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Vagabond 199

Vagabond Ch. 199 Translated

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+ posted by zindryr as translation on Jul 30, 2006 09:32 | Go to Vagabond

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Blah, I dislike doing it but these translations are reserved for KO-Scans to use to scanlate. It's better in the end considering you'll have a consistent editing/typesetting job. So, please don't use these translations to scanlate.

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#199|小次郎と又八
#199 | Kojiro and Matahachi

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植田ァ
Ueda!

貴様は・・・
What...

貴様は何を考えている!!
What the hell are you thinking!?

代役だと!?
A replacement!?

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伝七郎さん!
Denshichiro!

ハア
Haah.

闘う意味がない
There's no reason to fight!

何っ!?
What!?

当主になったんだ!!
You are the family head now!!

勝って益なく負けたらすべてを失う
If you win you'll gain nothing, but if you're defeated you'll lose everything.

当主がそんな相手と闘ってはいけない
A family head must not fight someone like that.

代役を立てましょう
Allow us to use a replacement.

黙れ!!
Be silent!!

伝七郎先生!!
Master Denshichiro!!

俺は損得勘定は出来ぬ
I am no mercenary.

ただ一年前に武蔵と交わした約束を守る
But I will keep the promise I made with Musashi one year ago.

闘う意味はそれで充分!!
That is reason enough to fight!!

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No text.

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植田
Ueda.

ハア
Haah.

俺がして欲しいことの逆をやっている
You keep doing the opposite of what I want you to do.

蔵人
Kurando.

ただ一言
Tell me one thing.

信じていると言ってくれ
Tell me you believe in me.

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伝七郎さん
Denshichiro.

その様な考えで当主が務まると
You won't survive as a family head thinking like that...

伝・・・?
Den-...?

ハア
Haah.

ハッ
Hah.

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伝七郎さん!?
Denshichiro!?

ハッ
Hah.

ハア
Haah.

いかがなされましたか!?
What is the matter?

むっ、すごい熱
He's got a high fever.

少し休まれた方が
You should rest a bit.

だ・・・大丈夫だ
I'm... I'm fine.

御屋敷へ戻りましょう、さあ!
Let us return to the mansion, now!

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な・・・
Ho-...

何てことだ・・・!!
How did this...!!

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み・・・見えたか?
Co-... Could you see it?

いや・・・御池殿が斬りかかったのは確かだが・・・
No... Miike did move to strike but...

おそらくは・・・
Perhaps...

御池殿の剣が奴の頭上に振り下ろされる刹那・・・
The second Miike lifted his sword above that guy's head to strike...

奴が出籠手の形で合わせた
He met the attack with a Degote.1

その剣は腕で止まらずに
And his sword went on...

御池殿の腹を斜めに裂いた
Splitting Miike's belly open crosswise.

・・・と思われるが、スマン、俺には両者が衝突しただけのようにしか見えなかった
... That's what I think but, sorry, I only saw them kind of collide with each other.

さて・・・
Well...

客人として迎えるんだ
Treat him as a guest.

ハア
Haah.

うむ、連れていかねばな
Yeah, we need to take him with us.

あの・・・!佐々木殿
Uh...! Sasaki!

話は出来んぞ
He can't communicate.

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どうすりゃいいんだ、この男を・・・!?
How should we get this guy to...!?

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震えているのは怖いからじゃない
I'm not shaking because I'm afraid.

武蔵よう・・・
But, Takezo...

おめーは強い、子供の頃からずっと強かった
You're strong, have been ever since we were little.

それはもちろん認めてる
Of course I recognize that.

でも俺だった
But I'm...

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俺だって強い!!
I'm strong too!!

幼い頃は二人とも体が大きく腕っぷしが強くて似たところがたくさんあった
When we were younger, we were both big kids, and pretty strong, with many things in common.

いつからか・・・お前はどんどん強くなり
But then... You got much, much stronger.

人が怖がるほど強くなり
So strong that people feared you.

友達なのに
Even though we were friends.

少しずつ俺はお前の考えていることがわからなくなっていき・・・
I understood you less and less as time went by...

武蔵とその他大勢
It was Takezo against the world.

俺はその他大勢の一人に埋もれてゆき
And I became a bystander, the same as rest of the world.

武蔵、俺は
Takezo, I...

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強い男が二人並び立つ
Two strong men standing together.

