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The Internet and Faces
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tl by molokidan
173)
1: Aug. 10 - the Issue #35-36 combined issue goes on sale.
Page 120 - The Internet and Faces
2: It really is good...
slanted: It's true that it's good...but...
3: I was moved by the last scene!
4(2b): The majority of the internet responses were that "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" was better, but there were also many opinions that for "Jump," toning it down this much was a good idea.
5: But the real question is whether it'll get popular among the "Jump" titles on the net.
6: The story composition, development, and psychological depictions are very well done, and the art is good as usual, so it might get popular.
7: ...Nanamine-kun's works are really "one-idea."
8: One-idea?
174)
1(2b): If you lie, you get killed. If you get nervous, you fart. He develops and expands a story around that simple, single idea, which goes to prove how great an idea it is.
2: Hmmm.
3: I see.
4: Saikou, about a "variant" "proper" battle...
5: Hm?
6: First, how about we design a character?
7: Huh?
8(2b): A character you think is cool! A character you want to show in cool scenes and poses!
9: He can be human or non-human, just someone who you'd expect to see in a "proper" battle manga!
175)
1(2b): Then let's make a "variant" story using that "proper" battle manga character! That's how you make a true "variant" "proper" battle manga!
2: For example, in Ishinomori-sensei's "Kamen Rider," "Jinzou Ningen Kikaider," "Himitsu Sentai Goranger," "Henshin Ninja Arashi," and "Robot Keiji..." the characters are always the priority, aren't they?
3: ...well, now that you mention it...
4(2b): I see. That is a valid method of creation. Maybe that's what Eiji was talking about when he mentioned how the characters he likes just move on their own.
5(2b): Eiji's the kind of artist whose stories and characters come out mostly without him having to do any thinking. But we think up the characters, then write the stories.
6(2b): "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" has no 'friendship,' 'effort,' or 'victory' in it, which makes it not "Jump-esque." You called it "variant," Saikou.
7: Yeah.
176)
1: And in Nanamine-kun's work, the characters are weak and cool. Which means...
2(2b): We need to create a "variant" story on top of creating a cool, "proper" character! And we have to keep in mind an anime adaptation, of course!
3: It may be a bit tough drawing up a variant story, but if we learn from Nanamine's work and use a "one-idea" setting, then I think that'll be best.
4: You make a character first, Saikou, and then we'll think of a story inspired from him. How does that sound?
5: It sounds theoretical as usual, but I like the sound of this.
6: A story from the character...
7: For now, we need a cool character, a scene, and then a cute heroine.
8: OK, sounds good!
9: It's fun to draw cool scenes, so I'll try it when I have some free time.
177)
1: Next Tuesday
2(2b): Ohh, look at that face! Did the quick announcement of "Kinchou to Sore Ni~" work out?
3: Yes. The effects of "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" may have helped out, but it took the #1 spot.
4: I think it was a good idea to take something that would have normally been approached as a comedy and make it serious.
5: It's a "one-shot" type, though.
6: Ah, I see...
7(2b): He has a seralization draft already done, though. It's good, wanna give it a look?
8(2b): It's called "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu ni Hitsuyou na Sore" (That Which is Needed For a Meaningful School Life"
9: So he changed the title!
10: I see, with this setting...the way he took it from a one-shot to a serialization was really clever.
11: How can he bang this stuff out one after another so fast...he's too much of a genius!
178)
1: He really is the "one-in-every-ten-years" talent.
2: I think that saying started because once in every ten years, someone starts a serialization and it becomes a hit...
3: I don't know how many years you need for one to come along, but it's true that this guy has serious talent! You really hit the jackpot this time, eh, Kosugi?
4: Well, this is still only the quick announcement for a one-shot, so...
5: ...it has a lot of similarities to "PCP," though...
6: But still, what is this? This out of place feeling...
7: "One-in-every-ten-years" talent, huh...they said it was a school manga...are you gonna be alright with your serialization, Aoki-san?
8: I bet he'll even get #1 in the real rankings. So after "Kinchou to Sore ni Tomonau Kitai," we have "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu ni Hitsuyou na Sore," huh...they're really irritating titles, in a good way.
