskes... Actually that was why the king added to labors to Hercules because he said Hercules did not do them by himself)

Ok Hiro already showed that Makarov is Chiron. The little rescue Makarov mini arc before the war established that Makarov was the trainer of healers and when Lucy used Sagittarius it further symbolized the moment. So who bested Wahl? Laxus.... Chiron.... I mean Markarov's grandson................................

Chiron is also linked to the labor of the Erymanthia Boar which will come up later.

Then there was Dimaria. She has actually has multiple connections Virgo, Chronos, and Gemini zodiac twins. The labor of the golden apples and the labor of the girdle of Hyppolita.

So first let's look at this one. Right now I think Dimaria represents Virgo. Virgo star dress was used earlier during the infiltration in Avatar when Natsu and Lucy got captured. The first story of Virgo is the sorry of Persephone and how Hades captured her (taking her to the underworld) which lead to the changing of season. Well that got played out in avatar with the sexy torture/comedy stuff and Gray coming to the rescue, but the Virgo actually represents the Labor of the Girdle of Hypolita, the Amazon queen, for Hercules.

So Hercules had to go steal this girdle or clothes which would be akin to stealing Zeref's jockstrap. In the end, Hypolita was going to give it to him.... Cuz It Be Hercules... Like Goku, Natsu, Captain Kirk, Superman, all rolled into one.... and even Amazons won't refuse him, but Hera got angry. She sowed discord among the Amazon females about the queen giving up her clothes/girdle.

So Dimaria specifically targeted women and their clothes. Then the people she fought was Ultear, Kagura, Chelia, and Wendy (Brandish?) making all her opponents female just like in Hercules's labor.

Now the part where Chelia gave up her magic to save Wendy her sky sister... That's the story of Gemini. One god brother gave up their immortality to their human twin and Zeus put them both in the sky as constellations. More specifically Zeus first made them able to divide up their time between the human realm and the heavens and hades. I think this is the time aspect of the fight.

Now I have noticed another labor that is connected with Dimaria which is the labor of the golden apples. Although I think labor should be placed with another Spriggan, I want to mention that some times Gemini is recurred to as Hercules and Atlas. Because Hercules for one if his labors had to get some immortality apples that was guarded by a dragon. He couldn't so it so he went to the Titan Atlas who was punished with holding up the sky for eternity. Hercules took the sky from him and Atlas retrieved the apples. When Atlas returned, he was going to leave Hercules but Hercules tricked him into taking the sky. This reminds me if Dimaria becoming a time god and Chelia using her sky attack against her. Really this could deal with Neinhart too.

Ok Jacob! The Franmath/Cain of the group. Cain is Taurus. His labor is Hercules vs the Createin Bull. Now the constellation Taurus is associated with Theseus and the Minotaur on Crete.This labor for Hercules is identified with overcoming sexual frustrations. Why because the story goes that Poisodon sent a bulk for Minos, the king of Crete to sacrifice but he thought it beautiful so sacrificed another. Poisodon became angry so made the bull go crazy wrecking the kingdom and having the queen fall in live with the bull and reproducing the Minatoaur with it. Hercules took the bull to the king he was doing the labors for. Theseus later had to kill both the Minatoaur and the bull. So to me Makarov is Hercules, Minos and his wife is avid. Lucy is Ariadne, the princess. And Natsu is Theseus who was the real hero of this Labor, not Hercules.

So who were Theseus and Ariadne? Athens had to sacrifice their children to Crete to put in this maze for the Minatair to hunt who was the son of the Bull that Hercules had previously defeated. Thesiis for help for this labor from the princess Ariadne. Kinda like Natsu and Lucy defeating a Spriggan together. Of course later, the hero betrays the princess, sells her out, and marries someone else (to which the princess promptly poisons).... Hey the Greek myths were actually not always happy endings.

Now there is Neinhart.