武蔵と俺
Takezo and I.

いつまでもそんな感じでありたかった
I always wanted things to be like that.

親に背いて、関ヶ原(いくさ)に出て
I disobeyed my parents and went off to the battle of Sekigahara.

村にも帰らず今も足掻き続けているのはそのためだ
I haven't returned to my village yet, and struggle on just for that dream.

全部そのためなんだ
Everything for that.

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怖いから震えているんじゃない
I'm not shaking because I'm afraid.

こうなりたかった
I wanted things to be like this.

今、目の前にいるのは
Like the man who's right here in front of me.

俺がずっとこうなりたいと思っていた人間そのもの
This is who I've always wanted to be.

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そのものなんだっ
Just like him.

是非我が道場に来ていただき、その剣術を御教授願いたい
We ask you to please come to our dojo, and teach us your style of fighting.

佐々木殿・・・!!
Sasaki...!!

ボー
2

どう言ったらいいのか・・・
How should we say it...

とにかく我々と一緒に来ていただきたい!!
If you would please just come with us!!

条件があるなら言ってください!!出来るだけのことはします!
If you have demands, please tell us!! We'll do anything we can!

くあ・・・
Yawn...

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我々と・・・
Please...

一緒に
Come with us to...

吉岡・・・
The Yoshioka...

よーしィ
Yo-shi-

おーか
o-ka.

吉岡道場へ行きましょう
Let us go to the Yoshioka dojo.

ゴー
Go.

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やってられるか・・・
Yeah, right...

どだい無理だ
This was impossible.

話も出来ん者を見方につけるなんて
Trying to make an ally of someone who can't communicate.

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御池殿を斬った人間を吉岡の誰が客人として迎えるのか・・・!!
As if anyone would welcome this man as a guest after he killed Miike...!!

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ザコ
Bastard!3

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No text.

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うっ・・・
Uh...

ハア
Haah.

待て
Wait!

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ま、待てよっ!!
Wa-, wait!!

また降ってきましたね・・・
It's starting to fall again...

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Vagabond page.

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Omake.



1Degote: A move used in Kendo as a preemptive strike to the forearms.
2Any suggestions for this sound?
3At least that's what it looks like, backwards, could be just some yell.



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#1. by devinlane ()
Posted on Jul 30, 2006
Quote by zindryr :

勝って益なく負けたらすべてを失う
No reward for a win, but lose everything if you lose.


Nothing to gain, but everything to lose. (I know, I know)
Nothing to gain if you win, but everything to lose.
You gain nothing if you win, but lose everything if defeated.
There's nothing to gain if you win, but you'd lose everything if defeated.

Quote by zindryr :

代役を立てましょう
Let us use a replacement.


Let's use a replacement.

Quote by zindryr :

むっ、すごい熱
He's, got a high fever.


He's got a high fever.

Quote by zindryr :

奴が出籠手の形で合わせた
And so he thought the forearm was good.1


(Miike thought his forearm was strong/sturdy?)
He thought his forearm was strong.
He thought his forearm would hold.

Quote by zindryr :

その剣は腕で止まらずに
And his sword continued on...


But his sword continued on...

Quote by zindryr :

武蔵とその他大勢
It was Takezo and everyone else.


This sorta makes it sound that Takezo was with everyone, but in fact he was the only one apart, right?

Quote by zindryr :

いつまでもそんな感じでありたかった
I always wanted thing to be like that.


I always wanted things to be like that.

Quote by zindryr :

親に背いて、関ヶ原(いくさ)に出て
I disobeyed my parents, went to the battle of Sekigahara.


I went to the battle of Sekigahara against my parent's objections.
I disobeyed my parents and went off to the battle of Sekigahara.

Quote by zindryr :

今、目の前にいるのは
Like who's right here in front of me.


Like the one who's right here in front of me.

I think you skipped the buble on the left containing 4 kanji. (Right after 是非我が道場に来ていただき、その剣術を御教授願いたい)
#2. by zindryr (誰も知らない)
Posted on Aug 2, 2006
Quote by devinlane :
Let's use a replacement.
I am trying to preserve the fact that they are in the past, so using "let us" instead of "let's" helps that along.

Quote by devinlane :

(Miike thought his forearm was strong/sturdy?)
He thought his forearm was strong.
He thought his forearm would hold.