9: His works are rich with ideas and interesting, but...Nanamine Tooru himself...
10(2b): has no personality! He's just gathering up familiar ideas and lines.
11: If he brings another one like this to the next serialization meeting, I'm going to call him out on that and block him!
12: Ohhh! I didn't know you had that much power, Yoshida-san?
13: Well, I'll try, at least!
14: I thought so...
179)
1: Friday
2: Nanamine-kun, you're #1 in the actual rankings too.
3: Hooraaaaay!!
4: #1 in the actual rankings...
5-6: klak klak
7: Thank you very much! It's all thanks to you, Kosugi-san! May I come to Shueisha right now?!
8: Eh?! Right now?
9: I have the second and third chapters of my serialization done.
10: Ehh, already?! ...
nanamine: #1 in the actual rankings!
take20: Ohhhh
nobu: here we go!
ichigo: we did it!
boss: hooraaaaay
right: awesooooome
nobu: Now you won't have to deliver pizzas anymore, eh?!
nodoru: I can't stop laughing!
180)
1: "Already?!" But you said the serialization meeting was on August 28, didn't you?! I'm working hard to make it in time!
2: And I added some more ideas to make chapter one even more interesting!
3: ...but I told him #1 was fine like that, why would he change it...?
4: And we can't even start worrying about #2 or #3 until we see the team leader's response...
5: Still, great job for getting it done so quickly. How do you do it?
6: That's a trade secret! Ahahaha!
7: !! Trade secret...
8: OK, so can I come over now?
9: Eh?
10: If we really start a serialization, then I'm going to be the one who has to go to YOUR place.
11(2b): You live with your parents, don't you, Nanamine-kun? If you get a serialization started, you'll probably have to search for an office. I want to see how much is possible in your living conditions now.
181)
1: To my house...
2: OK! I'm counting on you! I don't have work today, anyway.
3: I think I can get there in 30 minutes by car, what time would be good for you?
4: Well then, can you please come as quickly as possible?
5: beep
6: klak
7: My editor's coming here now to check on my drafts.
nanamine: My editor's coming here now to check on my drafts.
nobu: Woah! Connect and mic and camera and broadcast it live!
take: Good idea! I wanna see how shitty an editor he is!
nodoru: We'll work that Kosugi-kun into shape for you!
8: I can't do something that dangerous! I'll come back to report once he leaves.
9-10: klak
182)
1: Well?!
2: The edited #1, and then #2 and #3!
3: Mmmm....something doesn't feel right about the main character...
4: In this type of story, I feel it'd be easier for the readers to relate to a normal kind of person.
5: And I said that #1 was already OK, didn't I?
6: I can understand you drawing #2 and #3 after that, but why would you go back and edit #1?
7: Well, just because you were OK with it, Kosugi-san, doesn't mean everyone else is.
8: Everyone else?
9: Ah.
10: Who is everyone else?
183)
1: Ah, whatever.
2: There's no point to hiding it anymore. And this way I can include you as well, Kosugi-san.
3: pop
4(2b): klak klak
5: tap
nanamine: Right now my editor is here and looking at my monitor. Please understand that when choosing your responses.
chigochan: Mr. editor Good morning!
obu: Good work!
oss: I read "Shonen Jump" every week!
ke: Nice to meet you! I'm a 28-year old salaryman!
ht: I think that characters are what make manga!
GI: Let's work hard together ot make "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu" a great manga!
6: This...
7: is everyone else.
184)
top 2 panels are the same lines
1: There are 50 people here who give me ideas, and I can always gather up around half of them.
2: ...then your manga wasn't your original work...
3: I can get about 10 even in the middle of the night.
4(2b): What are you talking about? I'm not taking ideas from any other work, so it's completely original. I'm just implementing the opinions of many other people.
5: ...I knew something was weird about this...
6(3b): This is bad...it's going to cause a problem. For example, if it gets serialized and becomes a hit, what are you going to do if these people come knocking asking for royalties? ...what if they make the truth public? And tell everyone how you're drawing your manga.