His magic of copying people's memories reminds me of Gemini. Actually I think Jellal calling heavenly body magic is akin to Hercules holding up the sky for atlas. But really this labor of the golden apples does not really for here so I want to save this labor for later still. The connection between Jellal and Atlas is also demonstrated in the fact that it represented the 3 parts of the soul.... the mind (Jellal) for when Hercules tricked Atlas, the soul (Kagura) for when Hercules traveled the earth looking for the apples, and the physical (Erza) when he held up the sky on his shoulder.

The reason that I think Hiro has not full used the golden apples labors is because it was not one of the original 10 labors. It was one do the two that was later added so I think it's going to get associated with one of the last two Spriggans. And also because there's a dragon involved. I think will be symbolized by a dragon slayer or Acnologia.

Potentially Neinhart could also be connected with Pisces. Because that is the symbol of mother and son.

Now for Irene. Well Irene is a name for the goddess Dike who is represented by Libra. Dike was the blind goddess of justice. Now the libra is connected to the labor of the boar of the north. THis battle involved poison, alcohol, death, resurrection, a defeat by snowy landscape, and regrouping after a lost battle.

Sounds like northern gravestone?

I got my hopes up thinking of Irene/Eilene vs Snowy landscape....

It would be also really cool to see Brandish manipulate the landscape against Irene.... But that highly unlikely as I really see Ajeel returning to Magnolia and Lucy using scorpio star dress to keep Ajeel's sand away from Brandish... Brandish could probably take out Ajeel if she wasn't allergic to his stirring up the elments. That really seems like the path of Hiro.........

It also connected to Chiron and Prometheus... the guy that gave fire to humans and then had his liver eaten out every day. I honestly don't even want to know what Hiro could do with this.

Libra's constellation is actually connected also to the star maiden who upholds law. This could be dealing with Mavis or Lucy.... and the use of Fairy law or Urano Metria???? So maybe Mavis gets a battle soon?

Now Capricorn has not been used. The story of Capricorn is how Zeus's mother hid Zeus from his father Cronos when he was a baby so he would not eat Zeus. The goat raised Zeus until he was old enough to fight Cronos. Zeus actually ends up chopping open Cronos and realeasing his brothers and sisters. Then he throws the body parts into the sea where Aphrodite is born. This could be a Spriggan or how a Spriggan is defeated, but I keep thinking Acnologia when I see this. Because Dragon slayers can eat their elements

So the labor connected with Cancer has been used but the constellation story of cancer has not. He was actually a guardian crab of mermaids... Guess a giant version of Sebastian from little mermaid who defeated an underwater vampire that was luring mermaids into the deep ocean and drinking their blood. I'm pretty sure Hiro will make this one perverted. This makes me think of the Death God for some reason. Not sure. We will wait and see.

The story of Pisces is Aphrodite and Eros who escaped typhon. So many connections to this. This could be the Strauss family or Yukino and Sorano. It could be Zeref/Anna (again with the Aphrodite connection) sending Natsu into the future to escape Acnologia like the Capricorn story. Or it could be something like someone escaping a battle. Or it could be Irene... She might be Erza's mother and that scar on her stomach was the C-section when she had Erza.

Cerberus was the 3 headed dog and the final task of Hercules. Hades told him he could have him after receiving the mysteries of Persephone.... This makes me think of August. And also some people identify this task with Capricorn too. The mysteries of Persephone? Hades wife? That's clearly the one magic..... Mavis... Anna.... Lucy... Layla.... I really think Mavis will battle August because its too early in the story for Mashima to pull a Resha/Elle with Anna/Lucy. Although killing Brandish or beating Natsu in front of Lucy may let her release the "Anna."

The Cows of Geryon is where Hercules split a mountain... Who can split mountains in this series? Would be cool if it was Gildarts. Once he gets the cows it's a huge ass job driving them to that snot nose king he's working for. Like the cows get stolen twice. He loses some. Not sure about this but at one time Hercules leaves Hephesteus the metal god (Gajeel) in charge of the herd. The whole labor is just a poor mess of regrouping and fighting animals and thieves. This makes me think of the north. So this might be the other Spriggan in the north. Its too much to hope for that Hiro makes the north push back Crime Soc and team Gajeel/Mira so that all the Spriggans in the north meat up with August/Zeref/Invel in Magnolia. (sigh).....