We actually need another translator to help out with the line since I'm not entirely sure. Also, the subject of the sentence is Kojiro.



Quote by devinlane :
This sorta makes it sound that Takezo was with everyone, but in fact he was the only one apart, right?
Yeah, how about: It was Takezo first, and then everyone else.

Quote by devinlane :
I think you skipped the buble on the left containing 4 kanji. (Right after 是非我が道場に来ていただき、その剣術を御教授願いたい)
So I did. It was "Sasaki...!!"

Added that in.
#3. by devinlane ()
Posted on Aug 3, 2006
Quote by zindryr :

Yeah, how about: It was Takezo first, and then everyone else.


Hmm... Not quite what I was thinking. The way I see it, there are two simultaneously existing groups, one containing Takezo and the other containing everyone else. Matahachi is lamenting that he isn't part of Takezo's group as he once thought himself to be.

#4. by zindryr (誰も知らない)
Posted on Aug 3, 2006
That's exactly the way I see it, I'm just trying to find a phrase small enough to fit in that spot that conveys that idea.
#5. by devinlane ()
Posted on Aug 3, 2006
Yeah... I wasn't able to come up with anything either. I'll give it some more thought.
#6. by Siedhr ()
Posted on Aug 15, 2006
Quote:
勝って益なく負けたらすべてを失う
You gain nothing if you win, but lose everything if defeated.

"If you win, you'll gain nothing, but if you're defeted, you'll lose everything." I think it flows better.

Quote:
当主がそんな相手と闘ってはいけない
A family head must not fight someone like that.

Maybe: It's demeaning for a family head to fight someone of such low status. Or: As a family head, you musn't demean yourself by fighting someone like that.

Quote:
代役を立てましょう
Let us use a replacement.

How about: We should use a replacement. Or: Allow us to use a replacement.

Quote:
俺は損得勘定は出来ぬ
I can't look at this like a mercenary.

How about simply: I'm not a mercenary. Or: I won't treat this as a mercenary.

Quote:
俺がして欲しいことの逆をやっている
You keep doing the opposite of what I want you to.

You keep doing the opposite of what I want you to do.

Quote:
その様な考えで当主が務まると
You won't function as a family head thinking like that...

You won't survive as a family head thinking like that... Or: You won't be a good family head thinking like that...

Quote:
いかがなされましたか!?
What is wrong!?

What's wrong!?

Quote:
奴が出籠手の形で合わせた
And so he thought the forearm was good.1

This doesn't sound right.

Quote:
その剣は腕で止まらずに
And his sword continued on...

And his sword went on...

Quote:
御池殿の腹を斜めに裂いた
Splitting Miike's stomach open crosswise.

Cutting open Miike's belly crosswise. - stomach is an internal organ, belly is the word that fits here.

Quote:
話は出来んぞ
He can't talk.

This is an interesting line, as in it doesn't make much sense to me. The main problem with Kojiro here is the fact that he can't hear.

Quote:
少しずつ俺はお前の考えていることがわからなくなっていき・・・
I started to know less and less of what you were thinking...

I knew less and less about what you were thinking.

Quote:
俺はその他大勢の一人に埋もれてゆき
And I was buried within everyone else.

And I was buried with these "everyone else".

Quote:
条件があるなら言ってください!!出来るだけのことはします!
If you have conditions please tell us!! We'll do anything we can!

If you have any demands, please tell us!!

Quote:
一緒に
Come with us to.

Come with us to...

Quote:
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やってられるか・・・
Yeah right...

Yeah, right...

Quote:
話も出来ん者を見方につけるなんて
Trying to make an ally of someone who can't speak.

Again with the speaking...
#7. by zindryr (誰も知らない)
Posted on Aug 17, 2006
Quote by Siedhr :

"If you win, you'll gain nothing, but if you're defeted, you'll lose everything." I think it flows better.


I took out the commas: "If you win you'll gain nothing, but if you're defeated you'll lose everything."

Too many commas really break a sentence.

Quote by Siedhr :
Maybe: It's demeaning for a family head to fight someone of such low status. Or: As a family head, you musn't demean yourself by fighting someone like that.
The Japanese doesn't say anything about it being demeaning. It just says that he must not fight an opponent like that (Musashi).

Quote by Siedhr :
How about: We should use a replacement. Or: Allow us to use a replacement.

I don't see what's wrong with saying "Let us", it feels a bit more like older English.