7: I've already thought about all that. If that happens, I can just cut them off and find more people who understand me. I told them that at the start.
8(2b): If they make it public...? Then I'll just acknowledge the fact that I'm taking a ground-breaking approach to manga.
185)
1: If you think about it, it's not like I'm making it public myself. Please make sure the editors stay quiet about it too.
2: ...a...am I not good enough for you?
3: Yes.
4(2b): The turth is, there are people among this 50 who have experience with serializations, and some who've worked as editors for over five years. Kosugi-san, can you really say that you alone possess more intelligence than these fifty people? I know you aren't that stupid.
5: Issues #2 and #3 are stories I devised completely on my own...
6: If they can make it through the serialization meeting, then I'll be expecting you to follow me from now on.
7: Follow?
186)
1: Please, relax. I'm not asking you to be my slave. You just need to give me opinions as the 51st person.
2: 51st...
3: ...he...he's going to completely disregard my position...
4: Kosugi-san, this is still your first year as an editor.
5(2b): Therefore you must accept your lack of power...and your weakness as an editor...
6: If you don't make some results within three years, there will be a change of personnel.
7(2b: Ahaha, your face is telling me that's exactly what you were afraid of! Looks like what they say on the net is pretty true after all. Your emotions always come out in your face, Kosugi-san, you're so predictable.
187)
1(2b): You want results, don't you? You want to make a hit, don't you? With this way, we'll be sure to have a hit on our hands.
2: And if you say something pathetic like "I can't do this your way," then I'll be the one to step down.
3: I'll go to another magazine.
4(3b): Do you know how sought after I've become thanks to "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu?" There are even publishers begging me to begin a serialization in their magazine. If you lose an amateur to potential to another magazine, you'll lose face, and it'll become a big minus on your record. If you think about it this way, then I'm actually giving you a big chance...
188)
1: Please, decide. Will you follow me, or won't you?
2: The manga is good...and so is the art...if I let him go...
3: Alright, I'll try things your way!
4(2b): I knew you'd understand, Kosugi-san...I'm so happy that got an editor who can understand! Let's work hard together!
nanamine: We did it! If this gets serialized, the editor will follow us!
take20: Ohhhhh!!
nobu: Hooray!
ichigochan: Awesome
boss: Kosugi is pathetic, but made a wise decision.
nodoru: Mmm. I think a little better of editor Kosugi now.
right: He understands where he really stands.
189)
1: Everyone can't stop talking about that newbie, saying he's the best talent we've had since Niizuma.
2: Who?
3: ...that Nanamine-kun guy. You mean you didn't read his one-shot yet?
4: ? That's it?
5(2b): skritch skritch
6: His art was good.
7: Yeah, Niizuma-kun didn't read "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu"...
8: Well, even if he didn't read it, he should think "Kinchou to Sore ni Shitagau Kitai" is good...
9: Wasn't Nanamine-kun's oneshot good?
10: ...it was.
190)
1: He's the second Ashirogi Muto...it's like Ashrogi Muto II has appeared.
2: Yeah!
3: Ashirogi-kun, or someone even more powerful, right?! You look those kind of manga too, right. Niizuma-kun?
4: It would be interesting if the 2nd overcame the original,
5: but unlike Ashirogi-sensei, I can't see the author's face at all!
6: You can't see the author's face?
7: Well...I've never seen it, so obviously not.
8: ...yeah, obviously...
191)
1: Next Thursday
2: Nanamine-kun's work is getting brought in to the serialization meeting.
3: That was quick...Hiramaru-kun and Aoki-san are going to send something in too, right...?
4: Hiramaru-kun has gags, so his will be different, but it may be tough for Aoki-kun...the work it resembles most is "PCP," though.
5: The way it follows emotions and tactics...and how it's in a school...
6: and the art...
7: ...I don't want to lose to Nanamine-kun...
8: Yeah, this isn't the problem of another series...
9: If Nanamine Tooru gets a serialization, then we'll have to take responsibility and crush him with "PCP!"
10: Yeah!
white: As pros...they are going to make it clear who's in the right and who's in the wrong with manga!!
tl by molokidan
173)
1: Aug. 10 - the Issue #35-36 combined issue goes on sale.