The Mares of Diomedes were these man eating mares that were suppose to be a simple labor but Hercules ends up losing a friend in this task. The king has been feeding humans to these horses for hears so in the end... Hercules feeds the king to the horses and they chill out. Think this is the north battle. Although this labor seems a bit gruesome for fairy tail. So I think maybe someones magic ends up backfiring or being overused. (Can imagine the salt of the fandom if this happens).

So I didn't mention Ares just because I am not sure what labor she is associated with. It could be the mares or the cows of Geryon. Ares star dress was used against Brandish. It really did not show any feats. It was there for design. I think this was because Ares ties to the story of the golden fleece... the sheep that took these two children away (saving their lives)... but one fell off into the ocean... The goat was killed and skinned for not saving both children. And this became the golden fleece which healing properties could make you almost like immortal. And Jason and the Argonauts later retrieve it. The fleece was also suppose to be guarded by a dragon. This is like Zeref and Natsu. Natsu died... But also the dragon slayers were sent into the future and Layla died opening the gate. On top of that. This was right after Mavis's story. The whole arc is basically about being after this golden lumen histoire (the body of an immortal)....

So what are we being led to in this arc?

Redemption. of. Hercules.

Who needs redeeming?

My money is on Zeref.

I think I covered everything.

Oh yeah... these connections started at 417... after the second time skip.

So I think that we will have 417 + 120 (f0r each labor) which equals 537.

But since there was originally only 10 labors. I think about 417+100= 517... we will get a plot twist...... that will either end this arc or create a sub plot for this arc (like how Hiro added the eclipse gate to the end of GMG).

(Wipes forehead.... and promptly faints)

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Chapter 484 edition:
So Reina's two handmaidens... I mean Irene's two handmaidens are connected to the sun and moon.



It could refer to Western Maidens... Really there should be 3 of them though... but sometimes there are two when they are portrayed as Morning (day) and Evening (night). There signs are the sun and moon. These are the goddess that guard the golden fruit for that labor along with the Dragon (incoming Acnologia). Hercules had to use Atlas to bypass the group and get the fruit (not sure what could be done with this).Irene has two subordinates Juliet and Hynhe.



Now Irene changing landscape goes back to the E. boar labor. Mount Erymanthus was where the labor took place because it snowed for most of the year. The other important part of this story was the poisoning of Chiron and the resigned of his immortality to the titan Prometheus.

August vs Brandish, Natsu, Lucy.... There were 3 ways Cerebrus was beaten greek myths. Hercules just used brute force to get Cerebrus to submit, but the two other ways was to outsmart him (lure the guard of hell to sleep with a lyre) or be Persephone who was the only one Cerebrus liked.
Thus Brandish is Persephone. Lucy is the guy with the Lyra that outsmarted Cerebrus. And Natsu is Hercules (brute force).

Although if the way that August is beat is through being put to sleep with a song of Lyra... I will need some popcorn for all the salt.

The story of the two angels. That sounds like Dike's fight against the evil version of Dike where she beat the goddess with her staff. Dike was sometimes considered to be a white angel. The alternate version of her was black.

The last spriggin should embody Pisces which could be male or female. If his character is based on Eos than that will be interesting because he is standing next to the Death God (irony for us history fans) I was hoping for a female but like I said Pisces is a embodies the male and female aspects because it is mother (Aphrodite) and child (her son Eos).

Although Eos was attacked by typhon (the black dragon of the apocolyspe) so we may get another Serena one shot if Acnologia appears. That's actually the whole myth of Pisces is based on. Aphrodite and Eos turned into fish to escape the black dragon.

The Death god is to general at this point. I am thinking he will turn out to be the guy that gets taken out by having his magic back fire on him (like Azuma).

 

[Dranzer]

Although at times the theory did stretch pretty thin, if you came up with this I truly applaud your knowledge on Greek mythology!