Quote by Siedhr :
How about simply: I'm not a mercenary. Or: I won't treat this as a mercenary.

How about: "I am no mercenary."

Quote by Siedhr :
What's wrong!?

You know, that apostrophe s came from somewhere, and in older forms of English people did say the full thing. Does: "What is the matter?" sound better then?

Quote by Siedhr :
This doesn't sound right.

That's because it isn't. Recent research and a bit of help from NJT reveals that it should be something like this: "He met the attack with a Degote."

A Degote being a move used as a preemptive strike. So, if we really wanted to we could say "He met the attack with a preemptive strike.", though it's really a specific kind called a degote.

This is an interesting line, as in it doesn't make much sense to me. The main problem with Kojiro here is the fact that he can't hear.

If he can't hear, he can't converse with other people. As such he can't talk. That's what he is saying. He can't have a conversation, literally, but that doesn't sound all that great to me.


Quote by Siedhr :
I knew less and less about what you were thinking.

I don't like how I worded the line, how about: "I understood you less and less as time went on." or "I understood you less and less as time passed."

Quote by Siedhr :
And I was buried with these "everyone else".

Er, doesn't make sense. How about:

武蔵とその他大勢
It was Takezo against the world.

俺はその他大勢の一人に埋もれてゆき
And I became a bystander like the rest of the world.


Quote by Siedhr :
Again with the speaking...

That's what the Japanese says, live with it woman! Heh.


Anyway. On to the next chapter.
#8. by Siedhr ()
Posted on Aug 18, 2006
Quote:
I took out the commas: "If you win you'll gain nothing, but if you're defeated you'll lose everything."

Too many commas really break a sentence.

Ok.

Quote:
The Japanese doesn't say anything about it being demeaning. It just says that he must not fight an opponent like that (Musashi).
Ok, I see. Then your original version stays.

Quote:
I don't see what's wrong with saying "Let us", it feels a bit more like older English.
There's nothing wrong with Let us, I just felt that Allow us sounded better. Keep the old version if you think it fits the text best.

Quote:
How about: "I am no mercenary."
"thumbs up"

Quote:
You know, that apostrophe s came from somewhere, and in older forms of English people did say the full thing. Does: "What is the matter?" sound better then?
Yes, I know where the 's comes from. I thought it flowed better contracted in this particular instance. And "What is the matter?" sounds better.

Quote:

That's because it isn't. Recent research and a bit of help from NJT reveals that it should be something like this: "He met the attack with a Degote."

A Degote being a move used as a preemptive strike. So, if we really wanted to we could say "He met the attack with a preemptive strike.", though it's really a specific kind called a degote.

We could use Degote and make a note of what it means on the side. I think that would work best. I'll look it over in wiki.

Quote:
If he can't hear, he can't converse with other people. As such he can't talk. That's what he is saying. He can't have a conversation, literally, but that doesn't sound all that great to me.
Oh, I get it. Then how about "communicate" instead of talk? Converse does sound bad and talk doesn't truly fit here.

Quote:
I don't like how I worded the line, how about: "I understood you less and less as time went on." or "I understood you less and less as time passed."
How about: "I understood you less and less as time went by."

Quote:
武蔵とその他大勢
It was Takezo against the world.

俺はその他大勢の一人に埋もれてゆき
And I became a bystander like the rest of the world.

And I became a bystander, the same as rest of the world. How about this version?
Quote:

Again with the speaking...

That's what the Japanese says, live with it woman! Heh.

How about you use communicate, then?



#9. by zindryr (誰も知らない)
Posted on Aug 18, 2006
Communicate it is for all of those, and used 'allow... to' instead of 'let'. I suppose this script is done, take a last read through and make sure everything's correct.
#10. by Siedhr ()
Posted on Aug 18, 2006
Quote:
ボー
2

This was left untranslated.

Could you please add this note for Degote. "Degote: A move used in Kendo as a preemptive strike" or something better from your resource. I can't seem to be able to find anything useful about Degote in English resources.
#11. by zindryr (誰も知らない)
Posted on Aug 18, 2006
I personally don't think it need to be translated, and I don't really know of any equivalent English sounds. Adding the note.
#12. by Siedhr ()
Posted on Aug 18, 2006
Quote:
I personally don't think it need to be translated, and I don't really know of any equivalent English sounds. Adding the note.
Well, then all is well.

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