Page 120 - The Internet and Faces
2: It really is good...
slanted: It's true that it's good...but...
3: I was moved by the last scene!
4(2b): The majority of the internet responses were that "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" was better, but there were also many opinions that for "Jump," toning it down this much was a good idea.
5: But the real question is whether it'll get popular among the "Jump" titles on the net.
6: The story composition, development, and psychological depictions are very well done, and the art is good as usual, so it might get popular.
7: ...Nanamine-kun's works are really "one-idea."
8: One-idea?
174)
1(2b): If you lie, you get killed. If you get nervous, you fart. He develops and expands a story around that simple, single idea, which goes to prove how great an idea it is.
2: Hmmm.
3: I see.
4: Saikou, about a "variant" "proper" battle...
5: Hm?
6: First, how about we design a character?
7: Huh?
8(2b): A character you think is cool! A character you want to show in cool scenes and poses!
9: He can be human or non-human, just someone who you'd expect to see in a "proper" battle manga!
175)
1(2b): Then let's make a "variant" story using that "proper" battle manga character! That's how you make a true "variant" "proper" battle manga!
2: For example, in Ishinomori-sensei's "Kamen Rider," "Jinzou Ningen Kikaider," "Himitsu Sentai Goranger," "Henshin Ninja Arashi," and "Robot Keiji..." the characters are always the priority, aren't they?
3: ...well, now that you mention it...
4(2b): I see. That is a valid method of creation. Maybe that's what Eiji was talking about when he mentioned how the characters he likes just move on their own.
5(2b): Eiji's the kind of artist whose stories and characters come out mostly without him having to do any thinking. But we think up the characters, then write the stories.
6(2b): "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" has no 'friendship,' 'effort,' or 'victory' in it, which makes it not "Jump-esque." You called it "variant," Saikou.
7: Yeah.
176)
1: And in Nanamine-kun's work, the characters are weak and cool. Which means...
2(2b): We need to create a "variant" story on top of creating a cool, "proper" character! And we have to keep in mind an anime adaptation, of course!
3: It may be a bit tough drawing up a variant story, but if we learn from Nanamine's work and use a "one-idea" setting, then I think that'll be best.
4: You make a character first, Saikou, and then we'll think of a story inspired from him. How does that sound?
5: It sounds theoretical as usual, but I like the sound of this.
6: A story from the character...
7: For now, we need a cool character, a scene, and then a cute heroine.
8: OK, sounds good!
9: It's fun to draw cool scenes, so I'll try it when I have some free time.
177)
1: Next Tuesday
2(2b): Ohh, look at that face! Did the quick announcement of "Kinchou to Sore Ni~" work out?
3: Yes. The effects of "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu" may have helped out, but it took the #1 spot.
4: I think it was a good idea to take something that would have normally been approached as a comedy and make it serious.
5: It's a "one-shot" type, though.
6: Ah, I see...
7(2b): He has a seralization draft already done, though. It's good, wanna give it a look?
8(2b): It's called "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu ni Hitsuyou na Sore" (That Which is Needed For a Meaningful School Life"
9: So he changed the title!
10: I see, with this setting...the way he took it from a one-shot to a serialization was really clever.
11: How can he bang this stuff out one after another so fast...he's too much of a genius!
178)
1: He really is the "one-in-every-ten-years" talent.
2: I think that saying started because once in every ten years, someone starts a serialization and it becomes a hit...
3: I don't know how many years you need for one to come along, but it's true that this guy has serious talent! You really hit the jackpot this time, eh, Kosugi?
4: Well, this is still only the quick announcement for a one-shot, so...
5: ...it has a lot of similarities to "PCP," though...
6: But still, what is this? This out of place feeling...
7: "One-in-every-ten-years" talent, huh...they said it was a school manga...are you gonna be alright with your serialization, Aoki-san?
8: I bet he'll even get #1 in the real rankings. So after "Kinchou to Sore ni Tomonau Kitai," we have "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu ni Hitsuyou na Sore," huh...they're really irritating titles, in a good way.
9: His works are rich with ideas and interesting, but...Nanamine Tooru himself...
10(2b): has no personality! He's just gathering up familiar ideas and lines.
11: If he brings another one like this to the next serialization meeting, I'm going to call him out on that and block him!
12: Ohhh! I didn't know you had that much power, Yoshida-san?
13: Well, I'll try, at least!
14: I thought so...
179)
1: Friday
2: Nanamine-kun, you're #1 in the actual rankings too.
3: Hooraaaaay!!
4: #1 in the actual rankings...
5-6: klak klak
7: Thank you very much! It's all thanks to you, Kosugi-san! May I come to Shueisha right now?!
8: Eh?! Right now?
9: I have the second and third chapters of my serialization done.
10: Ehh, already?! ...
nanamine: #1 in the actual rankings!
take20: Ohhhh
nobu: here we go!
ichigo: we did it!
boss: hooraaaaay
right: awesooooome
nobu: Now you won't have to deliver pizzas anymore, eh?!
nodoru: I can't stop laughing!
180)
1: "Already?!" But you said the serialization meeting was on August 28, didn't you?! I'm working hard to make it in time!
2: And I added some more ideas to make chapter one even more interesting!
3: ...but I told him #1 was fine like that, why would he change it...?
4: And we can't even start worrying about #2 or #3 until we see the team leader's response...
5: Still, great job for getting it done so quickly. How do you do it?
6: That's a trade secret! Ahahaha!
7: !! Trade secret...
8: OK, so can I come over now?
9: Eh?
10: If we really start a serialization, then I'm going to be the one who has to go to YOUR place.
11(2b): You live with your parents, don't you, Nanamine-kun? If you get a serialization started, you'll probably have to search for an office. I want to see how much is possible in your living conditions now.
181)
1: To my house...
2: OK! I'm counting on you! I don't have work today, anyway.
3: I think I can get there in 30 minutes by car, what time would be good for you?
4: Well then, can you please come as quickly as possible?
5: beep
6: klak
7: My editor's coming here now to check on my drafts.
nanamine: My editor's coming here now to check on my drafts.
nobu: Woah! Connect and mic and camera and broadcast it live!
take: Good idea! I wanna see how shitty an editor he is!
nodoru: We'll work that Kosugi-kun into shape for you!
8: I can't do something that dangerous! I'll come back to report once he leaves.
9-10: klak
182)
1: Well?!
2: The edited #1, and then #2 and #3!
3: Mmmm....something doesn't feel right about the main character...
4: In this type of story, I feel it'd be easier for the readers to relate to a normal kind of person.
5: And I said that #1 was already OK, didn't I?
6: I can understand you drawing #2 and #3 after that, but why would you go back and edit #1?
7: Well, just because you were OK with it, Kosugi-san, doesn't mean everyone else is.
8: Everyone else?
9: Ah.
10: Who is everyone else?
183)
1: Ah, whatever.
2: There's no point to hiding it anymore. And this way I can include you as well, Kosugi-san.
3: pop
4(2b): klak klak
5: tap
nanamine: Right now my editor is here and looking at my monitor. Please understand that when choosing your responses.
chigochan: Mr. editor Good morning!
obu: Good work!
oss: I read "Shonen Jump" every week!
ke: Nice to meet you! I'm a 28-year old salaryman!
ht: I think that characters are what make manga!
GI: Let's work hard together ot make "Yuuigi na Gakuen Seikatsu" a great manga!
6: This...
7: is everyone else.
184)
top 2 panels are the same lines
1: There are 50 people here who give me ideas, and I can always gather up around half of them.
2: ...then your manga wasn't your original work...
3: I can get about 10 even in the middle of the night.
4(2b): What are you talking about? I'm not taking ideas from any other work, so it's completely original. I'm just implementing the opinions of many other people.
5: ...I knew something was weird about this...
6(3b): This is bad...it's going to cause a problem. For example, if it gets serialized and becomes a hit, what are you going to do if these people come knocking asking for royalties? ...what if they make the truth public? And tell everyone how you're drawing your manga.
7: I've already thought about all that. If that happens, I can just cut them off and find more people who understand me. I told them that at the start.
8(2b): If they make it public...? Then I'll just acknowledge the fact that I'm taking a ground-breaking approach to manga.
185)
1: If you think about it, it's not like I'm making it public myself. Please make sure the editors stay quiet about it too.
2: ...a...am I not good enough for you?
3: Yes.
4(2b): The turth is, there are people among this 50 who have experience with serializations, and some who've worked as editors for over five years. Kosugi-san, can you really say that you alone possess more intelligence than these fifty people? I know you aren't that stupid.
5: Issues #2 and #3 are stories I devised completely on my own...
6: If they can make it through the serialization meeting, then I'll be expecting you to follow me from now on.
7: Follow?
186)
1: Please, relax. I'm not asking you to be my slave. You just need to give me opinions as the 51st person.
2: 51st...
3: ...he...he's going to completely disregard my position...
4: Kosugi-san, this is still your first year as an editor.
5(2b): Therefore you must accept your lack of power...and your weakness as an editor...
6: If you don't make some results within three years, there will be a change of personnel.
7(2b: Ahaha, your face is telling me that's exactly what you were afraid of! Looks like what they say on the net is pretty true after all. Your emotions always come out in your face, Kosugi-san, you're so predictable.
187)
1(2b): You want results, don't you? You want to make a hit, don't you? With this way, we'll be sure to have a hit on our hands.
2: And if you say something pathetic like "I can't do this your way," then I'll be the one to step down.
3: I'll go to another magazine.
4(3b): Do you know how sought after I've become thanks to "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu?" There are even publishers begging me to begin a serialization in their magazine. If you lose an amateur to potential to another magazine, you'll lose face, and it'll become a big minus on your record. If you think about it this way, then I'm actually giving you a big chance...
188)
1: Please, decide. Will you follow me, or won't you?
2: The manga is good...and so is the art...if I let him go...
3: Alright, I'll try things your way!
4(2b): I knew you'd understand, Kosugi-san...I'm so happy that got an editor who can understand! Let's work hard together!
nanamine: We did it! If this gets serialized, the editor will follow us!
take20: Ohhhhh!!
nobu: Hooray!
ichigochan: Awesome
boss: Kosugi is pathetic, but made a wise decision.
nodoru: Mmm. I think a little better of editor Kosugi now.
right: He understands where he really stands.
189)
1: Everyone can't stop talking about that newbie, saying he's the best talent we've had since Niizuma.
2: Who?
3: ...that Nanamine-kun guy. You mean you didn't read his one-shot yet?
4: ? That's it?
5(2b): skritch skritch
6: His art was good.
7: Yeah, Niizuma-kun didn't read "Shinjitsu no Kyoushitsu"...
8: Well, even if he didn't read it, he should think "Kinchou to Sore ni Shitagau Kitai" is good...
9: Wasn't Nanamine-kun's oneshot good?
10: ...it was.
190)
1: He's the second Ashirogi Muto...it's like Ashrogi Muto II has appeared.
2: Yeah!
3: Ashirogi-kun, or someone even more powerful, right?! You look those kind of manga too, right. Niizuma-kun?
4: It would be interesting if the 2nd overcame the original,
5: but unlike Ashirogi-sensei, I can't see the author's face at all!
6: You can't see the author's face?
7: Well...I've never seen it, so obviously not.
8: ...yeah, obviously...
191)
1: Next Thursday
2: Nanamine-kun's work is getting brought in to the serialization meeting.
3: That was quick...Hiramaru-kun and Aoki-san are going to send something in too, right...?
4: Hiramaru-kun has gags, so his will be different, but it may be tough for Aoki-kun...the work it resembles most is "PCP," though.
5: The way it follows emotions and tactics...and how it's in a school...
6: and the art...
7: ...I don't want to lose to Nanamine-kun...
8: Yeah, this isn't the problem of another series...
9: If Nanamine Tooru gets a serialization, then we'll have to take responsibility and crush him with "PCP!"
10: Yeah!
white: As pros...they are going to make it clear who's in the right and who's in the wrong with manga!!
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